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I am.
Abe
>===== Original Message From "Arnaldo Cavazos" <ar...@mi...> =====
>Hey guys,
>    I can't connect to WinJab.  I know Abhi is having the same issue.  Is 
anyone else?
>--Arnaldo

Hey guys,
    I can't connect to WinJab.  I know Abhi is having the same issue.  =
Is anyone else?
--Arnaldo

I sent this a long time ago.  Don't know why it's only coming through now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnaldo Cavazos" <ar...@mi...>
To: "ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>; "'abhishek
yuvraj bhatt '" <ay...@st...>; "'Radu Dram '"
<rd...@ly...>
Cc: "'naime '" <na...@st...>; "'aybhatt '" <ay...@ui...>;
"'naime '" <na...@ui...>; "'rdram '" <rd...@ma...>;
<m-h...@ui...>; <ro...@st...>;
<xml...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:44 AM
Subject: [xmlWiki-developers] Re: hello - cs329

> All,
>     Scheduling a meeting in the morning for that evening often doesn't
work.
> For example, I had to work yesterday, and when I got back, I received the
> email announcing the proposed meeting after it had already transpired.  :)
>     Let's (if all are willing) do this:  have an optional meeting on
> Wednesday (for anyone who can show up, mostly to make sure Jabber still
> works for everyone), and have an official meeting on Thursday night.  Last
> semester, our meeting time was typically 8PM CST (which is 9PM for you
east
> coast folk and 7PM for me).  Anyone up for the optional Wednesday,
official
> Thursday meeting proposal?
>     I am convinced that Abhi's proposal is right - we really need to have
a
> returning group member on each team for HW 1.  This is for two reasons:
>     a) for group unity - Radu, Abe & I already know each other.
>     b) for continuity's sake:  some of the issues each group needs to
tackle
> will already have been addressed.
>     Radu & Abe, is this OK, considering that you 2 were planning on
working
> together?  I can just work on whichever sub-group is left after each of
you
> chooses a team.
>     Hugo, for reference, the HW to which we refer is described at:
>         http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/329+Homework+1
>     Looking forward to working with each of you!
> --Arnaldo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>
> To: "'abhishek yuvraj bhatt '" <ay...@st...>; "'Radu Dram '"
> <rd...@ly...>
> Cc: "'Arnaldo Cavazos '" <ar...@mi...>; "ZILBER,LEONID
> (HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>; "'naime '"
> <na...@st...>; "'aybhatt '" <ay...@ui...>; "'naime '"
> <na...@ui...>; "'rdram '" <rd...@ma...>; <m-h...@ui...>;
> <ro...@st...>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:07 PM
> Subject: RE: hello - cs329
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > For some reasons the meeting didn't take place. Maybe we can arrange
> another
> > one tomorrow.
> >
> > Please, let us know everyone's username so we can communicate.
> >
> > Here is my background (0-3, 0 - beginner, 3 - professional)
> >
> > Java - 3
> > C    - 3
> > C++  - 2
> > XML  - 2
> > ClearCase - 2
> > PhP - 2
> > JDBC - 3
> > Servlet - 2
> > PKI - 2
> > COM+ - 2
> >
> > XP - 0 (in my previous Unix lab we reached maturity level 4 or 5 I
> believe,
> > necessary when writing Operating System and used very old prototyping
> model)
> >
> > RUP - 0
> >
> > I was working as a Kernel Engineer, writing HP-UX OS for 2.5 years,
> > responsible for Kernel Configuration commands and later for DLKM
> > (Dynamically Loadable Modules infrastructure, UNIX correspondence to
> windows
> > plug-in-play)
> >
> > Now, I am involved with two projects Security w/ VeriSign and another
one
> > deals with Business Recovery for hpux servers.
> >
> > Since, there are no people on part 1 of assignment 1, I'd like to join
> Abhi
> > to be responsible for part I of assignment I.
> >
> > Thank you and looking forward to hear from you all soon.
> >
> > Leon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt
> > To: Radu Dram
> > Cc: Arnaldo Cavazos; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); naime; aybhatt;
> > naime; rdram; m-h...@ui...; ro...@st...
> > Sent: 1/28/02 9:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: hello - cs329
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I am one of the new members on the team. I am a software engineer with
> > Emerson Electric in houston, TX.
> >
> > I am proficient in C, C++, communications and mainly embedded
> > technolgies.
> >
> > I do have a good working knowledge of CVS. So i would like to work on
> > the
> > CVS aspect. However, i am here on the team and i would be more than
> > willing to pitch in for anything the team may need.
> >
> > As far as the homework is concerned, i would prefer to be on the 1st
> > team
> > since we already have 2 people working on the 2nd team.
> >
> > Regards
> > Abhi
> >  On Mon, 28 Jan 2002,
> > Radu Dram wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, guys.
> > >
> > > First of all, let's try to meet on Jabber tonight 8 PM CST to talk
> > about our project for 20 minutes. Then we can talk about our homework.
> > > For the new guys, could please introduce yourself and indicate what
> > it's your proficiency with Java, XML, J2EE, Tomcat,CVS.
> > >
> > > As for homework,I(Radu) paired with Abe. But if you guys feel that it
> > would be more helpful to have 1 old member(from CS327) in each
> > group,that is totally fine.Please indicate your preference for
> > HW(team1,team2 or team3).
> > >
> > > My preference strongly would be team 2 since in the old project I
> > spent all the time using CVS as version control and merging tool.
> > >
> > > Please let us know ASAP. I will try to contact Hugo. Arnaldo or Abe,
> > any luck with Hugo?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Radu
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:59:42
> > >  ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1) wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I am just wondering maybe we should have some kind of meeting/chat
> > session
> > > >since we have a homework in about a week or so.
> > > >
> > > >Please, advise what to do.
> > > >
> > > >Thank you,
> > > >Leon
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt [mailto:ay...@st...]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:05 AM
> > > >To: Arnaldo Cavazos
> > > >Cc: naime; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); aybhatt; naime; rdram;
> > > >xml...@li...; m-h...@ui...;
> > > >ro...@st...
> > > >Subject: Re: hello - cs329
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > >I am a new student at UIC and this is my very first class. I am a
> > firmware
> > > >engineer for Emerson Electic in Houston, TX. I believe Arnaldo, Abe,
> > and
> > > >Radu are continuing on the XML wiki project from CS327. I'have taken
> > a
> > > >look at the project briefly and the pointers you've provided to the
> > > >material for this project should definitely help. For our homework#1,
> > i
> > > >suggest we split our team in such a way so that we have a returning
> > person
> > > >on each group. When should we have our first meeting ?
> > > >
> > > >Looking forward to working with all of you.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Abhi
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Welcome, Leon, Sumantra, Bhatt, and Michael!
> > > >>
> > > >> > >1. What is xmlWiki?
> > > >> > >2. What do we do with it?
> > > >> We started the project last semester, and are continuing it this
> > semester.
> > > >> To get spun up on the project you might want to check out our
> > synopsis
> > > >> document from last semester, attached to this email.  Also the site
> > > >> http://24.178.71.65:8080/cs327 describes our project in detail.
> > > >> BTW, I think that http://www.extremeprogramming.org is one of the
> > best
> > > >> concise descriptions of XP.  Also, we should be able to answer some
> > of
> > > >your
> > > >> questions about XP.
> > > >>
> > > >> > >3. What our goals for this semester?
> > > >> Last semester groups were graded on:
> > > >> a) How closely your group followed the process (XP, in our case)
> > > >> b) The quality of the artifacts (including code)
> > > >> c) An adjustment based on your individual contribution (if need
> > be).
> > > >> For more info, see
> > > >> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/Fall+2001+Project+Policies
> > > >> I think that the grading criteria this semester will probably be
> > the same.
> > > >> How closely we follow the XP process is weighted *much* more
> > heavily than
> > > >> the quality of the final artifacts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Look forward to working with you!
> > > >> --Arnaldo
> > > >>
> > > >> p.s.  One thing for all group members:  Now that I have a job
> > (well, an
> > > >> internship) I'm in front of a lot of different terminals at a lot
> > of
> > > >> different times.  For this reason, always send any mail you want me
> > to
> > > >> receive to Arn...@ya...  Even if I send you mail from a
> > > >different
> > > >> address, the yahoo address is the one I'll be able to check from
> > anywhere
> > > >> (though it's sort of a pain to reply from).
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > >4. How will we work together, especially that we are all remote
> > > >students?
> > > >> > http://winjab.sourceforge.net/files.php3, we will explain how to
> > > >configure
> > > >> > latter.). Phone for PairProgramming. Email, netmeeting,... None
> > has
> > > >> proposed
> > > >> > video conference yet! :-)
> > > >> > >5. Homework #1 is available now, how will we divide into
> > subteams?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Hamman=20
To: Arnaldo Cavazos ; ro...@st... ; su...@at...=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS 329 group project

