Re: [Xmldb-org-general] XUpdate and spam problem on mailing lists

[Uche O. <uch...@fo...>]

On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 15:38 +0200, Per Nyfelt wrote:
> s=F6ndagen den 24 april 2005 07.41 skrev Uche Ogbuji:
> > Well, folks seem to be eager to write XUpdate off:
> >
> > http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00678.html
> >
> > Personally, I think XUpdate is one of the most successful and useful
> > outputs of XML:DB, and that it's worth some effort to save from any
> > supposed obsolescence.
> >
> > I think we have several problems:
> >
> > 1) The mailings lists are spam-ridden.  XUpdate is especially hard hi=
s.
> > I can imagine it's driven a lot of folks away.  Doesn't SF have some
> > sort of spam control?  If not, should we consider a Google group for
> > XUpdate?  I'm willing to take on the task to set one up, if need be.
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> Yes I did set up spam control about 1-2 months ago. As you probably hav=
e seen,=20
> there is no spam coming in anymore.

I haven't seen that.  My own spam filters never let any through, so I
didn't notice all the spam until I looked at the archives.

Thanks for installing the controls.

> > 3) A clear location.  Maybe:
> >
> > http://www.xmldatabases.org/xupdate ?
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> Currently it is
> http://xmldb-org.sourceforge.net/xupdate/
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> is that not clear?

I would have thought so, but if you look at the XML-DEV thread which i
posted, apparently others don't think so.


> > Maybe create a separate "xupdate" project on SourceForge?
> >
> > Maybe get xupdate.org?
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> If it grows big then yes but I do not see the need for that right now.

Well, at the very least we should move Kimbro's use cases to the same
place as the specs.

I'd still like to know if I'm missing any implementations from my list
(or if I have any stale info):

> > Could anyone help me compile a list of implementations?  I'll start b=
y
> > mentioning the ones I know:
> >
> > * 4Suite.  http://4suite.org XUpdate command line tool and Python API
> > * xmldiff - XUpdate-based XML diff and merge in Python
> > * XIndice
> > * eXist
> > * Lexus
> > * dbxml
> > * Orbeon
> > * X-Hive
> > * Jaxup (http://klomp.org/jaxup/)
> > * Mobius Mako Command Line Utilities
> > http://projectmobius.osu.edu/docs/makocl.php
> > * RxUpdate (http://rx4rdf.liminalzone.org/RxUpdate), and "enhanced"
> > implementation
> > * XML-XUpdate-LibXML (http://search.cpan.org/~pajas/XML-XUpdate-
> > LibXML-0.5.0/), Perl implementation
> >
> > Thanks.
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