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Bob posted a comment on discussion General Discussion
Yeah, the only thing I remember about neutrons was when I worked at the nuclear power plant they always had a neutron detector in reactor containment, and it would be occasionally make a beeping sound as it detected free neutrons and during our training, they said if it started beeping very fast you would need exit the containment stuucture. Bob
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they’re kind of pricey I actually know the guy that’s selling this on eBay. He reconditions instruments so you can rest assured if you buy something from him and there’s an issue he will make it right. Bob https://ebay.us/m/6l1BS3
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LOL! The LND 7314 is the Pancake GM tube used in the GMC 600+ and the RadEye B20. The window is a thin film of Mica which allows Alpha,Beta and of course ganmma to be detected. Bob
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This is what you see when you look through one this is the lower range one and the 5 cGy mark would be the nuclear worker yearly limit here in the USA of 5,000mR! Sorry for the blurry photo it is difficult using a phone to get a clear image. Bob
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Correct they are SRD's AKA Self Reading electrostatic Dosimeters. The charger resets them to zero they will self discharge and requie a reset before use. These are much higher range than what I was issued at the nuclear power plant that I started my career at back in 1983.,those were 0-500 mR much much lower range. These are just simple devcesto check your dose when you are under nuclear attack hence the higher ranges. The kit comes with two sets a high range and higher range LOL! Just something...
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Just recieved this dosimeter set from Germany! It's like in brand new condition and German quality throughout! Bob
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Thanks Ullix. I had to switch to MAC for two reasons one my Desktop machine was very slow with GL and the version of Windows 11 on my MacBookPro and the desktop says the version's are no longer supported. Neither machine has a TPM 2.0 I had to create a custon ISO to install on both machines and at this point I do not know if this method is still an option for installing the newer versions. I use my MAC like 99% of the time so I am good where I am with this. Thanks again for creating GeigerLog and...
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Thanks, Ullix. I trimmed off the parts by changing the date and time Min/Max in GeigerLog and got the following attached. Is there another way to trim the data? Also see the image with the Buttons POKE fields they appear squashed especially the two in the graph field to the right of the "Clear" button can this be adjusted? Bob
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I am sure it is just me just being old and inpatient :>) Bob
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Not sure but I think it may be a tad slower after the file swap? Bob
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Here is a short video of the operation of the GUI. Make sure you set the video qualityn in YouTube to at least 720 so as not to be blurry. Bob https://youtu.be/catzvzmz7vo
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Thanks Ullix, here is the GUI after the file swap and the data I ran on the beach sand. I still even after reading the manual do not quite understand how to clean up the data very well apologize for this. Bob
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Here a block diagram of the unit. Bob
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Close up of the Data Out it is a 8 Pin DIN connector. Bob
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Hi Ullix just a heads up. I aquired a somewhat vintage 2.5cm Nal scintillator an Aloka TCS-161 while we were in Japan. I requested manuals and information from the manufacturer just received the manual. I need to translate it from Japanese to English. The schematics I was told are propitory so I won’t be getting them anytime soon. Once I get the manual, translated and if it gives me any insight as to the data out. I would like to see if it can be used with GeigerLog. Bob
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This is a RadiaCode 103G scan of the same beach sand, you can see the Ra-226 present in the sand. Many of the personal home wells have the same in Sarasota County Florida. All part of the areas geology. Bob
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I am running data collection on a bag of beach sand from Casperson beach Florida every time I enter this beach my RadiaCode alarm goes off. It’s because of uranium 238 in the sand and part of decay product is Ra-226. The beach is famous for collecting fossilized sharks teeth, which most of are also radioactive. Bob
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Ullix, Here is the information on my MacBookPro that I am running GeigerLog on it may be helpful for others that may want to run it on a MAC as well. My MBP is one of the last Intel Chip ones that they made around 2020. Bob
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I'm connected! Bob
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Yay I can now play! You are a genius! Thank you for your ever present help! I will let you know how it goes from here at least I now have a GeigerLog GUI! Bob
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OK that is much better getting there. Bob Last login: Tue Feb 11 13:43:43 on ttys000 bobyouh@MacBookPro geigerlog-v1.6.0pre25 % ./GeigerLog.sh setup GeigerLog Startup -------------------- in SETUP mode --------------------------- startup: Command Line: ['geigerlog.py', 'setup'] startup: System Python: Python 3.13.2 startup: Virtual Environment: Expected venv directory '__venv1.6.0pre25' was NOT found startup: HELP INFO: Python Versions supporting GeigerLog: python3.13, python3.12, python3.11, python3.10...
