Thread: [XonX-Users] Re: X11 and opendarwin 7.2.1 ppc and gd 1.1 and no luck
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From: Yves de C. <yv...@gn...> - 2004-09-18 16:57:24
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> Incidentally, I tried running startx then sleeping and killing X, and > the result is that the mouse cursor goes away, but the screen stays > grey. > > it says screen :0 added, then discarding screen :1, then it says > invalid hieght and width > > Maybe the problem is related to me having an ATI Radeon 8500. I had an > ATI driver installed under OS X Jaguar, and X11 has worked on Jaguar > and continues to work under Panther. I wonder if I need to get an ati > driver installed into opendarwin somehow in order for X to work. Here is the output I had which was very similar, except that I got a black screen covering everything except the cursor and that it happened only if I had an OpenFirmware screen during boot (including with the <alt> key) Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc. Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. Display mode: IOKit Screen 0 added: 1440x900 @ (0,0) Discarding screen 1: Invalid width or height. yves |
From: Patrik M. <pa...@ch...> - 2004-09-20 18:55:09
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On 04-09-18 18.56, Yves de Champlain (yv...@gn...) wrote: >> Incidentally, I tried running startx then sleeping and killing X, and >> the result is that the mouse cursor goes away, but the screen stays >> grey. >> >> it says screen :0 added, then discarding screen :1, then it says >> invalid hieght and width >> >> Maybe the problem is related to me having an ATI Radeon 8500. I had an >> ATI driver installed under OS X Jaguar, and X11 has worked on Jaguar >> and continues to work under Panther. I wonder if I need to get an ati >> driver installed into opendarwin somehow in order for X to work. > > Here is the output I had which was very similar, except that I got a > black screen > covering everything except the cursor and that it happened only if I > had an OpenFirmware > screen during boot (including with the <alt> key) > > Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc. > Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. > Display mode: IOKit > Screen 0 added: 1440x900 @ (0,0) > Discarding screen 1: > Invalid width or height. The problem is that the monitor resolution it finds is not among the defaults it accepts at first. Try setting it to 1024*768 and see if you can get the server to boot that way. That done, see if you can get the program xf86cfg to run - I don't remember if it's installed by default or if you have to find it somewhere. If you can get the program to run, you can use it to add other accepted resolutions (modelines). -- Patrik Montgomery // pa...@ch... |
From: Yves de C. <yv...@gn...> - 2004-09-20 21:11:45
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>>> Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc. >>> Using keymapping provided in >>> /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. >>> Display mode: IOKit >>> Screen 0 added: 1440x900 @ (0,0) >>> Discarding screen 1: >>> Invalid width or height. > > Thanks. I tried: > > startx -- -size 640 480 > startx -- -refresh 60 -size 640 480 > startx -- -refresh 75 -size 1024 768 Maybe you could try with a size and refresh that you know your monitor supports. Also, you may want to try with Darwin 7.01 from Apple which also comes with its own XFree86 although it would be surprising that OpenDarwin has less driver support unless there was a licence problem yves |
From: Torrey L. <to...@mr...> - 2004-09-21 19:42:05
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On or about Kendall Shaw 9/21/04 wrote: >Regarding xf86cfg, I read: > >"From the console, the Darwin port of XFree86 uses the IOKit for device >driver loading and discovery, rather than the XFree86 module loader. >Because of this, the XFree86 configuration file is not used on Darwin or >Mac OS X systems." > >In the Darwin specific notes that come with XFree86 4.4.0. > >Can I still use xf86cfg? No. xf86cfg is not useful for XDarwin. >I wonder if copying /System/Library/Extensions/ATI* from MacOS X into >opendarwin's filesystem would allow opendarwin to use ati's drivers. Yes. This is often a good way to make sure you have the full working drivers. Unfortunately, due to licensing constraints, some necessary drivers can not be redistributed by anyone besides Apple. Note that message described by Yves de Champlain is different: > Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc. > Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. > Display mode: IOKit > Screen 0 added: 1440x900 @ (0,0) > Discarding screen 1: > Invalid width or height. This is a typical message for a laptop. In this case one valid screen was found (screen 0) and a second invalid screen was discarded. The invalid screen is typically because the laptop could drive two displays, but one display has nothing connected to it. --Torrey |
From: <pr...@gn...> - 2004-09-21 19:58:03
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On 21 Sep, Torrey Lyons wrote: > No. xf86cfg is not useful for XDarwin. Thank you Torrey! >>I wonder if copying /System/Library/Extensions/ATI* from MacOS X into >>opendarwin's filesystem would allow opendarwin to use ati's drivers. > > Yes. This is often a good way to make sure you have the full working > drivers. Unfortunately, due to licensing constraints, some necessary > drivers can not be redistributed by anyone besides Apple. I have the prototype GNU-Darwin free version for PPC running on my cube G4 at home. It has an Apple distributed ATI Rage Pro video card, and the system seems to be working quite well with all the proprietary drivers stripped out (Disc production soon I promise! ;-). Can we modify the statement above to say that newer cards can be supported by modifying the free parts of the OS, or by adding novel free drivers? IMHO, this is a requirement for a free OS, and it appears to be at least doable if not fun, just like Darwin Free Audio. Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ -- Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- w--- !O M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e++++ h--- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
