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From: Jeremiah H. <jjh...@gm...> - 2014-09-15 13:58:35
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The two things that need to be looked at and replace m68k platform code and either rewrite or move into the powerpc kernel are the drivers for the ADB controller and the graphics files are in dirvers/macintosh/via-macii.c for the ADB and drivers/video/macfb.c. My C skills are pretty elementary but from my basic understanding getting this going we will basically have to make the drivers understand the PPC IRQ setup. Of the two I think the ADB will less work since ADB already exists on the PowerPC side should take too much add the MacII support. I know nothing about graphics drivers but the ValkryieFB exists on both m68k and PowerPC aswell maybe there is some clues there. We could at least get around no onboard video since the kernel seems to already support nubus cards. I was planning on picking up a HPV card anyhow, that way I can see if the kernel is actually booting after bootx kicks off the process. |
From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2014-09-15 12:37:23
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Hello I too have a Quadra 700 with PowerPC upgrade card and a vague interest in Linux, some very rough C, and the occasional spare moment. Anything useful I might contribute? Cheers, On 2014-09-05, 3:43 AM, Jeremiah Holt wrote: > I know this is a lonnnng shot seeing as there hasn't been any postings > in over a year. I am attempting to port the kernel to work on my > Quadra 700 which has a PowerPC 601@50MHz upgrade card. Fortunately it > seems the scsi is supported natively. And by looking at the > differences between the 2.6.17 and 2.6.34 kernels in the git tree I > was able to get the sonic driver to build. The problem I am having is > trying to port the MacII adb drivers to build. Any help would be great > thanks > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Slashdot TV. > Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. > http://tv.slashdot.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users -- Mac of the Day: Power Mac G4 Sawtooth <http://apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=g4agp> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 ACTC 10.7 |
From: Jeremiah H. <jjh...@gm...> - 2014-09-04 17:44:01
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I know this is a lonnnng shot seeing as there hasn't been any postings in over a year. I am attempting to port the kernel to work on my Quadra 700 which has a PowerPC 601@50MHz upgrade card. Fortunately it seems the scsi is supported natively. And by looking at the differences between the 2.6.17 and 2.6.34 kernels in the git tree I was able to get the sonic driver to build. The problem I am having is trying to port the MacII adb drivers to build. Any help would be great thanks |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2013-08-04 13:17:23
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Well, Ben, on a new day with a fresh install of Debian Sarge, the sources I listed first work just fine. I looked at the Debian page you linked. It's from March of 2012 and they say they will be expiring the packages for the older releases eventually. Hopefully, Sarge will still be covered until my PowerBook 1400 croaks. Thanks for the response. Tom On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Ben <ma...@fr...> wrote: > Hello, > > Those /look/ right to me. I can browse ok, and there is a ppc contents gzip. > > The page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive > says that Sarge is still in the archive, indeed woody and potato are there too. > > What is the error you are getting? > > Cheers > > On 13-08-03 11:20 PM, Thomas Carlson wrote: >> If anyone is still out there, what are the current apt sources for Debian Sarge? The ones I had been using: >> >> deb >> http://archive.debian.org/debian/ >> sarge main contrib non-free >> deb-src >> http://archive.debian.org/debian/ >> sarge main contrib non-free >> >> no longer work. Neither do: >> >> deb >> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ >> sarge main contrib non-free >> deb-src >> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ >> sarge main contrib non-free >> >> Are we at the end of the line here with Debian Sarge? >> >> Tom >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get your SQL database under version control now! >> Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent >> caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under >> version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > -- > Mac of the Day: > > iMac G4 17" 800MHz > > ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your SQL database under version control now! > Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent > caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under > version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk_______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2013-08-03 23:59:21
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Hello, Those /look/ right to me. I can browse ok, and there is a ppc contents gzip. The page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive says that Sarge is still in the archive, indeed woody and potato are there too. What is the error you are getting? Cheers On 13-08-03 11:20 PM, Thomas Carlson wrote: > If anyone is still out there, what are the current apt sources for Debian Sarge? The ones I had been using: > > deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > > no longer work. Neither do: > > deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ sarge main contrib non-free > deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ sarge main contrib non-free > > Are we at the end of the line here with Debian Sarge? > > Tom > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your SQL database under version control now! > Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent > caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under > version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users -- Mac of the Day: iMac G4 17" 800MHz <http://lowendmac.com/imacs/17in-imac-g4-800-mhz.html> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2013-08-03 13:33:08