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I came across that as well but I did download and install the version from Python.org. I sent the "whereis python3.13" command and the below was the result. Also according to Python documentation a user can set up aliass for the Pythom run command as well. Last login: Mon Feb 10 18:58:35 on ttys000 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ % whereis python3.13 python3.13: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.13/bin/python3.13 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.13/share/man/man1/python3.13.1 bobyouh@MacBookPro...
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When I type the command to setup GeigerLog "./GeigerLog.sh setup" I get the below message. "GeigerLog Startup -------------------- in SETUP mode --------------------------- startup: Command Line: ['geigerlog.py', 'setup'] startup: System Python: Python 3.13.2 startup: Virtual Environment: Expected venv directory '__venv1.6.0pre25' was NOT found startup: HELP INFO: Python Versions supporting GeigerLog: python3.13, python3.12, python3.11, python3.10 startup: Mac startup: Virtual Environment: Configuring...
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I updated using a file in the Python folder "Update Shell Profile.command" and now when I issue the "python3 -V" command it yields the following below. Last login: Mon Feb 10 17:22:01 on ttys001 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ % python3 -V Python 3.13.2 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ %
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Now, when I installed geigerlog, I simply copied the directory after I unzipped it into my applications folder. Was that the right thing to do? Bob
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Those commands do not seem to work but python3 is how it is brought up see below using the commands in terminal, "which python3" and "python3 --version" Bob Last login: Mon Feb 10 17:00:37 on ttys000 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ % which python3 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.13/bin/python3 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ % python3 --version Python 3.13.2 bobyouh@MacBookPro ~ %
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I think this may be the issue I can not seem to configure the virtual enviornment I type the start command in the message and it instructs about the virtual enviornment?? "startup: Mac startup: Virtual Environment: Configuring venv as '__venv1.6.0pre25' using Python 'python' startup: Virtual Environment: Creating by cmd: python -m venv --system-site-packages __venv1.6.0pre25" At least I am in the GeigerLog directory LOL! Bob
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My Python version is 3.13 see screenshot. Bob
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After typing the start command from the message in red above "./GeigerLog.sh setup" I get this error. Bob
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I get the following errors as indicated in the screen shots. One was after typing from the GeigerLog manual "./GeigerLog.sh setup" And the other after typing the start command from the manual "./GeigerLog.sh" Bob
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Copied and then pasted the script in Terminal that is. Bob
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Thanks Ullix I downloaded the latest stable version if it does not work out I will go to the previous version to it. I was plesently suprised when after the Python install I got a message stating that "PIP" needed an update. I am like great now how does this work? I had Python launcher running did "CD Python" in terminal and in the Python message simply copied the script (it actually displayed it) and it successfully updated! For folks like me I need the scripts/Commands to copy and paste. I have...
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Ullix I wish to install GeigerLog on my MacBook Pro. I just installed python on my MBP. Which version if any do you recommend for install on my MAC? Thanks, Bob
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Welcome! Ullix recommended to me prior to each flight to do the following A factory reset and when I start saving data not to use the "Note/Location " field and I save data every second and then go. He may have different suggestions now since this was awhile back so stand by he will be here in a bit. Bob
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I just messaged the developer and asked him to leave a message on the forum. His name is Nick. Bob
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The conversion kit does not include the scintillation probe that’s extra $179 for the MK one and $229 for the MK two. The MK one has more sensitivity and the MK two has a higher resolution I opted for the MK one I just needed sensitivity. overall, a very cool upgrade. I think you’re right it is pulses I can ask the developer because when connected Arduino IDE serial monitor you can see the pulses per minute and I am sure CPS as well but I haven’t got that far yet I know absolutely nothing about Arduino....