From: Torrey L. <to...@mr...> - 2004-09-21 21:44:31
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At 3:57 PM -0400 9/21/04, pr...@gn... wrote: >On 21 Sep, Torrey Lyons wrote: >> No. xf86cfg is not useful for XDarwin. > >Thank you Torrey! > >>>I wonder if copying /System/Library/Extensions/ATI* from MacOS X into >>>opendarwin's filesystem would allow opendarwin to use ati's drivers. > > > > Yes. This is often a good way to make sure you have the full working > > drivers. Unfortunately, due to licensing constraints, some necessary > > drivers can not be redistributed by anyone besides Apple. > >I have the prototype GNU-Darwin free version for PPC running on my >cube G4 at home. It has an Apple distributed ATI Rage Pro video card, >and the system seems to be working quite well with all the proprietary >drivers stripped out (Disc production soon I promise! ;-). Can we >modify the statement above to say that newer cards can be supported by >modifying the free parts of the OS, or by adding novel free drivers? >IMHO, this is a requirement for a free OS, and it appears to be at >least doable if not fun, just like Darwin Free Audio. Yes, I'd really like to see an open source IOKit video card driver instead of just the ndrv shim. In any case, it is unfortunate that some video hardware currently relies on closed source drivers not written by Apple. I should note that XDarwin in IOKit mode does not really make many demands on the video drivers as it does not rely on any hardware acceleration features. (Well, it does use a hardware cursor if that counts.) Thus a driver that supports only the rudimentary features is good enough. --Torrey |
From: Kendall S. <qu...@pa...> - 2004-09-22 20:49:44
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Torrey Lyons wrote: > On or about Kendall Shaw 9/21/04 wrote: >> I wonder if copying /System/Library/Extensions/ATI* from MacOS X into >> opendarwin's filesystem would allow opendarwin to use ati's drivers. > > > Yes. This is often a good way to make sure you have the full working > drivers. Unfortunately, due to licensing constraints, some necessary > drivers can not be redistributed by anyone besides Apple. The result I get from doing this is that it says a link/load error occured for the kernel extension .../ATIRadeon8500. I also tried just copying over ATIRadeon8500.kext and ATITVOut.kext, and I had the same result. Incidentally, on panther I get com.apple.ATIRadeon8600 (3.2.8) and the ATI tvout bundle/module. On opendarwin as delivered, I don't get the ATI tvout extension and I get com.apple.ATIRadeon8500 (3.0.4). > Note that message described by Yves de Champlain is different: > >> Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc. >> Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. >> Display mode: IOKit >> Screen 0 added: 1440x900 @ (0,0) >> Discarding screen 1: >> Invalid width or height. > > > This is a typical message for a laptop. In this case one valid screen > was found (screen 0) and a second invalid screen was discarded. The > invalid screen is typically because the laptop could drive two displays, > but one display has nothing connected to it. I get the same except: Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0.0) Discarding screen 1: Invalid width or height unless I specify the -refresh and/or -size then it discards 0:. When it discards 1:, I get the root window and cursor, it looks like it is at an optimal resolution and refresh rate, but nothing from .xinitrc has been loaded. If I specify the resolution and refresh rate that I seem to be using under panther (-refresh 74.9 -size 1024 768), it discards :0 and I get a solid grey screen with no cursor, or if I specify another refresh rate and resolution, e..g -refresh 75 -size 1024 768, then the server apparently doesn't load and I'm back at the console. I was going to try again using darwin 7.0.1 instead of 7.2.1, but it doesn't recognize my USB keyboard/mouse or maybe it's my kvm switch that it's not recognizing, so I can't login to try, since I need to use my kvm switch. I also tried installing xorg from darwinports, but apparently it doesn't include an X server. Is there a server I can use with xorg darwinports? |
From: <pr...@gn...> - 2004-09-23 13:41:37
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On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: > -refresh 75 Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ \ / ---X--- / \ X -- Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- w--- !O M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e++++ h--- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
From: <pr...@gn...> - 2004-09-23 14:48:12
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On 23 Sep, To: Kendall Shaw wrote: > -refresh 75 And one more thing, I've had similar problem in the past. We need a protocol for setting the refresh rate as a kernel argument or in OF. Currently, it seems that you may be out of luck, if you have a flat panel at refresh 75. If anyone knows the workaround for this, please feel free to pass it along. Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ -- Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- w--- !O M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e++++ h--- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
From: Kendall S. <qu...@pa...> - 2004-09-23 16:36:18
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pr...@gn... wrote: > On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: > >>-refresh 75 > > > Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows visible. I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing, I just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of everything. I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of the xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm inside the area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute commands, e..g I was able to su to root and reboot. |
From: Yves de C. <yv...@gn...> - 2004-09-23 20:31:37