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If anyone is still out there, what are the current apt sources for Debian Sarge? The ones I had been using: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free no longer work. Neither do: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ sarge main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/dist/ sarge main contrib non-free Are we at the end of the line here with Debian Sarge? Tom |
From: Francis H. <fra...@ya...> - 2012-05-24 17:58:40
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Thomas, you say the Powerbooks will never be much good for web surfing - as I mentioned, Dillo 3 actually runs pretty well on my (non-G3ed) one, certainly well enough to read/post on forums or read techblogs (which is all I do on the Internet, to be honest). I also compiled OpenTTD for it, which turned out to be useable but a bit too laggy for actual gaming. I'd recommend at least trying a GUI on it, the usability certainly exceeded my expectations. Francis On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:57:13 +0100, Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: > I'm happy to hear that there are still people out there who are involved > with this project. I sympathize with those who want to push it forward > but are hampered by old kit. You can still get good deals at eBay on > functioning PowerBook 1400s. I have numerous parts machines that I use > to service my mostly functioning 1400 with a G3 processor and maxed out > RAM. Still, with 1mb of video ram, this machine is never going to be > much of a web surfer. Probably the 2.4 kernel is just fine for what > it's best able to do: run a basic installation (no GUI) of Debian. It's > a good machine to learn how to use the Linux command line on and I hope > to be more knowledgeable about that some day. > > Cheers, and thanks for all the responses. > > Tom > > On May 23, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Francis Herne wrote: > >> Tobias, >> Thanks for the quick response, and for working on the thing at all. I'll >> just keep using the 2.4 kernel until the laptop quits working then. The >> power supply is annoying - currently my 1400 is powered by bits of two >> broken power supplies soldered together! The clock battery is playing up >> now, though - does anyone on here know what voltage it's meant to be? At >> the moment, it keeps resetting to 1904, which is rather inconvenient. >> >> P.S.: Anyone with experience of using Linux on m68k? I got my PB190 >> working again, is there a useable kernel for it? >> >> Francis >> >> On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:18:52 +0100, Tobias Netzel >> <int...@us...> wrote: >> <snip> >> <snip> <snip> >> <snip> <snip> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2012-05-24 14:24:07
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I'm happy to hear that there are still people out there who are involved with this project. I sympathize with those who want to push it forward but are hampered by old kit. You can still get good deals at eBay on functioning PowerBook 1400s. I have numerous parts machines that I use to service my mostly functioning 1400 with a G3 processor and maxed out RAM. Still, with 1mb of video ram, this machine is never going to be much of a web surfer. Probably the 2.4 kernel is just fine for what it's best able to do: run a basic installation (no GUI) of Debian. It's a good machine to learn how to use the Linux command line on and I hope to be more knowledgeable about that some day. Cheers, and thanks for all the responses. Tom On May 23, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Francis Herne wrote: > Tobias, > Thanks for the quick response, and for working on the thing at all. I'll > just keep using the 2.4 kernel until the laptop quits working then. The > power supply is annoying - currently my 1400 is powered by bits of two > broken power supplies soldered together! The clock battery is playing up > now, though - does anyone on here know what voltage it's meant to be? At > the moment, it keeps resetting to 1904, which is rather inconvenient. > > P.S.: Anyone with experience of using Linux on m68k? I got my PB190 > working again, is there a useable kernel for it? > > Francis > > On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:18:52 +0100, Tobias Netzel > <int...@us...> wrote: > >> I never finished work on the 2.6 kernel. On my PB 1400 it works but >> there are still sudden shutdowns. It seems that my Implementation of >> the interrupt handling is very dependent on CPU speed as it seems to >> work only with a G3 upgrade installed. >> Since I don't have any working power supply for the 1400 I cannot do >> any further work on the kernel. >> >> Tobias >> >>> I remain a user of this project, although I'm too stupid to contribute >>> anything useful... I'm using Etch on a 1400, and X11 with Openbox, >>> Sylpheed and Dillo is entirely useable fo light email/web browsing >>> (mine's >>> a 64MB, 166MHz model). >>> >>> I have some problems, too - there are nticeable 'lines' continuing >>> beyond >>> the corners of windows across the desktop. Is this standard for the >>> hardware/drivers, or is it an indicator of misconfiguration and/or >>> damaged >>> hardware? Also, the (unstable) 2.6 kernel doesn't boot - I'm sure I >>> saw a >>> mention of it working on a 1400 at some point, could someone explain >>> how >>> to get it working? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Francis >>> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:04 +0100, Thomas Carlson >>> <tca...@sh...> wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> <snip> > <snip> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2012-05-23 16:35:14