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I just finished modifing my old Electro Neutronics CD V-700 6b. It is now a scintillator. It is Arduino based so I am hoping it can be used with GeigerLog. Take a look at his website where I purchased the kit. I made a short video as well. https://www.radviewdetection.com/cdv-x-radview My video here: https://youtube.com/shorts/QWrotktEZGM?
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I just finished modifing my old Electro Neutronics CD V-700 6b. it is now a scintillator. It is Arduino based so I am hoping it can be used with GeigerLog. Take a look at his website where I purchased the kit. I made a short video as well. https://www.radviewdetection.com/cdv-x-radview My video here: https://youtube.com/shorts/QWrotktEZGM?
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That is an extenstion rod handle. This unit is set up for dose measurment and yes it still works. The probe is in photo attached. Bob
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I have one of these now a DP5V Ullix . I robbed another museum LOL! It was a Birthday gift from my oldest Son. Bob
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I have one of these a DP5V Ullix . I robbed another museum LOL! It was a Birthday gift from my oldest Son. Bob
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I have one of these now Ullix I robbed another museum LOL! It was a Birthday gift from my oldest Son. Bob
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Wow never seen such a thing. It also makes it difficult if one wants to repair it after the warranty is up. Bob
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Question, I am still running version "1.50 Pre49" should I install or update it to the version 1.5? If so, what is the preferred method of doing so? Thanks, Bob
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OK thank you for letting me know. Bob
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Well here is the answer from support attachments need to be 32MB or less. "We appreciate your reaching out to us. We wanted to bring to your attention a limit regarding attachments in our wiki. As much as we value the content you share, we kindly request that attachments remain within 32 MB in size. This ensures optimal performance and accessibility for all users. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Sincerely, SourceForge Support"
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There is a PDF download link on the webpage using the previously shared link above in the discussion. I submitted a support ticket at SourceForge meanwhile I will tried renaming the file to see if perhaps this is the issue and it was not I will need to wait for supports response. Researching the maximum file upload size I found this Could you be at the limit at your GeigerLog project site? : https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Disk%20Quotas/ Ticket: #25766 Unable to upload 40MB PDF file...
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Unable to upload 40MB PDF file
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Really it looked good on my end I tried uploading the PDF but got message at sourceforge it was too large? Bob On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 12:01 PM ullix ullix@users.sourceforge.net wrote: It is! But it sure is hard to read in its online format ... Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/geigerlog/wiki/Home/ To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/
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I tried uploading the PDF about 40mb get the error too large? Bob
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Here is another great resource book. Bob https://archive.org/details/pdfy-KjqMaZQFCJ7PUQgp/mode/2up
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I ordered these for the next radon testing with the 600+ and the 102. https://a.co/d/eaHGqMX Bob
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Well I sort of figured out how to get a CPS chart out of the RC-102 using the logs in the Windows software and the data filter. I then exported the data as a .CSV file opened it using Excel and used Excel to create the attached chart. I'll try out out when I do the next decay experiment. I attached the file and I remember you said it can be modified and also opened in GeigerLog as well can you refresh for me exactly how to do this? Thanks. Bob
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Well I sort of figured out how to get a CPS chart out of the RC-102 using the logs in the Windows software and the data filter. I then exported the data as a .CSV file opened it using Excel and used Excel to create the attached chart. If anyone has a better Idea or software please let me know. Perhaps the RC-102 Software can have a feature added that allows the creation of graphs? Just a thought. I'll try out out when I do the next decay experiment. I attached the file and I remember you said it...
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Well I sort of figured out how to get a CPS chart out of the RC-102 using the logs in the Windows software and the data filter. I then exported the data as a .CSV file opened it using Excel and used Excel to create the attached chart. If anyone has a better Idea or software please let me know. Perhaps the RC-102 Software can have a feature added that allows the creation of graphs? Just a thought. I'll try out out when I do the next decay experiment. I attached the file and I remember you said it...
