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Re: [Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[Luca C. <luc...@em...>]

Re: [Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[Luca C. <luc...@em...>]

Re: [Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:55:03 -0400
Ken Olum <kd...@co...> wrote:

>    From: Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...>
>    Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 01:45:40 +1000
> 
>    You would have more luck running Dragon via Wine.
> 
> Personally I never had much luck with WINE.  But I use
> NaturallySpeaking every day in a Windows XP VM running under Ubuntu.
> See my "xdragon" program: http://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/~kdo/xdragon/
> 
>                                         Ken
>
I use Crossover Office.  It did a bit better.

I decided that your answer might work well, but it was too complicated
when I wasn't really disabled.  I can run Dragon 12 under Windows 7 as
a Virtualbox guest, but it means that in effect, I am running Windows.
I can run my death indexing program under Crossover and ReactOS.
The pull-down calendars work, but don't display the result.  In
addition, "spinner" action doesn't work.  I need to pull the month down
for each entry.

The other possibility is a free voice recognition program running inside
Google Chrome.  I found it quite accurate, but went back to the
keyboard. 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/voice-recognition/

Google are looking for beta testers for an app equivalent to Dragon,
but they really want volume users.  No doubt there will be a cost for
the released program.

Philips have been advertising a proprietary product.  It probably needs
Windows.

Doug.

Re: [Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[Ken O. <kd...@co...>]

   From: Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...>
   Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 01:45:40 +1000

   You would have more luck running Dragon via Wine.

Personally I never had much luck with WINE.  But I use NaturallySpeaking
every day in a Windows XP VM running under Ubuntu.  See my "xdragon"
program: http://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/~kdo/xdragon/

                                        Ken

Re: [Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 17:30:32 +0200
elpimous12 <elp...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello.Could anyone help me with a download link for viavoice complete
> install?Thanks allVincent
> 
> 
> Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.

ViaVoice has been dead for years.  The rights have been sold to Dragon.
I am the last remaining maintainer of the Xvoice list. I can give you a
link to my copy, but you might have difficulty making it work. You
would have more luck running Dragon via Wine.  What is your operating
system? Is it RPM-based or .deb?

Doug.

[Xvoice-user] Need viavoice binaries.

[elpimous12 <elp...@gm...>]

Hello.Could anyone help me with a download link for viavoice complete install?Thanks allVincent


Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.

[Xvoice-user] "If all else fails..."

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

...read the instructions.

Firstly, we have a new registration.  Welcome Chris.  If you are
looking for a chat, you have come to the wrong place.  Otherwise, tell
us what brings you here.

From somewhere, sometime, I downloaded a voice recognition extension
for OpenOffice and LibreOffice (also BrOffice - it comes from Brazil.)

Adding it to Linux seemed to do nothing, so I tried Windows.  Windows
wanted the path to the Julius speech engine,
http://julius.osdn.jp/en_index.php

So I read the instructions.  It is alpha, from Google Code. It works
only under Linux, and provides a dictation pad.  It recommends the
VoxForge project, which includes a copy of Julius in the download.  I
have a recent download of VoxForge on hand, so I am about to try it
out.  If it shows any promise, I will look for an update.  VoxForge has
a very basic voice model.

Fingers crossed,

Doug.

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Re: [Xvoice-user] Getting FreeSpeech to run

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:29:53 +1000
Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:

> Everything works in Mageia Cauldron, EXCEPT TRAINING.
> 
> When I press the Learn button, the program tries to select text to
> replace. The command output is something like:
> 
> str(tex, replace)
> 
> That form is used in Python documentation, but it doesn't work with
> str().  I get an error message that "str() can take only one argument,
> not two." Strangely, I can't see that line in freespeech.py.
> 
> It is now over my head.  It needs a Python programmer.  There is no
> support link on the Web site, and the graphic there is out of date.

I was wrong.  The line is there at line 465:

tex = str(tex, errors='replace')

Doug.

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Re: [Xvoice-user] Getting FreeSpeech to run

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:55:03 +1000
Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:

> I was wrong about the fix.  "autoaudiosrc" works only in GNOME. for
> other DE's, it needs to be replaced by alsarc or ossrc.  I chose
> alsarc.  Everything works, but there is no output to the dictation
> pad.
> 
> Things to try: disable Pulse when launching FreeSpeech.
> Try ossrc.
> 
> Doug.