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See here: http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org > Tobias, > Thanks for the quick response, and for working on the thing at all. > I'll > just keep using the 2.4 kernel until the laptop quits working then. > The > power supply is annoying - currently my 1400 is powered by bits of two > broken power supplies soldered together! The clock battery is > playing up > now, though - does anyone on here know what voltage it's meant to > be? At > the moment, it keeps resetting to 1904, which is rather inconvenient. > > P.S.: Anyone with experience of using Linux on m68k? I got my PB190 > working again, is there a useable kernel for it? > > Francis > > On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:18:52 +0100, Tobias Netzel > <int...@us...> wrote: > >> I never finished work on the 2.6 kernel. On my PB 1400 it works but >> there are still sudden shutdowns. It seems that my Implementation of >> the interrupt handling is very dependent on CPU speed as it seems to >> work only with a G3 upgrade installed. >> Since I don't have any working power supply for the 1400 I cannot do >> any further work on the kernel. >> >> Tobias >> >>> I remain a user of this project, although I'm too stupid to >>> contribute >>> anything useful... I'm using Etch on a 1400, and X11 with Openbox, >>> Sylpheed and Dillo is entirely useable fo light email/web browsing >>> (mine's >>> a 64MB, 166MHz model). >>> >>> I have some problems, too - there are nticeable 'lines' continuing >>> beyond >>> the corners of windows across the desktop. Is this standard for the >>> hardware/drivers, or is it an indicator of misconfiguration and/or >>> damaged >>> hardware? Also, the (unstable) 2.6 kernel doesn't boot - I'm sure I >>> saw a >>> mention of it working on a 1400 at some point, could someone explain >>> how >>> to get it working? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Francis >>> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:04 +0100, Thomas Carlson >>> <tca...@sh...> wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> <snip> > <snip> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Francis H. <fra...@ya...> - 2012-05-23 10:17:27
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Tobias, Thanks for the quick response, and for working on the thing at all. I'll just keep using the 2.4 kernel until the laptop quits working then. The power supply is annoying - currently my 1400 is powered by bits of two broken power supplies soldered together! The clock battery is playing up now, though - does anyone on here know what voltage it's meant to be? At the moment, it keeps resetting to 1904, which is rather inconvenient. P.S.: Anyone with experience of using Linux on m68k? I got my PB190 working again, is there a useable kernel for it? Francis On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:18:52 +0100, Tobias Netzel <int...@us...> wrote: > I never finished work on the 2.6 kernel. On my PB 1400 it works but > there are still sudden shutdowns. It seems that my Implementation of > the interrupt handling is very dependent on CPU speed as it seems to > work only with a G3 upgrade installed. > Since I don't have any working power supply for the 1400 I cannot do > any further work on the kernel. > > Tobias > >> I remain a user of this project, although I'm too stupid to contribute >> anything useful... I'm using Etch on a 1400, and X11 with Openbox, >> Sylpheed and Dillo is entirely useable fo light email/web browsing >> (mine's >> a 64MB, 166MHz model). >> >> I have some problems, too - there are nticeable 'lines' continuing >> beyond >> the corners of windows across the desktop. Is this standard for the >> hardware/drivers, or is it an indicator of misconfiguration and/or >> damaged >> hardware? Also, the (unstable) 2.6 kernel doesn't boot - I'm sure I >> saw a >> mention of it working on a 1400 at some point, could someone explain >> how >> to get it working? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Francis >> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:04 +0100, Thomas Carlson >> <tca...@sh...> wrote: >> <snip> >> <snip> <snip> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2012-05-23 05:19:02
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I never finished work on the 2.6 kernel. On my PB 1400 it works but there are still sudden shutdowns. It seems that my Implementation of the interrupt handling is very dependent on CPU speed as it seems to work only with a G3 upgrade installed. Since I don't have any working power supply for the 1400 I cannot do any further work on the kernel. Tobias > I remain a user of this project, although I'm too stupid to contribute > anything useful... I'm using Etch on a 1400, and X11 with Openbox, > Sylpheed and Dillo is entirely useable fo light email/web browsing > (mine's > a 64MB, 166MHz model). > > I have some problems, too - there are nticeable 'lines' continuing > beyond > the corners of windows across the desktop. Is this standard for the > hardware/drivers, or is it an indicator of misconfiguration and/or > damaged > hardware? Also, the (unstable) 2.6 kernel doesn't boot - I'm sure I > saw a > mention of it working on a 1400 at some point, could someone explain > how > to get it working? > > Thanks, > > Francis > > On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:04 +0100, Thomas Carlson > <tca...@sh...> wrote: > >> I eventually figured out the apt sources by trial and error and have >> Debian Sarge installed on my old PowerBook 1400. It doesn't really >> have >> the juice for a GUI so I spend a little time each day learning >> about the >> Linux command line from the Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible. >> >> I'm curious as to how many folks are still involved with this project >> and whether or not there will ever be an attempt to develop a >> kernel for >> a newer version of Debian. >> >> Thanks so much for the response. >> >> Tom >> >> On May 22, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Hisanobu Tomari wrote: >> >>> Tom, >>> >>> Sorry for an old reply. Are you still there? >>> The old Debian repositories are moved to the archive server. >>> Try: >>> >>> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free >>> deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non- >>> free >>> >>> Hisanobu Tomari >>> >>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:12:56 -0600 >>> Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Francis H. <fra...@ya...> - 2012-05-22 18:01:31