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the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console and do startx, what happens ? yves Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : > pr...@gn... wrote: >> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>> -refresh 75 >> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? > > I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of =20 > refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows visible. > > I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing, I =20= > just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of =20 > everything. > > I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of the =20= > xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm inside the =20 > area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute commands, e..g I was = =20 > able to su to root and reboot. > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwinos-users mailing list (Dar...@li...) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwinos-users/yves%40gnu-=20 > darwin.org > > This email sent to yv...@gn... > |
From: Kendall S. <qu...@pa...> - 2004-09-23 21:58:29
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Yves de Champlain wrote: > the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black >=20 > while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console > and do startx, what happens ? This is, using apples X11. If I login as root, start bash and do startx=20 I seem to get no window manager. The background is blue, and there is an=20 apple menu that does nothing. In my .xinitrc I have: twm & xterm & xterm An xterm appears iconified, when I open it, I get the placement cursor=20 which does nothing if I click on the background, but places the other=20 xterm, if I click while the cursor is over the other xterm. If I exit=20 all xterms, I'm dumped out to a solid blue background with the swirley=20 wait animation, and I'm stuck. I get the same result using startx -- -iokit, which I read someone=20 mentioning somewhere. > Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >=20 >> pr...@gn... wrote: >> >>> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>> >>>> -refresh 75 >>> >>> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? >> >> >> I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of =20 >> refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows visible. >> >> I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing, I =20 >> just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of =20 >> everything. >> >> I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of the = =20 >> xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm inside the =20 >> area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute commands, e..g I=20 >> was able to su to root and reboot. >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Darwinos-users mailing list (Dar...@li...) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwinos-users/yves%40gnu-=20 >> darwin.org >> >> This email sent to yv...@gn... >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 > Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on > who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. > Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php > _______________________________________________ > Gnu-darwin-distribution mailing list > Gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnu-darwin-distribution >=20 >=20 |
From: Yves de C. <yv...@gn...> - 2004-09-23 22:40:27
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I think you need XDarwin for that yves Le 04-09-23, =E0 18:03, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : > Yves de Champlain wrote: >> the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black >> while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console >> and do startx, what happens ? > > This is, using apples X11. If I login as root, start bash and do=20 > startx I seem to get no window manager. The background is blue, and=20 > there is an apple menu that does nothing. > > In my .xinitrc I have: > > twm & > xterm & > xterm > > An xterm appears iconified, when I open it, I get the placement cursor=20= > which does nothing if I click on the background, but places the other=20= > xterm, if I click while the cursor is over the other xterm. If I exit=20= > all xterms, I'm dumped out to a solid blue background with the swirley=20= > wait animation, and I'm stuck. > > I get the same result using startx -- -iokit, which I read someone=20 > mentioning somewhere. > >> Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>> pr...@gn... wrote: >>> >>>> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>>> >>>>> -refresh 75 >>>> >>>> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? >>> >>> >>> I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of =20= >>> refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows=20 >>> visible. >>> >>> I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing, I=20= >>> just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of =20 >>> everything. >>> >>> I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of=20 >>> the xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm inside=20= >>> the area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute commands,=20 >>> e..g I was able to su to root and reboot. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Darwinos-users mailing list (Dar...@li...) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwinos-users/yves%40gnu-=20 >>> darwin.org >>> >>> This email sent to yv...@gn... >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 >> Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement=20= >> on >> who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. >> Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnu-darwin-distribution mailing list >> Gnu...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnu-darwin-distribution > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 > Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement = on > who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. > Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php > _______________________________________________ > XonX-Users mailing list > Xon...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xonx-users > |