Dear Arnaldo and Sumantra,

I apologize for not being in communication!  I have been extremely =
swamped with other things and will likely have to audit the course, as =
much as I would like to be more involved.  I had hoped to clear some =
time to work on this homework, but I just can't.  Could I still be =
included in the group emails so that I can at least see what people are =
doing with the projects? =20

Again, many apologies.

Best regards,
Michael
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Arnaldo Cavazos=20
  To: ro...@st... ; m-h...@ui... ; su...@at...=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:13 PM
  Subject: CS 329 group project

  Michael & Sumantra,
      Hey there.  My name is Arnaldo Cavazos, and I'm assigned to the =
same group project as you in CS 329.
      Well, HW1 is due next Thursday (really we should turn it in =
Wednesday night), and the group has assigned teams and discussed =
strategies for configuration management.  You two are assigned to my =
team, which will be reviewing the other documents and describing how to =
perform a configuration audit.
      Please contact me so that we can get started, and so we can get =
you set up with a Jabber account and put on our project group mailing =
list!  As I said, the assignment should be in by Wednesday of next week, =
so the sooner we do this, the better
  --Arnaldo Cavazos

Hi, guys.

FOr those interested, here there are some useful CVS commands that show how to utilize the version control system set up by group 1(first bullet for team2).I also attached the new file(initial one provided by Abe + CVS commands).