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I remain a user of this project, although I'm too stupid to contribute anything useful... I'm using Etch on a 1400, and X11 with Openbox, Sylpheed and Dillo is entirely useable fo light email/web browsing (mine's a 64MB, 166MHz model). I have some problems, too - there are nticeable 'lines' continuing beyond the corners of windows across the desktop. Is this standard for the hardware/drivers, or is it an indicator of misconfiguration and/or damaged hardware? Also, the (unstable) 2.6 kernel doesn't boot - I'm sure I saw a mention of it working on a 1400 at some point, could someone explain how to get it working? Thanks, Francis On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:04 +0100, Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: > I eventually figured out the apt sources by trial and error and have > Debian Sarge installed on my old PowerBook 1400. It doesn't really have > the juice for a GUI so I spend a little time each day learning about the > Linux command line from the Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible. > > I'm curious as to how many folks are still involved with this project > and whether or not there will ever be an attempt to develop a kernel for > a newer version of Debian. > > Thanks so much for the response. > > Tom > > On May 22, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Hisanobu Tomari wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Sorry for an old reply. Are you still there? >> The old Debian repositories are moved to the archive server. >> Try: >> >> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free >> deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free >> >> Hisanobu Tomari >> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:12:56 -0600 >> Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: >> <snip> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2012-05-22 12:01:45
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I eventually figured out the apt sources by trial and error and have Debian Sarge installed on my old PowerBook 1400. It doesn't really have the juice for a GUI so I spend a little time each day learning about the Linux command line from the Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible. I'm curious as to how many folks are still involved with this project and whether or not there will ever be an attempt to develop a kernel for a newer version of Debian. Thanks so much for the response. Tom On May 22, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Hisanobu Tomari wrote: > Tom, > > Sorry for an old reply. Are you still there? > The old Debian repositories are moved to the archive server. > Try: > > deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > > Hisanobu Tomari > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:12:56 -0600 > Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: > >> I have recently installed Debian Sarge on my PowerBook 1400 and want to update the apt sources to what is current. Can anyone out there put me onto what exactly are the correct sources? Thanks. >> >> Tom >> __ >> Thomas Carlson >> 2319 La Senda >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> 505-603-5526 >> http://www.ifixoldmacs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Hisanobu T. <dav...@us...> - 2012-05-22 06:40:08
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Tom, Sorry for an old reply. Are you still there? The old Debian repositories are moved to the archive server. Try: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free Hisanobu Tomari On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:12:56 -0600 Thomas Carlson <tca...@sh...> wrote: > I have recently installed Debian Sarge on my PowerBook 1400 and want to update the apt sources to what is current. Can anyone out there put me onto what exactly are the correct sources? Thanks. > > Tom > __ > Thomas Carlson > 2319 La Senda > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505-603-5526 > http://www.ifixoldmacs.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2012-04-27 14:39:48
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I have recently installed Debian Sarge on my PowerBook 1400 and want to update the apt sources to what is current. Can anyone out there put me onto what exactly are the correct sources? Thanks. Tom __ Thomas Carlson 2319 La Senda Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-603-5526 http://www.ifixoldmacs.com |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-11 18:30:20
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Might be worth replacing the PRAM battery before you do anything major to get it going again. Tom On Apr 9, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Ben wrote: > Hello, > > Yes, it has 264, but the G4 is running slower (300?), since the system > clock is still only 33MHz. Last it was running with OS9, and was usable. > The thing with these old systems is finding the right thing for them to > do. I wouldn't expect Youtube on it, but it could do as basic webserver, > even a mail server with a decent sized hard drive. > > At the moment, I am having trouble getting it to boot from CD (Mac OS or > Linux) after taking it out storage. Probably needs some TLC. > > I might try a Newertech card if I see one come up again on fleabay. > > Cheers > > On 11-04-09 1:20 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it >> working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the >> web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with >> the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent >> application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. >> >>> Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech >>> upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my >>> old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. >>> >>> One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With >>> its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or >>> even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian >>> Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. >>> What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing >>> about my old PowerBook 1400. >>> >>> Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", >>> also, as you can see from my blog below. >>> >>> Cheers, Tom >>> >>> P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? >>> >>> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- >>> Years-of-Linux >>> __ >>> Thomas Carlson >>> 2319 La Senda >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> 505-603-5526 >>> http://www.ifixoldmacs.com >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>> >>>> Well that's new to me! >>>> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >>>> reported that it didn't work. >>>> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >>>> well?! >>>> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >>>> >>>> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >>>> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >>>> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >>>> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >>>> parameter on the kernel command line. >>>> >>>> Tobias >>>> >>>>> Tobias: >>>>> >>>>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>>>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>>>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>>>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>>>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>>>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> here's a link that explains it: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>> >>>>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>>>> switch >>>>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Tobias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>>>> Power >>>>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>>>> x64, >>>>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>>>> Crescendo >>>>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --------- >>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> -------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > -- > > Mac of the day: Power Mac G4 'Sawtooth' > ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2011-04-10 03:07:01
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Hello, Yes, it has 264, but the G4 is running slower (300?), since the system clock is still only 33MHz. Last it was running with OS9, and was usable. The thing with these old systems is finding the right thing for them to do. I wouldn't expect Youtube on it, but it could do as basic webserver, even a mail server with a decent sized hard drive. At the moment, I am having trouble getting it to boot from CD (Mac OS or Linux) after taking it out storage. Probably needs some TLC. I might try a Newertech card if I see one come up again on fleabay. Cheers On 11-04-09 1:20 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it > working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the > web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with > the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent > application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. > >> Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech >> upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my >> old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. >> >> One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With >> its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or >> even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian >> Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. >> What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing >> about my old PowerBook 1400. >> >> Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", >> also, as you can see from my blog below. >> >> Cheers, Tom >> >> P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? >> >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- >> Years-of-Linux >> __ >> Thomas Carlson >> 2319 La Senda >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> 505-603-5526 >> http://www.ifixoldmacs.com >> >> On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> >>> Well that's new to me! >>> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >>> reported that it didn't work. >>> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >>> well?! >>> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >>> >>> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >>> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >>> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >>> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >>> parameter on the kernel command line. >>> >>> Tobias >>> >>>> Tobias: >>>> >>>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>>> >>>> here's a link that explains it: >>>> >>>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>> >>>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>>> switch >>>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Tobias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>>> Power >>>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>>> x64, >>>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>>> Crescendo >>>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> --------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users -- Mac of the day: Power Mac G4 'Sawtooth' ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-08 15:20:10
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Well, I'm sure that with a G4/400 and 264 MB RAM (if you can get it working reliably) it still can be of some use even for surfing the web (I use a PowerBook Wallstreet G4/500 with 512 MB RAM). But with the original 601 CPU I don't think it could be of use for any recent application. Even less if you are limited to 72 MB RAM. > Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech > upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my > old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. > > One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With > its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or > even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian > Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. > What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing > about my old PowerBook 1400. > > Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", > also, as