Everything works in Mageia Cauldron, EXCEPT TRAINING.

When I press the Learn button, the program tries to select text to
replace. The command output is something like:

str(tex, replace)

That form is used in Python documentation, but it doesn't work with
str().  I get an error message that "str() can take only one argument,
not two." Strangely, I can't see that line in freespeech.py.

It is now over my head.  It needs a Python programmer.  There is no
support link on the Web site, and the graphic there is out of date.

Doug. 

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running 4.4.13-desktop-1.mga5 with DE=MATE

Re: [Xvoice-user] Getting FreeSpeech to run

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:20:49 +1000
Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:

> FreeSpeech seems to be the most practical type of voice recognition
> for Linux.  Its accuracy is woeful, but can be improved.
> 
> One problem I found, and which seemed to be insurmountable, was the
> error message:
> 
> ./freespeech.py 
> ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./freespeech.py", line 690, in <module>
>     app = freespeech()
>   File "./freespeech.py", line 78, in __init__
>     self.init_gst()
>   File "./freespeech.py", line 249, in init_gst
>     + '! pocketsphinx name=asr ! fakesink')
> glib.GError: no element "autoaudiosrc"
> 
> 
> I have no knowledge of writing Python, but I decided to get rid of
> "autoaudiosrc" as follows:
> 
> For "gst.parse_launch('autoaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample" 
> 
> Substitute: "gst.parse_launch('audioconvert ! audioresample"
> 
> The rest of the line is untouched.  Maybe not legit, but it works!
> 
> Doug.
> 
> 

I was wrong about the fix.  "autoaudiosrc" works only in GNOME. for
other DE's, it needs to be replaced by alsarc or ossrc.  I chose
alsarc.  Everything works, but there is no output to the dictation pad.

Things to try: disable Pulse when launching FreeSpeech.
Try ossrc.

Doug.


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[Xvoice-user] Getting FreeSpeech to run

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

FreeSpeech seems to be the most practical type of voice recognition for
Linux.  Its accuracy is woeful, but can be improved.

One problem I found, and which seemed to be insurmountable, was the
error message:

./freespeech.py 
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./freespeech.py", line 690, in <module>
    app = freespeech()
  File "./freespeech.py", line 78, in __init__
    self.init_gst()
  File "./freespeech.py", line 249, in init_gst
    + '! pocketsphinx name=asr ! fakesink')
glib.GError: no element "autoaudiosrc"


I have no knowledge of writing Python, but I decided to get rid of
"autoaudiosrc" as follows:

For "gst.parse_launch('autoaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample" 

Substitute: "gst.parse_launch('audioconvert ! audioresample"

The rest of the line is untouched.  Maybe not legit, but it works!

Doug.


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Re: [Xvoice-user] xdragon: a new facility for using NaturallySpeaking in a VM

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 00:57:45 +0100 (BST)
dam...@gm... wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Ken Olum wrote:
> 
> > I wrote a new system to allow me to run NaturallySpeaking in a
> > virtual machine under Linux and get my NaturallySpeaking keystrokes
> > sent to X windows on the host.  It's in rather preliminary form,
> > but I'm using it as my regular dictation system and I have
> > disconnected the Windows machine that I used to use as a front end
> > for this purpose.
> > 
> > For more information, see http://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/~kdo/xdragon/
> 
> This is excellent work!  Makes me feel guilty I never bothered
> finishing my plans for running linux ViaVoice in a vm/chroot and
> X11ing to the main X server.
> 
> It may be worth suggesting to firewall the X port to only permit
> connections from the VM seeing as you need to open it for network
> rather than socket connections.  Auth is one thing, but who knows
> what bufer overflows could exist in the X server?
> 
>  - Damion
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry I haven't replied to this.  I saw it, and thought it was far too
complicated for me.  Further, I am really fighting depression and
motivation all the time now.

Still, I agree that it is an excellent idea.  I will leave it to you
knowledgeable guys to handle the technical development.

Doug.

Re: [Xvoice-user] xdragon: a new facility for using NaturallySpeaking in a VM

[<dam...@gm...>]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Ken Olum wrote:

> I wrote a new system to allow me to run NaturallySpeaking in a virtual
> machine under Linux and get my NaturallySpeaking keystrokes sent to X
> windows on the host.  It's in rather preliminary form, but I'm using
> it as my regular dictation system and I have disconnected the Windows
> machine that I used to use as a front end for this purpose.
> 
> For more information, see http://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/~kdo/xdragon/

This is excellent work!  Makes me feel guilty I never bothered finishing
my plans for running linux ViaVoice in a vm/chroot and X11ing to the
main X server.