1. Checkout all the files in the current directory(in this case xmlwiki):
cvs -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki checkout xmlwiki

Checkout a branch from repository:
cvs -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki checkout r rel-2 xmlwiki

2. Commit a files in the repository:
cvs -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki commit TestWiki.java

Merge the change changes made on a branch into your working copy:
cvs -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki update -j 1.2.2.2  TestWiki.java

3. View differences between a given revision and the local copy for a given file:
cvs -d:ext:rd...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki diff  -r 1.7 build.xml

4. Add a new file to the repository:
cvs -d:ext:rd...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki add src/org/xmlwiki/NewStory.java

5. Create a branch based on the current revisions in the working copy:
cvs -d:ext:rd...@cv...:/cvsroot/xmlwiki tag b rel-1

All,
    Here are a few items to discuss tonight.  Hopefully these will take ~5
minutes apiece.
1. Give project access to Abhi and Leon on sourceforge.net for xmlWiki
development. Who and When? Very high priority.
2.  Update on Sumantra and Michael (MIA)
3. HW1.
    -questions and clarifications on what was covered in last Thursday's
meeting (does everyone have a log?)
    - Are documents 1 and 2 ready?
    - any configuration audit questions?
    -schedule for turning in HW1
    - Are we going to submit one document for our project team or are we
going to have each subgroup submit their own work?
4. Other concerns raised:
    -Roles revisited. Are we going to keep the same roles? Or would we
benefit from changing responsibilities?  Who is going to play CM role. Who
will do Jim's work?
    -Other concerns by Abe:  Are we going to check in compilers, tomcat and
other libraries.  (If so we need a directory for those files. What is a good
name for the directory?  We currently have source code and test code all
mangled in one directory.  Johnson recommends that test code should be in
subdirectory of the src directory and be named test.  Current subdirectory
where wikiXSL.xsl resides is not meaningful. We should move to a new
directory, probably xmlWiki-config.

Abhi and Leon,

Please register with http://sourceforge.net/account/register.php before 
tonight's meeting, so we can add you to the xmlWiki project.

Regards,
Abe

Ah the irony...  Just as I got done saying everything was fine with the
Jabber server, @home (now our area is Insight actually) had to pull some
tricks.  I've had a static IP address up until this point, but they will
begin requiring DHCP on Feb 15th.  This isn't a death knell for the Jabber,
but it could be.  Here's the deal...  The jabber will stay running as
always, and I've written a little script which posts the current IP address
to my UIUC web page  (http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jkalafut/ip.html).  I
actually have the DHCP service running now and it fetched the same IP
address as before, so you guys are still fine.  While I can't be sure, I'd
expect a possible change on or around the 15th, and then it should stay
steady for the most part.  I've used some DHCP stuff before and it seems to
keep the IPs for active connections pretty stable.  So, just a heads up...
If you get an error about not being able to connect, check the above web
page.  If they actually end up changing the IPs frequently (which would
suck), then you may be hunting for another chat alternative since it will
become too much of pain.

Later,
Jim

Since it seems like the jabber is working alright, I'm going to sign off
from this mailing list now.  If you need to get a hold of me, please write
directly to  ka...@ie....

Good luck with the project.

Jim

                    "Arnaldo Cavazos"                                                                                
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All,
    In last night's meeting, we decided (unless there are objections from
those who could't be there last night) that we'd resume regular meeting
times at 8PM CST Mondays and Thursday.
    Just so everyone knows.
:)
--Arnaldo

All,   =20
    In last night's meeting, we decided (unless there are objections =
from those who could't be there last night) that we'd resume regular =
meeting times at 8PM CST Mondays and Thursday.
    Just so everyone knows.
:)
--Arnaldo

Folks,
    For some reason, I'm having trouble logging onto WinJab.  Something =
about SSL Libraries.  Working on it.  Just wanted all to know I didn't =
forget about tonight's meeting.
--Arnaldo

Hi, guys.

I agree with Abhi and Arnaldo to split "the old guard"(I, Abe and Arnaldo), one in each team.

As I said before, I prefer to work on group no.2(version and changes control) since I spent all my time with CVS as version control.
Please let me know who would like to work with me in this HW.

Let's plan on meeting on Jabber tonight 8PM CST.

Thanks.