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Well I sort of figured out how to get a CPS chart out of the RC-102 using the logs in the Windows software and the data filter. I then exported the data as a .CSV file opened it using Excel and used Excel to create the attached chart. If anyone has a better Idea or software please let me know. Perhaps the RC-102 Software can have a feature added that allows the creation of graphs? Just a thought. I'll try out out when I do the next decay experiment. I attached the file and I remember you said it...
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Well I sort of figured out how to get a CPS chart out of the RC-102 using the logs in the Windows software and the data filter. I then exported the data as a .CSV file opened it using Excel and used Excel to create the attached chart. If anyone has a better Idea or software please let me know. Perhaps the RC-102 Software can have a feature added that allows the creation of graphs? Just a thought. I'll try out out when I do the next decay experiment. I attached the file and I remember you said it...
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Interesting, with the cotton in the bag the decay time appears to be much quicker is this due to the fact with the cotton in the bag I am now not seeing the alpha decay? Bob
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Yep I am aware of the activated carbon it is used in home Radon test kits due to it's absorbtion properties I am looking for some. Currently I removed the cotton after three days placed it in a small zip bag and am logging data with the 600+ I will do exactly the same with the 102 with a new 3 day cotton patch just placed that one in the jar today. Bob
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According to the German Wiki article that you linked it says, "When a gram of 226Ra disintegrate, 0.64 cm3 222Rn per month is produced.[26]" So the longer I leave the cotton in the jar I assume a higher concentration/density of Radon and it's daughters will be present in the cotton, well at least these are my thoughts? Bob
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I’m glad you asked that Sir. This will be my next evolution. I want to do one more sample with the cotton in the container for a few days with the GMC 600+ and then after that, I’ll try to re-create the same with the 102. Bob
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I ran two more experiments. First experiment. I have small antique travel clock dial painted with Ra Paint in a sealed glass container see image. The clock has been in this container since placing it there weeks ago. I took a cotton round previously checked to have no activity above background I removed the container cover and using the cotton round swiped/rubbed the underside of the cover made of plastic and the glass walls on the inside of the container. I then placed this cotton round directly...
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Thank you Ullix. Bob
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It's been awhile I hope you are doing well Ullix. Unfortunately one of my sisters has been diagnosed with cancer so I have been preoccupied with family matters. I have though now an interest in Radon in the home and decided to do a quick non-Qualitative check in my home. I simply took my Dyson vacuum and vacuumed the carpet in my bedroom the results are attached. I placed the sample in a very thin plastic bag to keep the contamination down I realize some or all of the alpha was most likely blocked...
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I just heard back from a guy at InterSpec Support there is a Python based conversion program for converting the RadiaCode XML files to a ANSI N42 format for use in InterSpec The latest Windows development version does now open the RadiaCode XML files. Previously you had to use a CSV file. Converter Here: https://github.com/ckuethe/radiacode-tools#n42convertpy Project here: https://sandialabs.github.io/InterSpec/ Bob
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I’m glad to hear you’re radiacode is back up and running! My background reading on my Radiacode in the house here is around 250 CPM. The background with my 600+ runs around 35 to 50 CPM. Bob
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I’m glad to hear you’re a radiacode is back up and running! My background reading on my Radiacode in the house here is around 250 CPM. The background with my 600+ runs around 35 to 50 CPM. Bob
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i’ve been away myself, Sir. The device is extremely easy to open up and from what I’ve seen on the forum which you should join by the way it is the official support form. The owner is actually in the forum. You can actually message him privately as well, and since your unit is under warranty. You should be able to get it exchanged out if needed but usually issues like yours are resolved by disconnecting the battery and then reconnecting it and try charging it again. I have attached some photos from...
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Here is my latest K-40 Scan and Thorium scan. I actually performed a "Rough" Calibration with it. For the K-40 and my Thorium scans I use a lead PIG as a shield it helps with the resolution by eliminating much of the background See image of how I scanned the Thorium TIG Welding electrodes you should be able to get them in Germany. Bob
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BTW, InterSpec also has an App for the iPhone and Android below is the iPhone link. Bob https://apps.apple.com/us/app/interspec-radiation-analysis/id1447080767
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