you can see from my blog below. > > Cheers, Tom > > P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20- > Years-of-Linux > __ > Thomas Carlson > 2319 La Senda > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505-603-5526 > http://www.ifixoldmacs.com > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > >> Well that's new to me! >> Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users >> reported that it didn't work. >> Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as >> well?! >> But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. >> >> Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the >> PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before >> entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't >> switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR >> parameter on the kernel command line. >> >> Tobias >> >>> Tobias: >>> >>> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >>> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >>> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >>> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >>> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >>> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >>> >>> here's a link that explains it: >>> >>> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> >>>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a >>>> switch >>>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Tobias >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>>> Power >>>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>>> x64, >>>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>>> >>>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>>> Crescendo >>>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> -------- >>>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>>> And it wants your games. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>>> Nub...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> --------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> -------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-08 14:04:28
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Yes, Tobias, the MkLinux booter fix only worked with NewerTech upgrades. All this talk about the PM 6100 makes me want to dig my old machine out of the shed to see if it still boots up. One has to wonder, though, along with Ben, "should I bother?" With its 2MB of VRAM, the PM 6100 is not going to be surfing the web or even running X Windows comfortably. Even if I could get Debian Sarge running on it, support for that version ended years ago. What would I actually DO with it? I'm thinking the same thing about my old PowerBook 1400. Ben, I have a "penchant for vintage and alternative computing", also, as you can see from my blog below. Cheers, Tom P.S. Did you light a birthday candle for Linux yesterday? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/187253/Celebrating-20-Years-of-Linux __ Thomas Carlson 2319 La Senda Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-603-5526 http://www.ifixoldmacs.com On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Well that's new to me! > Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users > reported that it didn't work. > Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as well?! > But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. > > Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the > PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before > entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't > switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR > parameter on the kernel command line. > > Tobias > >> Tobias: >> >> I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac >> 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to >> modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's >> extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", >> much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my >> PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. >> >> here's a link that explains it: >> >> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html >> >> Tom >> >> On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> >>> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >>> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch >>> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >>> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tobias >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>>> Power >>>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>>> x64, >>>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>>> >>>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>>> Crescendo >>>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -------- >>>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>>> And it wants your games. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-07 21:34:47
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Well that's new to me! Seems to work only on NewerTech upgrades; all the Sonnet users reported that it didn't work. Perhaps one could use the NewerTech extension for the Sonnet as well?! But with the Sonnet extension it seems to be pretty much impossible. Regarding all upgrades that replace the original CPU like in the PowerBooks: loading extensions like the one from Sonnet before entering the kernel shouldn't be necessary and the kernel wouldn't switch on the L2 cache either unless you give it the correct L2CR parameter on the kernel command line. Tobias > Tobias: > > I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac > 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to > modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's > extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", > much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my > PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. > > here's a link that explains it: > > http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html > > Tom > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the >> Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch >> back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one >> figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. >> >> Cheers, >> Tobias >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >>> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >>> Power >>> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and >>> x64, >>> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >>> >>> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet >>> Crescendo >>> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >>> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> -------- >>> Xperia(TM) PLAY >>> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >>> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >>> And it wants your games. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>> Nub...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2011-04-07 20:02:55
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Tobias: I vaguely remember installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.4 on my PowerMac 6100 with a NewerTech G3 upgrade back in 2003 or so. I had to modify the MkLinux booter so that it loaded AFTER the MaxPower's extension was loaded, using Resedit to change the type to "scri", much like what I have had to do to get Debian Sarge running on my PowerBook 1400 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade. here's a link that explains it: http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/375.html Tom On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Hi Ben, > > unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the > Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch > back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one > figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. > > Cheers, > Tobias > > >> Hello, >> >> I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and >> alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a >> Power >> Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, >> and exposure to RHEL/Centos. >> >> I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo >> G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> >> Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 >> ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >> Xperia(TM) PLAY >> It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming >> smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. >> And it wants your games. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev >> _______________________________________________ >> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >> Nub...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users > |
From: Tobias N. <int...@us...> - 2011-04-07 17:05:48
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Hi Ben, unfortunately PDS slot based CPU upgrades arent't supported in the Linux kernel. All methods of entering the Linux kernel imply a switch back to the original 601 CPU on those Macs and until now no one figured out how to make the kernel use a PDS CPU upgrade. Cheers, Tobias > Hello, > > I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and > alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a > Power > Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, > and exposure to RHEL/Centos. > > I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo > G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? > > Cheers > > -- > > Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 > ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Xperia(TM) PLAY > It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming > smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. > And it wants your games. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev > _______________________________________________ > Nubus-pmac-users mailing list > Nub...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users |
From: Ben <ma...@fr...> - 2011-04-07 09:32:14
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Hello, I'm an IT Man in Sydney, Australia with a penchant for vintage and alternative computing. I've previously had Yellow Dog running on a Power Macintosh 6100 (and a Beige G3), and Debian on 68k, PPC, x86 and x64, and exposure to RHEL/Centos. I'm now planning on installing Debian on a 6100 with Sonnet Crescendo G4. And I come here to ask: Should I bother? Cheers -- Mac of the day: Power Macintosh 6100 ACTC 10.4 ACSA 10.5 ACSA 10.6 |
From: Norayr C. <ch...@gm...> - 2010-08-10 21:58:34
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I also want to report that kernel 28NOV.2006 works pretty well. At least, I was able to download 2.6.31 kernel with dial-up via serial port :) Sincerely, Norayr |
From: Norayr C. <ch...@gm...> - 2010-08-10 21:53:55
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Hey. I found a cisco aironet 350 card and latest NOV28.2006 miboot image recoginzed it. I successfully connected powerbook 5300cs to the wifi router with iwconfig/dhclient. However, aironet card has errors on the interface (eth0) It was possible to connect via ssh to local network computers, do wget of my provider's homepage, but not google, or some other pages. Resolving works, wget, telnet to 80 port - not. I wonder whether there is a necessary firmware installation? Anyway, I decided to try newer kernel, 2.6.31, and it didnt boot: Generic RTC Driver v1.07 Generic non-volatile memory driver v1.1 pmac_zilog: 0.6 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt <be...@ke...>) Vector" 300 (Data Access) at [c3821e30]a Z85c30 ESCC - Serial port pc: c002cb8c: hwreg_present+0xbc/0xe4 lr: c002cb10: hwreg_present+0x40/0xe4 sp: c3821ee0 msr: 1032 dar: 4 dsisr: 20000000 current = 0xc381c000 pid = 1, comm = swapper enter ? for help [c3821ee0] fffff000 (unreliable) [c3821f00] c0586884 mac89x0_probe+0x1b8/0x3d4 [c3821f60] c0586248 probe_list2+0x4c/0xa0 [c3821f80] c0586318 net_olddevs_init+0x7c/0x11c [c3821b0] c0003efc do_one_initcall+0x54/0x218 [c3821fe0] c055e1d8 kernel_init+0xb8/0x12c [c3821ff0] c0014670 kernel_threa0x4c/0x68 mon> (here are blinking marker) pcnet32.c:v1.35 21.Apr.2008 tsb...@al... Unable to handle kernel paging request for data at address 0x00000004 Faulting instruction address: 0xc002cb8c Sincerely, Norayr |