From: Kendall S. <qu...@pa...> - 2004-09-24 00:02:14
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Yves de Champlain wrote: > I think you need XDarwin for that Wow, it looks like it works. I copied over /System/Library/Keyboards=20 from opendarwin and ran: startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwin and I get a window manager, including it's background image. I tried=20 window maker and twm. However, when I exit the window manager, whatever=20 the background is left there and the swirly icon appears, and I'm stuck. If I try to run as my normal user, I get the default dimpled X=20 background, with no window manager. Before it starts, there is an error=20 message like: /tmp/.X11-unix should be owned by root. > Le 04-09-23, =E0 18:03, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >=20 >> Yves de Champlain wrote: >> >>> the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black >>> while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console >>> and do startx, what happens ? >> >> >> This is, using apples X11. If I login as root, start bash and do=20 >> startx I seem to get no window manager. The background is blue, and=20 >> there is an apple menu that does nothing. >> >> In my .xinitrc I have: >> >> twm & >> xterm & >> xterm >> >> An xterm appears iconified, when I open it, I get the placement cursor= =20 >> which does nothing if I click on the background, but places the other=20 >> xterm, if I click while the cursor is over the other xterm. If I exit=20 >> all xterms, I'm dumped out to a solid blue background with the swirley= =20 >> wait animation, and I'm stuck. >> >> I get the same result using startx -- -iokit, which I read someone=20 >> mentioning somewhere. >> >>> Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>> >>>> pr...@gn... wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> -refresh 75 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of =20 >>>> refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows visibl= e. >>>> >>>> I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing, I= =20 >>>> just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of =20 >>>> everything. >>>> >>>> I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of=20 >>>> the xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm inside=20 >>>> the area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute commands,=20 >>>> e..g I was able to su to root and reboot. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Darwinos-users mailing list (Dar...@li...) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwinos-users/yves%40gnu-=20 >>>> darwin.org >>>> >>>> This email sent to yv...@gn... >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 >>> Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement = on >>> who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. >>> Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnu-darwin-distribution mailing list >>> Gnu...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnu-darwin-distribution >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 >> Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement o= n >> who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. >> Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php >> _______________________________________________ >> XonX-Users mailing list >> Xon...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xonx-users >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 > Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on > who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. > Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php > _______________________________________________ > Gnu-darwin-distribution mailing list > Gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnu-darwin-distribution >=20 >=20 |
From: Yves de C. <yv...@gn...> - 2004-09-24 03:42:27
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Le 04-09-23, =E0 20:07, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : > Yves de Champlain wrote: >> I think you need XDarwin for that > > Wow, it looks like it works. I copied over /System/Library/Keyboards=20= > from opendarwin and ran: > > startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwin > > and I get a window manager, including it's background image. I tried=20= > window maker and twm. However, when I exit the window manager,=20 > whatever the background is left there and the swirly icon appears, and=20= > I'm stuck. Yes I remember, that was exactly the same for me So the problem is not with the hardware directly > > If I try to run as my normal user, I get the default dimpled X=20 > background, with no window manager. Before it starts, there is an=20 > error message like: /tmp/.X11-unix should be owned by root. I think this is a well-known issue from running X11.app and XDarwin but=20= I don't remember at all how to have it fixed ! Did you use XFree86-Darwin-ppc from GNU-Darwin ? Because on MacOSX,=20 you are expected to use XFree86-Panther yves > >> Le 04-09-23, =E0 18:03, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>> Yves de Champlain wrote: >>> >>>> the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black >>>> while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console >>>> and do startx, what happens ? >>> >>> >>> This is, using apples X11. If I login as root, start bash and do=20 >>> startx I seem to get no window manager. The background is blue, and=20= >>> there is an apple menu that does nothing. >>> >>> In my .xinitrc I have: >>> >>> twm & >>> xterm & >>> xterm >>> >>> An xterm appears iconified, when I open it, I get the placement=20 >>> cursor which does nothing if I click on the background, but places=20= >>> the other xterm, if I click while the cursor is over the other=20 >>> xterm. If I exit all xterms, I'm dumped out to a solid blue=20 >>> background with the swirley wait animation, and I'm stuck. >>> >>> I get the same result using startx -- -iokit, which I read someone=20= >>> mentioning somewhere. >>> >>>> Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>>> >>>>> pr...