Radu
---

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:44:37  
 Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>All,
>    Scheduling a meeting in the morning for that evening often doesn't work.
>For example, I had to work yesterday, and when I got back, I received the
>email announcing the proposed meeting after it had already transpired.  :)
>    Let's (if all are willing) do this:  have an optional meeting on
>Wednesday (for anyone who can show up, mostly to make sure Jabber still
>works for everyone), and have an official meeting on Thursday night.  Last
>semester, our meeting time was typically 8PM CST (which is 9PM for you east
>coast folk and 7PM for me).  Anyone up for the optional Wednesday, official
>Thursday meeting proposal?
>    I am convinced that Abhi's proposal is right - we really need to have a
>returning group member on each team for HW 1.  This is for two reasons:
>    a) for group unity - Radu, Abe & I already know each other.
>    b) for continuity's sake:  some of the issues each group needs to tackle
>will already have been addressed.
>    Radu & Abe, is this OK, considering that you 2 were planning on working
>together?  I can just work on whichever sub-group is left after each of you
>chooses a team.
>    Hugo, for reference, the HW to which we refer is described at:
>        http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/329+Homework+1
>    Looking forward to working with each of you!
>--Arnaldo
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>
>To: "'abhishek yuvraj bhatt '" <ay...@st...>; "'Radu Dram '"
><rd...@ly...>
>Cc: "'Arnaldo Cavazos '" <ar...@mi...>; "ZILBER,LEONID
>(HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>; "'naime '"
><na...@st...>; "'aybhatt '" <ay...@ui...>; "'naime '"
><na...@ui...>; "'rdram '" <rd...@ma...>; <m-h...@ui...>;
><ro...@st...>
>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:07 PM
>Subject: RE: hello - cs329
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> For some reasons the meeting didn't take place. Maybe we can arrange
>another
>> one tomorrow.
>>
>> Please, let us know everyone's username so we can communicate.
>>
>> Here is my background (0-3, 0 - beginner, 3 - professional)
>>
>> Java - 3
>> C    - 3
>> C++  - 2
>> XML  - 2
>> ClearCase - 2
>> PhP - 2
>> JDBC - 3
>> Servlet - 2
>> PKI - 2
>> COM+ - 2
>>
>> XP - 0 (in my previous Unix lab we reached maturity level 4 or 5 I
>believe,
>> necessary when writing Operating System and used very old prototyping
>model)
>>
>> RUP - 0
>>
>> I was working as a Kernel Engineer, writing HP-UX OS for 2.5 years,
>> responsible for Kernel Configuration commands and later for DLKM
>> (Dynamically Loadable Modules infrastructure, UNIX correspondence to
>windows
>> plug-in-play)
>>
>> Now, I am involved with two projects Security w/ VeriSign and another one
>> deals with Business Recovery for hpux servers.
>>
>> Since, there are no people on part 1 of assignment 1, I'd like to join
>Abhi
>> to be responsible for part I of assignment I.
>>
>> Thank you and looking forward to hear from you all soon.
>>
>> Leon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt
>> To: Radu Dram
>> Cc: Arnaldo Cavazos; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); naime; aybhatt;
>> naime; rdram; m-h...@ui...; ro...@st...
>> Sent: 1/28/02 9:16 PM
>> Subject: RE: hello - cs329
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I am one of the new members on the team. I am a software engineer with
>> Emerson Electric in houston, TX.
>>
>> I am proficient in C, C++, communications and mainly embedded
>> technolgies.
>>
>> I do have a good working knowledge of CVS. So i would like to work on
>> the
>> CVS aspect. However, i am here on the team and i would be more than
>> willing to pitch in for anything the team may need.
>>
>> As far as the homework is concerned, i would prefer to be on the 1st
>> team
>> since we already have 2 people working on the 2nd team.
>>
>> Regards
>> Abhi
>>  On Mon, 28 Jan 2002,
>> Radu Dram wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, guys.
>> >
>> > First of all, let's try to meet on Jabber tonight 8 PM CST to talk
>> about our project for 20 minutes. Then we can talk about our homework.
>> > For the new guys, could please introduce yourself and indicate what
>> it's your proficiency with Java, XML, J2EE, Tomcat,CVS.
>> >
>> > As for homework,I(Radu) paired with Abe. But if you guys feel that it
>> would be more helpful to have 1 old member(from CS327) in each
>> group,that is totally fine.Please indicate your preference for
>> HW(team1,team2 or team3).
>> >
>> > My preference strongly would be team 2 since in the old project I
>> spent all the time using CVS as version control and merging tool.
>> >
>> > Please let us know ASAP. I will try to contact Hugo. Arnaldo or Abe,
>> any luck with Hugo?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Radu
>> > ---
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:59:42
>> >  ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1) wrote:
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >I am just wondering maybe we should have some kind of meeting/chat
>> session
>> > >since we have a homework in about a week or so.
>> > >
>> > >Please, advise what to do.
>> > >
>> > >Thank you,
>> > >Leon
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt [mailto:ay...@st...]
>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:05 AM
>> > >To: Arnaldo Cavazos
>> > >Cc: naime; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); aybhatt; naime; rdram;
>> > >xml...@li...; m-h...@ui...;
>> > >ro...@st...
>> > >Subject: Re: hello - cs329
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hello everyone,
>> > >
>> > >I am a new student at UIC and this is my very first class. I am a
>> firmware
>> > >engineer for Emerson Electic in Houston, TX. I believe Arnaldo, Abe,
>> and
>> > >Radu are continuing on the XML wiki project from CS327. I'have taken
>> a
>> > >look at the project briefly and the pointers you've provided to the
>> > >material for this project should definitely help. For our homework#1,
>> i
>> > >suggest we split our team in such a way so that we have a returning
>> person
>> > >on each group. When should we have our first meeting ?
>> > >
>> > >Looking forward to working with all of you.
>> > >
>> > >Regards
>> > >Abhi
>> > >
>> > >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Welcome, Leon, Sumantra, Bhatt, and Michael!
>> > >>
>> > >> > >1. What is xmlWiki?
>> > >> > >2. What do we do with it?
>> > >> We started the project last semester, and are continuing it this
>> semester.
>> > >> To get spun up on the project you might want to check out our
>> synopsis
>> > >> document from last semester, attached to this email.  Also the site
>> > >> http://24.178.71.65:8080/cs327 describes our project in detail.
>> > >> BTW, I think that http://www.extremeprogramming.org is one of the
>> best
>> > >> concise descriptions of XP.  Also, we should be able to answer some
>> of
>> > >your
>> > >> questions about XP.
>> > >>
>> > >> > >3. What our goals for this semester?
>> > >> Last semester groups were graded on:
>> > >> a) How closely your group followed the process (XP, in our case)
>> > >> b) The quality of the artifacts (including code)
>> > >> c) An adjustment based on your individual contribution (if need
>> be).
>> > >> For more info, see
>> > >> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/Fall+2001+Project+Policies
>> > >> I think that the grading criteria this semester will probably be
>> the same.
>> > >> How closely we follow the XP process is weighted *much* more
>> heavily than
>> > >> the quality of the final artifacts.
>> > >>
>> > >> Look forward to working with you!
>> > >> --Arnaldo
>> > >>
>> > >> p.s.  One thing for all group members:  Now that I have a job
>> (well, an
>> > >> internship) I'm in front of a lot of different terminals at a lot
>> of
>> > >> different times.  For this reason, always send any mail you want me
>> to
>> > >> receive to Arn...@ya...  Even if I send you mail from a
>> > >different
>> > >> address, the yahoo address is the one I'll be able to check from
>> anywhere
>> > >> (though it's sort of a pain to reply from).
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > >4. How will we work together, especially that we are all remote
>> > >students?
>> > >> > http://winjab.sourceforge.net/files.php3, we will explain how to
>> > >configure
>> > >> > latter.). Phone for PairProgramming. Email, netmeeting,... None
>> has
>> > >> proposed
>> > >> > video conference yet! :-)
>> > >> > >5. Homework #1 is available now, how will we divide into
>> subteams?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>
>

All,
    Scheduling a meeting in the morning for that evening often doesn't work.
For example, I had to work yesterday, and when I got back, I received the
email announcing the proposed meeting after it had already transpired.  :)
    Let's (if all are willing) do this:  have an optional meeting on
Wednesday (for anyone who can show up, mostly to make sure Jabber still
works for everyone), and have an official meeting on Thursday night.  Last
semester, our meeting time was typically 8PM CST (which is 9PM for you east
coast folk and 7PM for me).  Anyone up for the optional Wednesday, official
Thursday meeting proposal?
    I am convinced that Abhi's proposal is right - we really need to have a
returning group member on each team for HW 1.  This is for two reasons:
    a) for group unity - Radu, Abe & I already know each other.
    b) for continuity's sake:  some of the issues each group needs to tackle
will already have been addressed.
    Radu & Abe, is this OK, considering that you 2 were planning on working
together?  I can just work on whichever sub-group is left after each of you
chooses a team.
    Hugo, for reference, the HW to which we refer is described at:
        http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/329+Homework+1
    Looking forward to working with each of you!
--Arnaldo

----- Original Message -----
From: "ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>
To: "'abhishek yuvraj bhatt '" <ay...@st...>; "'Radu Dram '"
<rd...@ly...>
Cc: "'Arnaldo Cavazos '" <ar...@mi...>; "ZILBER,LEONID
(HP-NewJersey,ex1)" <leo...@hp...>; "'naime '"
<na...@st...>; "'aybhatt '" <ay...@ui...>; "'naime '"
<na...@ui...>; "'rdram '" <rd...@ma...>; <m-h...@ui...>;
<ro...@st...>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: hello - cs329

> Hi guys,
>
> For some reasons the meeting didn't take place. Maybe we can arrange
another
> one tomorrow.
>
> Please, let us know everyone's username so we can communicate.
>
> Here is my background (0-3, 0 - beginner, 3 - professional)
>
> Java - 3
> C    - 3
> C++  - 2
> XML  - 2
> ClearCase - 2
> PhP - 2
> JDBC - 3
> Servlet - 2
> PKI - 2
> COM+ - 2
>
> XP - 0 (in my previous Unix lab we reached maturity level 4 or 5 I
believe,
> necessary when writing Operating System and used very old prototyping
model)
>
> RUP - 0
>
> I was working as a Kernel Engineer, writing HP-UX OS for 2.5 years,
> responsible for Kernel Configuration commands and later for DLKM
> (Dynamically Loadable Modules infrastructure, UNIX correspondence to
windows
> plug-in-play)
>
> Now, I am involved with two projects Security w/ VeriSign and another one
> deals with Business Recovery for hpux servers.
>
> Since, there are no people on part 1 of assignment 1, I'd like to join
Abhi
> to be responsible for part I of assignment I.
>
> Thank you and looking forward to hear from you all soon.
>
> Leon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt
> To: Radu Dram
> Cc: Arnaldo Cavazos; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); naime; aybhatt;
> naime; rdram; m-h...@ui...; ro...@st...
> Sent: 1/28/02 9:16 PM
> Subject: RE: hello - cs329
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I am one of the new members on the team. I am a software engineer with
> Emerson Electric in houston, TX.
>
> I am proficient in C, C++, communications and mainly embedded
> technolgies.
>
> I do have a good working knowledge of CVS. So i would like to work on
> the
> CVS aspect. However, i am here on the team and i would be more than
> willing to pitch in for anything the team may need.
>
> As far as the homework is concerned, i would prefer to be on the 1st
> team
> since we already have 2 people working on the 2nd team.
>
> Regards
> Abhi
>  On Mon, 28 Jan 2002,
> Radu Dram wrote:
>
> > Hi, guys.
> >
> > First of all, let's try to meet on Jabber tonight 8 PM CST to talk
> about our project for 20 minutes. Then we can talk about our homework.
> > For the new guys, could please introduce yourself and indicate what
> it's your proficiency with Java, XML, J2EE, Tomcat,CVS.
> >
> > As for homework,I(Radu) paired with Abe. But if you guys feel that it
> would be more helpful to have 1 old member(from CS327) in each
> group,that is totally fine.Please indicate your preference for
> HW(team1,team2 or team3).
> >
> > My preference strongly would be team 2 since in the old project I
> spent all the time using CVS as version control and merging tool.
> >
> > Please let us know ASAP. I will try to contact Hugo. Arnaldo or Abe,
> any luck with Hugo?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Radu
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:59:42
> >  ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1) wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I am just wondering maybe we should have some kind of meeting/chat
> session
> > >since we have a homework in about a week or so.
> > >
> > >Please, advise what to do.
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >Leon
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: abhishek yuvraj bhatt [mailto:ay...@st...]
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:05 AM
> > >To: Arnaldo Cavazos
> > >Cc: naime; ZILBER,LEONID (HP-NewJersey,ex1); aybhatt; naime; rdram;
> > >xml...@li...; m-h...@ui...;
> > >ro...@st...
> > >Subject: Re: hello - cs329
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >I am a new student at UIC and this is my very first class. I am a
> firmware
> > >engineer for Emerson Electic in Houston, TX. I believe Arnaldo, Abe,
> and
> > >Radu are continuing on the XML wiki project from CS327. I'have taken
> a
> > >look at the project briefly and the pointers you've provided to the
> > >material for this project should definitely help. For our homework#1,
> i
> > >suggest we split our team in such a way so that we have a returning
> person
> > >on each group. When should we have our first meeting ?
> > >
> > >Looking forward to working with all of you.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Abhi
> > >
> > >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
> > >
> > >> Welcome, Leon, Sumantra, Bhatt, and Michael!
> > >>
> > >> > >1. What is xmlWiki?
> > >> > >2. What do we do with it?
> > >> We started the project last semester, and are continuing it this
> semester.
> > >> To get spun up on the project you might want to check out our
> synopsis
> > >> document from last semester, attached to this email.  Also the site
> > >> http://24.178.71.65:8080/cs327 describes our project in detail.
> > >> BTW, I think that http://www.extremeprogramming.org is one of the
> best
> > >> concise descriptions of XP.  Also, we should be able to answer some
> of
> > >your
> > >> questions about XP.
> > >>
> > >> > >3. What our goals for this semester?
> > >> Last semester groups were graded on:
> > >> a) How closely your group followed the process (XP, in our case)
> > >> b) The quality of the artifacts (including code)
> > >> c) An adjustment based on your individual contribution (if need
> be).
> > >> For more info, see
> > >> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/Fall+2001+Project+Policies
> > >> I think that the grading criteria this semester will probably be
> the same.
> > >> How closely we follow the XP process is weighted *much* more
> heavily than
> > >> the quality of the final artifacts.
> > >>
> > >> Look forward to working with you!
> > >> --Arnaldo
> > >>
> > >> p.s.  One thing for all group members:  Now that I have a job
> (well, an
> > >> internship) I'm in front of a lot of different terminals at a lot
> of
> > >> different times.  For this reason, always send any mail you want me
> to
> > >> receive to Arn...@ya...  Even if I send you mail from a
> > >different
> > >> address, the yahoo address is the one I'll be able to check from
> anywhere
> > >> (though it's sort of a pain to reply from).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > >4. How will we work together, especially that we are all remote
> > >students?
> > >> > http://winjab.sourceforge.net/files.php3, we will explain how to
> > >configure
> > >> > latter.). Phone for PairProgramming. Email, netmeeting,... None
> has
> > >> proposed
> > >> > video conference yet! :-)
> > >> > >5. Homework #1 is available now, how will we divide into
> subteams?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >

Good idea.
My phone is (505) 792-1896.
--Arnaldo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugo Garcia" <xm...@ne...>
To: <xml...@li...>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: [xmlWiki-developers] Telephone List

> Is it possible to compile a telephone list?
> 
> My phone is 212.988.4332.
> 
> -H
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> xmlWiki-developers mailing list
> xml...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlwiki-developers

Is it possible to compile a telephone list?

My phone is 212.988.4332.

-H

Jim is right.

I sent and email to see who wants to do the sourceforge thing. I can do 
it but it really should be one of you doing it.

-H

Kal...@ca... wrote:

> Abe,
> 
> Not sure what you mean.  You really don't  need to create new users for the
> jabber since it is an open forum that anyone can sign on to.  If you mean
> on Sourceforge, I think Hugo needs to delegate admin rights to one of you
> which will then let you add new accounts.  I probably only have time for
> minimal help with anything, namely because CS333 is moving very quickly and
> I'm not well prepared for the class as is.
> 
> Regards,
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                                                 
>                     naime                                                                       
>                     <naime@students        To:     "James J. Kalafut"                           
>                     .uiuc.edu>             <Kal...@no...>                      
>                                            cc:                                                  
>                     01/28/2002             Subject:     RE: [xmlWiki-developers] Jabber         
>                     01:37 PM                                                                    
>                                                                                                 
>                                                                                                 
> 
> 
> 
> Caterpillar: Confidential Green          Retain Until: 02/27/2002
>                                          Retention Category:  G90 -
>                                          Information and Reports
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Jim,
> Yes, we have not had a meeting yet. But I was able to visit log on with no
> problem.
> We neeed to creat new users. Do you think you can help ws? OR, can we do it
> 
> remotely?
> Regards,
> Abe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> xmlWiki-developers mailing list
> xml...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlwiki-developers
> 

Abe,

Not sure what you mean.  You really don't  need to create new users for the
jabber since it is an open forum that anyone can sign on to.  If you mean
on Sourceforge, I think Hugo needs to delegate admin rights to one of you
which will then let you add new accounts.  I probably only have time for
minimal help with anything, namely because CS333 is moving very quickly and
I'm not well prepared for the class as is.

Regards,
Jim

                    naime                                                                       
                    <naime@students        To:     "James J. Kalafut"                           
                    .uiuc.edu>             <Kal...@no...>                      
                                           cc:                                                  
                    01/28/2002             Subject:     RE: [xmlWiki-developers] Jabber         
                    01:37 PM                                                                    

Caterpillar: Confidential Green          Retain Until: 02/27/2002
                                         Retention Category:  G90 -
                                         Information and Reports

Hi Jim,
Yes, we have not had a meeting yet. But I was able to visit log on with no
problem.
We neeed to creat new users. Do you think you can help ws? OR, can we do it

remotely?
Regards,
Abe

Hi all

Hope you had a good break. I would like to know where are we now. I 
would also like to know who would like to have admin rights to the 
projects website on SourceForge? There are some admin stuff that has to 
be done there and I think it is time one of you take the responsobility. 
Also, during the break i played around with the code on a separate 
branch in CVS. I would like to hear your comments on it.

regards,

Hugo

Abe,

The jabber server has never kept discussion logs.  I've always waited until
the end of the meeting and then copied the Winjab window to the clipboard
(right-click -> copy).  That text is in HTML and I save it to a file to be
uploaded on Sourceforge.  So really anyone who's around for the whole
meeting can do the same thing.

I'm running Jabber server version 1.4.1., which was the latest when we
started.

BTW, has it been working?

Regards,
Jim

                    naime                                                                       
                    <naime@students        To:     "James J. Kalafut"                           
                    .uiuc.edu>             <Kal...@no...>                      
                                           cc:                                                  
                    01/28/2002             Subject:     RE: [xmlWiki-developers] Jabber         
                    01:16 PM                                                                    

Caterpillar: Confidential Green          Retain Until: 02/27/2002
                                         Retention Category:  G90 -
                                         Information and Reports

Jim,

Thank you for running hte Jabber server. I have the following logistic
concerns: since jabber sometimes misbehaves, the server is the only place
we
can go for meeting logs. How are we going to access those? Will you have to

post those for us? And won't it be a too much trouble, if you have to deal
with it?

What version of the server are you currently running?
Regards,
Abe

>===== Original Message From "James J. Kalafut" <Kal...@ca...>
=====
>>specially with Jim's departure, we could have a meeting to figure out how
>we are going to
>>proceed, including decide if we will keep the project alive, CVS, a
jabber
>server
>>among all the other things.
>
>I'm still on the xmlWiki mailing list so I got your latest post.  Just to
>reiterate, make setting up a new jabber your absolute lowest priority!  My
>linux box is humming along fine, I haven't touched it in months and don't
>plan to do so for months.  Even if I decided to make any changes that
would
>impact you, I'd give you all plenty of advance notice.  Seems like there
>are plenty of other activities you'll need to worry about besides screwing
>around with a jabber server.
>
>Regards,
>Jim
>
>P.S.  Has access to the CS329 page/lectures been clunky for you all?
>Everything I try to get at on CS333 is really slow, and most of the time
>the lectures don't work because the connection is so bad.
>
>
>================================
> Jim Kalafut
> Research Engineer
> Caterpillar, Inc.
>
> Voice: 309-578-4337
> Fax:   309-578-4277
> Email: kal...@ca...
>================================
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>xmlWiki-developers mailing list
>xml...@li...
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlwiki-developers

Hello everyone,

I am a new student at UIC and this is my very first class. I am a firmware
engineer for Emerson Electic in Houston, TX. I believe Arnaldo, Abe, and
Radu are continuing on the XML wiki project from CS327. I'have taken a
look at the project briefly and the pointers you've provided to the
material for this project should definitely help. For our homework#1, i
suggest we split our team in such a way so that we have a returning person
on each group. When should we have our first meeting ?

Looking forward to working with all of you.

Regards
Abhi

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:

> Welcome, Leon, Sumantra, Bhatt, and Michael!
>
> > >1. What is xmlWiki?
> > >2. What do we do with it?
> We started the project last semester, and are continuing it this semester.
> To get spun up on the project you might want to check out our synopsis
> document from last semester, attached to this email.  Also the site
> http://24.178.71.65:8080/cs327 describes our project in detail.
> BTW, I think that http://www.extremeprogramming.org is one of the best
> concise descriptions of XP.  Also, we should be able to answer some of your
> questions about XP.
>
> > >3. What our goals for this semester?
> Last semester groups were graded on:
> a) How closely your group followed the process (XP, in our case)
> b) The quality of the artifacts (including code)
> c) An adjustment based on your individual contribution (if need be).
> For more info, see
> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/Fall+2001+Project+Policies
> I think that the grading criteria this semester will probably be the same.
> How closely we follow the XP process is weighted *much* more heavily than
> the quality of the final artifacts.
>
> Look forward to working with you!
> --Arnaldo
>
> p.s.  One thing for all group members:  Now that I have a job (well, an
> internship) I'm in front of a lot of different terminals at a lot of
> different times.  For this reason, always send any mail you want me to
> receive to Arn...@ya...  Even if I send you mail from a different
> address, the yahoo address is the one I'll be able to check from anywhere
> (though it's sort of a pain to reply from).
>
>
> > >4. How will we work together, especially that we are all remote students?
> > http://winjab.sourceforge.net/files.php3, we will explain how to configure
> > latter.). Phone for PairProgramming. Email, netmeeting,... None has
> proposed
> > video conference yet! :-)
> > >5. Homework #1 is available now, how will we divide into subteams?
>
>

I am sorry for not attending yesterday's meeting, if one was held. I had an 
eye doctor appointment late afternoon and could not read for several hours, 
due to eye dilation. (this email should have gone out before the meeting, but 
yesterday was too busy)
Regards,
Abe

>===== Original Message From rd...@ly... =====
>Hi, guys.
>
>Is there any plan to meet tonight at 8PM CST?
>Please let me know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Radu
>---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:52:40
> Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>>Radu,
>>    Is the home page still up?   What's the URL?
>>    I think that the best thing to do is to direct them to the homepage and
>>tell them to email us with any questions.  And tell them that XMLWiki is the
>>project to join; be there or be square!
>>    I forget...what time are we meeting on Monday?  As Johnson said in
>>yesterday's lecture, groups should get started ASAP!
>>--Arnaldo
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Radu Dram" <rd...@ly...>
>>To: "naime" <na...@st...>; "Abolade Olaniyi"
>><bo...@ho...>; "Arnaldo Cavazos" <ar...@mi...>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:55 AM
>>Subject: Re: A restart for xmlWiki
>>
>>
>>> Hi, guys.
>>>
>>> I am definitely for xmlWiki. Arnaldo is right, we are 5 out of 8 which is
>>not bad comparing with other projects.
>>> Monday is probably good to meet. But if somebody else has other
>>option(other than Tue,Thu and weekend), I don't have any problem.
>>>
>>> Do we have to write anything about the project for the new people or just
>>redirect them to the home page?
>>>
>>> See you all on Jabber sometime next week!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Radu
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 05:22:48
>>>  Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>>> >All,
>>> >    Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday are all equally good for me.
>>> >    And yes, I'm planning on doing xmlWiki.  :)
>>> >    And, BTW, I guess we have 5/8 of returning members, counting Hugo.
>>> >--Arnaldo
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "naime" <na...@st...>
>>> >To: <na...@ui...>
>>> >Cc: <ar...@mi...>; <bo...@ho...>; <rd...@ma...>
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:14 PM
>>> >Subject: A restart for xmlWiki
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Team,
>>> >>
>>> >> It seems that four of us are back for CS329. How is your schedule
>>> >availability
>>> >> looking like? Since there is so much work to be done, specially with
>>Jim's
>>> >> departure, we could have a meeting to figure out how we are going to
>>> >proceed,
>>> >> including decide if we will keep the project alive, CVS, a jabber
>>server
>>> >among
>>> >> all the other things, figure out how we are going to acclimate the new
>>> >> comers... We can also enjoy the opportunity to chat before the project
>>> >> pressure starts to build...
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Abe
>>> >> P.S.: Arnaldo, since I saw your name in the book review list, I am
>>> >assuming
>>> >> you will return to xmlWiki. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>xmlWiki-developers mailing list
>>xml...@li...
>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlwiki-developers
>>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>xmlWiki-developers mailing list
>xml...@li...
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlwiki-developers

Hi, guys.

Is there any plan to meet tonight at 8PM CST?
Please let me know.

Thanks.

Radu
---

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:52:40  
 Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>Radu,
>    Is the home page still up?   What's the URL?
>    I think that the best thing to do is to direct them to the homepage and
>tell them to email us with any questions.  And tell them that XMLWiki is the
>project to join; be there or be square!
>    I forget...what time are we meeting on Monday?  As Johnson said in
>yesterday's lecture, groups should get started ASAP!
>--Arnaldo
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Radu Dram" <rd...@ly...>
>To: "naime" <na...@st...>; "Abolade Olaniyi"
><bo...@ho...>; "Arnaldo Cavazos" <ar...@mi...>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:55 AM
>Subject: Re: A restart for xmlWiki
>
>
>> Hi, guys.
>>
>> I am definitely for xmlWiki. Arnaldo is right, we are 5 out of 8 which is
>not bad comparing with other projects.
>> Monday is probably good to meet. But if somebody else has other
>option(other than Tue,Thu and weekend), I don't have any problem.
>>
>> Do we have to write anything about the project for the new people or just
>redirect them to the home page?
>>
>> See you all on Jabber sometime next week!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Radu
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 05:22:48
>>  Arnaldo Cavazos wrote:
>> >All,
>> >    Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday are all equally good for me.
>> >    And yes, I'm planning on doing xmlWiki.  :)
>> >    And, BTW, I guess we have 5/8 of returning members, counting Hugo.
>> >--Arnaldo
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "naime" <na...@st...>
>> >To: <na...@ui...>
>> >Cc: <ar...@mi...>; <bo...@ho...>; <rd...@ma...>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:14 PM
>> >Subject: A restart for xmlWiki
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Team,
>> >>
>> >> It seems that four of us are back for CS329. How is your schedule
>> >availability
>> >> looking like? Since there is so much work to be done, specially with
>Jim's
>> >> departure, we could have a meeting to figure out how we are going to
>> >proceed,
>> >> including decide if we will keep the project alive, CVS, a jabber
>server
>> >among
>> >> all the other things, figure out how we are going to acclimate the new
>> >> comers... We can also enjoy the opportunity to chat before the project
>> >> pressure starts to build...
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Abe
>> >> P.S.: Arnaldo, since I saw your name in the book review list, I am
>> >assuming
>> >> you will return to xmlWiki. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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Hi, guys.

Did you know about this site:

http://bang.cs.uiuc.edu/courseguide/results.php

Here you can see how people rank the courses in CS department. It may be very useful when selecting courses.

Hope this helps!

Reagrds,

Radu
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:04:06  
 James J. Kalafut wrote:
>>specially with Jim's departure, we could have a meeting to figure out how
>we are going to
>>proceed, including decide if we will keep the project alive, CVS, a jabber
>server
>>among all the other things.
>
>I'm still on the xmlWiki mailing list so I got your latest post.  Just to
>reiterate, make setting up a new jabber your absolute lowest priority!  My
>linux box is humming along fine, I haven't touched it in months and don't
>plan to do so for months.  Even if I decided to make any changes that would
>impact you, I'd give you all plenty of advance notice.  Seems like there
>are plenty of other activities you'll need to worry about besides screwing
>around with a jabber server.
>
>Regards,
>Jim
>
>P.S.  Has access to the CS329 page/lectures been clunky for you all?
>Everything I try to get at on CS333 is really slow, and most of the time
>the lectures don't work because the connection is so bad.
>
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