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#941 recording countdown needs to go away

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2018-06-04
2006-06-14
No

It needs to go away for MIDI, especially, with the new
endless canvas. We might want to put it back to audio
only, the way it used to be, or just get rid of the
stupid thing, and get rid of the audio recording limit
too. I have 208 GB of disk space free after that
upgrade. Anybody who can afford a computer fast enough
to run Rosegarden and JACK can probably afford at least
a 100 GB hard drive. Why not just let people record
until they feel like hitting stop?

Is there any really compelling reason to keep an audio
recording limit? If not, I say let's dump that too,
and get rid of the countdown dialog entirely.

Related

Feature Requests: #362
Feature Requests: #453

Discussion

  • Chris Cannam

    Chris Cannam - 2006-06-14

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    Agreed on MIDI, but I think we do need to keep a countdown
    for audio.

    Lots of people who could afford 200+GB drives don't
    actually have them. Particularly laptop users. Also we
    should adjust the countdown to take into account the fact
    that .wav files are limited to 32 bits (i.e. 90-odd mins
    per stereo track at 48KHz).

     
  • D. Michael McIntyre

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    I'm passing this buck. You deleted all the audio recording
    countdown infrastructure. It's commented out in a 1.0
    tarball, but there's no remaining trace of it in SVN.

    It sure isn't worth my time to fish it out of the trash bin
    and put this back, since I think the recording countdown
    thing is pointless and annoying anyway.

    I'm just going to comment out the ->show() calls so nobody
    will see it, and you can figure out what, if anything, to
    do from there.

    My vote is just to root out all the supporting cruft and
    let the whole business go into the annals of history.

     
  • Chris Cannam

    Chris Cannam - 2006-07-08

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    Gosh, does that mean the audio recording countdown in
    1.2.3 and 1.2.4 always counts to the end of the
    composition? i.e. if you don't have enough disk space to
    record to the nominal end of the composition, you'll just
    run out without the countdown ever warning you about it?

    That's a bit crap, if so. OK, I'll have a little look and
    see what happened to the code.

     
  • D. Michael McIntyre

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    1.0 says:

    / #1045380 ("minutes of audio recording" just insanely
    confusing) -- No, let's not use this. We should count
    to the end of the composition in both cases.
    [...]
    /

    So I assume that it does, in fact, mean we've been counting
    to the end of the composition for the past 18 months to two
    years.

    Thinking about this a bit more, I think what we should do
    here is leave audiorecordminutes in the CVS archives, and
    instead make the countdown run to the end of available disk
    space, and/or the end of the maximum possible 90-minute
    file size.

    Some indication of how you're doing using up a finite
    resource is a good thing, but have an arbitrary,
    pre-selected limit on the maximum length of a recording
    session smacks back to the bad old days of a non-expanding
    composition. I don't like the idea of resurrecting that
    arbitrary limit at all.

     
  • Chris Cannam

    Chris Cannam - 2006-07-08

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    You know, I'd quite forgotten there ever was an arbitrary
    limit. That was pretty dismal. Ugh.

    No, I wasn't trying to argue for restoring that -- I was
    trying to argue for the same thing you just were, i.e. a
    countdown to a full disk (or WAV file overflow).

    I thought the pre-1.0 behaviour took disk space into
    account -- in fact I was thinking that that was all it
    did, as I'd forgotten the arbitrary limit as mentioned --
    so I was surprised that disk space didn't continue to be a
    factor through to 1.2.3. But then I think quite a bit
    changed in the countdown logic in that time (and I might
    have misremembered about disk space ever being accounted
    for).

    Chris

     
  • D. Michael McIntyre

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    OK, good then, it's agreed.

    I didn't realize you didn't realize what I was going on
    about. I think the default limit used to be either three
    or five minutes, and if you wanted to record for 10
    minutes, you had to change both the comp length and the
    audio limit. That need to change things in two different
    places is what you were seeking to abolish just prior to
    1.0 when you got rid of the audio recording time limit.

    I think the remaining limit was supposed to run to the end
    of the comp or the end of disk space, but the code I see
    here does not appear to take disk space into account.
    Since the comp has no hard end, and there is no longer any
    audio recording time limit, that's why I've been ranting
    about the pointlessness of this dialog. When you get past
    the soft limit, it starts reporting nonsense.

    A redone dialog that serves some sensible purpose, now, on
    that we are agreed.

     
  • D. Michael McIntyre

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    What audio countdown?

     
  • Ted Felix

    Ted Felix - 2018-06-04

    The countdown dialog was removed from sequencemanager.cpp in [r7366]. I'm contemplating cleaning up the old code related to this, so I figured I'd leave a clue here in case anyone in the future decides to work on [feature-requests:#453].

     

    Related

    Commit: [r7366]
    Feature Requests: #453


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