@gn... wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> -refresh 75 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of=20= >>>>> refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows=20 >>>>> visible. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed something new though. Apparently, an xterm is appearing,=20= >>>>> I just can't see it because there is solid grey over the top of =20= >>>>> everything. >>>>> >>>>> I get the mouse icon indicating that I should set the location of=20= >>>>> the xterm, and the mouse changes to the i-bar icon when I'm=20 >>>>> inside the area where the xterm is, and I am able to execute=20 >>>>> commands, e..g I was able to su to root and reboot. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Darwinos-users mailing list (Dar...@li...) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwinos-users/yves%40gnu-=20= >>>>> darwin.org >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to yv...@gn... >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. 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From: Kendall S. <qu...@pa...> - 2004-09-24 04:53:05
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Yves de Champlain wrote: >> Wow, it looks like it works. I copied over /System/Library/Keyboards=20 >> from opendarwin and ran: >> >> startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwin >> >> and I get a window manager, including it's background image. I tried=20 >> window maker and twm. However, when I exit the window manager,=20 >> whatever the background is left there and the swirly icon appears, and= =20 >> I'm stuck. >=20 >=20 > Yes I remember, that was exactly the same for me > So the problem is not with the hardware directly >=20 >> >> If I try to run as my normal user, I get the default dimpled X=20 >> background, with no window manager. Before it starts, there is an=20 >> error message like: /tmp/.X11-unix should be owned by root. >=20 >=20 > I think this is a well-known issue from running X11.app and XDarwin but= =20 > I don't remember at all how to have it fixed ! > Did you use XFree86-Darwin-ppc from GNU-Darwin ? Because on MacOSX, yo= u=20 > are expected to use XFree86-Panther It's the XDarwin that comes with apple's X11 from the panther CDs. Kendall >>> Le 04-09-23, =E0 18:03, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>> >>>> Yves de Champlain wrote: >>>> >>>>> the same behavior I had except my overscreen was black >>>>> while we're at it, if you log in macosx as >console >>>>> and do startx, what happens ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is, using apples X11. If I login as root, start bash and do=20 >>>> startx I seem to get no window manager. The background is blue, and=20 >>>> there is an apple menu that does nothing. >>>> >>>> In my .xinitrc I have: >>>> >>>> twm & >>>> xterm & >>>> xterm >>>> >>>> An xterm appears iconified, when I open it, I get the placement=20 >>>> cursor which does nothing if I click on the background, but places=20 >>>> the other xterm, if I click while the cursor is over the other=20 >>>> xterm. If I exit all xterms, I'm dumped out to a solid blue=20 >>>> background with the swirley wait animation, and I'm stuck. >>>> >>>> I get the same result using startx -- -iokit, which I read someone=20 >>>> mentioning somewhere. >>>> >>>>> Le 04-09-23, =E0 12:41, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : >>>>> >>>>>> pr...@gn... wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Sep, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -refresh 75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you tried leaving off the refresh argument? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the same result. Also, the screen looks perfect in terms of= =20 >>>>>> refresh rate and resolution, it's just that I have no windows=20 >>>>>> visible. >>>>>> >>>>>> I noticed something new though. 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From: Torrey L. <to...@mr...> - 2004-09-24 18:08:21
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At 11:42 PM -0400 9/23/04, Yves de Champlain wrote: >Le 04-09-23, =E0 20:07, Kendall Shaw a =E9crit : > >>Yves de Champlain wrote: >>>I think you need XDarwin for that >> >>Wow, it looks like it works. I copied over=20 >>/System/Library/Keyboards from opendarwin and=20 >>ran: >> >>startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwin >> >>and I get a window manager, including it's=20 >>background image. I tried window maker and twm.=20 >>However, when I exit the window manager,=20 >>whatever the background is left there and the=20 >>swirly icon appears, and I'm stuck. > >Yes I remember, that was exactly the same for me >So the problem is not with the hardware directly Yes, XDarwin is the only X server that supports=20 running from the text console. The problem you=20 are describing when you quit XDarwin is a known=20 issue. XDarwin releases the display, but the text=20 console does not begin drawing to it again.=20 However, the text console is receiving your=20 keystrokes, so you can type "exit" or "logout" to=20 get back to a login prompt. --Torrey |
From: <pr...@gn...> - 2004-09-24 18:20:01
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On 24 Sep, Torrey Lyons wrote: > However, the text console is receiving your > keystrokes, so you can type "exit" or "logout" to > get back to a login prompt. As an alternative, is not a bad idea to have a second computer for this. You can login with ssh and startx or xinit. If the window manager hangs, you can then kill it with a ctrl-C. To get back to the login prompt, kill the login job.... I think 'killall login' works for this now, but you might need to be root for that. OS X users might want to use extra caution with these tips ;-}. Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ -- Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- w--- !O M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e++++ h--- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |