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to me this is progress; some of the tests look (now and before) plain silly to me: rest-dot-position.ly: aligned longa and breve rests should not touch each other TAB staves: is it actually expected that a longa and breve rests don't go from line to line?

Undotted quarter would match the principles of mensural notation (rests are never dotted and always perfect if mensuration says so); half would be the result of scaling the "whole rest in 3/4 time" principle. Mensural notation has perfect and imperfect division, yes, but only for maxima, longa, brevis and semibrevis (= whole) notes/values. So I see no point in having undotted minima and seminiminma (half and quarter) rests: this principle of mensural notation doesn’t apply to these values. Yes, that's...

Would you really notate a rest in 3/8 as quarter or half instead of whole or dotted quarter? I definitely would not, I just said that as the only argument I can imagine someone could come up with in support of usable-duration-logs. Undotted quarter would match the principles of mensural notation (rests are never dotted and always perfect if mensuration says so); half would be the result of scaling the "whole rest in 3/4 time" principle. but those were never used, I guess; Bach uses whole rests, see...

thanks, Werner; I'd call that "inconsistently modern practice" in that multi-measure rests are written so that one bar is represented by a semibreve rest, while a single measure rest is represented by a breve rest. the example is great as it can be compared to the original: Bach wrote an MMR of 21 2/2 bars, see page 2, line 4 of http://ks.petruccimusiclibrary.org/files/imglnks/usimg/0/05/IMSLP102259-PMLP04197-Bach_Bm_Mass_parts_278110185_bass.pdf (note also that Bach shifts full and half bar-lines...

for default expand-limit I vote for 8. about usable-duration-logs: I also suggest not to use it; however, the main usage would be to use dotless full measure rests e.g. in 3/8 time (so R4. could look like r4 or r2).

I meant the Kyrie II and Gratias movements from the original violin part; there the shapes are longa, breve, whole, but the numbers above those rests is the number of wholes; barring in the movement otherwise is like 4/2 with short bar lines (two middle spaces) in the middle. yes, the NBA part has breve shapes for the single measure rests, unlike the Saint-Saëns examples.

this example contains a single measure rest too, and it's again written as a whole rest; note also that number 1 is printed above. so it seems that a full measure rest is written as a whole rest regardless of measure length and rest length.

(Alas 2: on IMSLP I could find an original violin part for Kyrie-Gloria, but not for Credo. rests in Kyrie II and Gratias follow Lilypond's default, but arguably those are not 4/2 bars but 2/2 ones.) and in the Saint-Saëns example a single measure rest is written as a whole, not as a breve; that's at least consistent, but sort of confusing as some measures earlier a single bar contained two whole rests and some other stuff.