It may be worth suggesting to firewall the X port to only permit
connections from the VM seeing as you need to open it for network rather
than socket connections.  Auth is one thing, but who knows what bufer
overflows could exist in the X server?

 - Damion

[Xvoice-user] xdragon: a new facility for using NaturallySpeaking in a VM

[Ken O. <kd...@co...>]

I wrote a new system to allow me to run NaturallySpeaking in a virtual
machine under Linux and get my NaturallySpeaking keystrokes sent to X
windows on the host.  It's in rather preliminary form, but I'm using
it as my regular dictation system and I have disconnected the Windows
machine that I used to use as a front end for this purpose.

For more information, see http://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/~kdo/xdragon/

                                        Ken

Re: [Xvoice-user] Dragon 12 stopped working

[<dam...@gm...>]

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT) dam...@gm... wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> > 
> > > Dragon 12 still works under Windows 7, but under Linux with
> > > Crossover Office, it crashes immediately with an obscure DLL
> > > fault.  I may switch to my wife's laptop, which needs Dragon 13.
> > 
> > Do you have any success with Google docs?  It needs you to be
> > online, but other than that is free and anyOS compatible.
> 
> Had some early success with the Vooxforge kit, but recently, it can't
> hear the mic.
> 
> Just tried FreeSpeech again.  Everything installed, but no output.
> pavucontrol shows that the mic. output is always flat out, and
> increases as the top limit is raised.

Sorry I was confused!

If you have an Android tablet or phone they have good accessability
options for voice control and dictation, but they're not about getting
dictated text working on Linux (unless you count android as Linux) so I
don't know if it's worth mentioning more about that

My RSI cleared up significantly after I started taking sensible breaks
from typing, so I've not really a need for dictation myself, but
Google's voice support is extremely good even with no training.

One day... maybe when I retire, I'll have time to get a chrooted VV
environment that'll work for anyone on any distribution and regain
Xvoice X11 window management support, until then I'd recommend wine or
google docs.

 - Damion

Re: [Xvoice-user] Dragon 12 stopped working

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT)
dam...@gm... wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> 
> > Dragon 12 still works under Windows 7, but under Linux with
> > Crossover Office, it crashes immediately with an obscure DLL
> > fault.  I may switch to my wife's laptop, which needs Dragon 13.
> 
> Do you have any success with Google docs?  It needs you to be online,
> but other than that is free and anyOS compatible.
> 
>  - Damion
> 

There is no mention of dictation in the info.  My tablet has an app
which may support dictation, but otherwise only keyboarding gets a
mention.

Doug.

Re: [Xvoice-user] Dragon 12 stopped working

[<dam...@gm...>]

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

> Dragon 12 still works under Windows 7, but under Linux with Crossover
> Office, it crashes immediately with an obscure DLL fault.  I may
> switch to my wife's laptop, which needs Dragon 13.

Do you have any success with Google docs?  It needs you to be online,
but other than that is free and anyOS compatible.

 - Damion

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Re: [Xvoice-user] Developments in Speech Recognition in Ubuntu

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:05:31 +0930
Ian <il...@gm...> wrote:

> Doug and others, I saw this post on the Speech Computing Forums and
> wondered if you had seen any of these developments and had any
> comment on them.
> 
> The open source GNU/Linux speech recognition program that uses
> Google's voice APIs on the back-end is now called Palaver. Google+
> Community, installation video, and Github links are here:
> 
> https://github.com/JamezQ/Palaver
> 
> Palaver Speech Recognition Community on Google +:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/communities/11729542090211...<https://plus.google.com/communities/117295420902112738135>
> 
> Information about Palaver
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-aolmt0OE
> 
> How to install Ubuntu Voice Recognition (Palaver by James McClain)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxom292XW_gof
> 
> 
> 

Just saw this one.  Palaver is now on GitHub (what isn't?)
https://github.com/JamezQ/Palaver

[Xvoice-user] Dragon 12 stopped working

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

Dragon 12 still works under Windows 7, but under Linux with Crossover
Office, it crashes immediately with an obscure DLL fault.  I may switch
to my wife's laptop, which needs Dragon 13.

Had some early success with the Vooxforge kit, but recently, it can't
hear the mic.

Just tried FreeSpeech again.  Everything installed, but no output.
pavucontrol shows that the mic. output is always flat out, and
increases as the top limit is raised.

Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Ken O. <kd...@co...>]

   From: Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...>
   Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 02:40:58 +1100

   > Did Nuance by any chance put back in 13 the phonetic-alphabet
   > dictation that they removed in 12?

   The quick help card says that you can still use "Spell That."  Do you
   mean the ICAO phonetic alphabet?

Yes, in particular as part of a single utterance mixed with regular
words.

                           Ken

Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 10:48:09 -0500
Ken Olum <kd...@co...> wrote:

> Did Nuance by any chance put back in 13 the phonetic-alphabet
> dictation that they removed in 12?

The quick help card says that you can still use "Spell That."  Do you
mean the ICAO phonetic alphabet?

Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 10:48:09 -0500
Ken Olum <kd...@co...> wrote:

>    I'm running Dragon 13 Premium right now but getting something
> running on Linux is a long held dream as you know ;)
> 
>    I'm all ears to hear what might be likely to work.
> 
> I'm using NaturallySpeaking 12 under WINE with a modified version of
> platypus, on a regular basis.  It works, but you have to put up with
> rather a lot of flakiness.  I'm wondering whether it might be better
> to run NaturallySpeaking under real Windows in a VM.  This assumes
> that your goal is getting something done with a single piece of
> hardware, rather than, say, avoiding commercial software.
> 
> Did Nuance by any chance put back in 13 the phonetic-alphabet
> dictation that they removed in 12?  I was going to implement this in
> platypus, but I don't think it could ever be as good as actually
> having it in NaturallySpeaking.
> 
>                                         Ken
> 
I am at present running NaturallySpeaking 12 under Crossover Office.
It uses Gecko, which couldn't handle the Web-style sidebar, so I
disabled that in Windows, and copied my profile across.  The menu bar
went right across the middle of my screen, so I changed to the short
bar, which I could move about.

Pulse Audio told me I could have the microphone on my Webcam or
nothing, so I unplugged the Webcam.

"Spell that" does seem to have gone, even when in the correction box.
You have to type the correction, or choose an alternative.  That is
probably good enough for ordinary business users.  I can put up with
it, because my only disability is co-ordination.

I am running Windows 7, which is the last Windows to support NS 12.  It
refused to install on my wife's laptop with Win 8.1.

Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Ken O. <kd...@co...>]

   I'm running Dragon 13 Premium right now but getting something running
   on Linux is a long held dream as you know ;)

   I'm all ears to hear what might be likely to work.

I'm using NaturallySpeaking 12 under WINE with a modified version of
platypus, on a regular basis.  It works, but you have to put up with
rather a lot of flakiness.  I'm wondering whether it might be better to
run NaturallySpeaking under real Windows in a VM.  This assumes that
your goal is getting something done with a single piece of hardware,
rather than, say, avoiding commercial software.

Did Nuance by any chance put back in 13 the phonetic-alphabet dictation
that they removed in 12?  I was going to implement this in platypus, but
I don't think it could ever be as good as actually having it in
NaturallySpeaking.

                                        Ken

Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Ian <il...@gm...>]

Hi Doug, now that is interesting, I'm running Dragon 13 Premium right now
but getting something running on Linux is a long held dream as you know ;)

I'm all ears to hear what might be likely to work.

On 3 November 2014 01:34, Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 00:54:13 +1100
> Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:
>
> > There is a different project on SourceForge.  They renamed it OpenMind
> > to make it "findable,"  but the app is still called FreeSpeech.  It is
> > still under development.  Address:
> >
> > http://freespeech.sourceforge.net/
> >
>  Just came across this link:
>
> https://gitorious.org/blather
>
> I don't know anything about it.
>
>
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Re: [Xvoice-user] FreeSpeech

[Doug L. <lai...@ho...>]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 00:54:13 +1100
Doug Laidlaw <lai...@ho...> wrote:

> There is a different project on SourceForge.  They renamed it OpenMind
> to make it "findable,"  but the app is still called FreeSpeech.  It is
> still under development.  Address:
> 
> http://freespeech.sourceforge.net/
> 
 Just came across this link:

https://gitorious.org/blather

I don't know anything about it.