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Comparison of LLT and VLM method

Parul
2016-12-16
2018-05-24
  • Parul

    Parul - 2016-12-16

    Hi
    1. I am doing XFLR analysis for a rectangular wing with high AR, I am getting differnt values of CL and CD for differnt methods i.e. LLT and Horseshoe Vortex(VLM1). Can you please explain the reason and which one is accurate? Also, why LLT method is not available in Stability Analysis?
    2. In VLM analysis, why CL doesn't vary with velocity and density?

    LLT Method:

    Vel alpha CL CD
    10 7 1.305 0.060
    15 7 1.386 0.056

    Horseshoe Vortex Method (VLM1)

    Vel alpha CL CD
    10 6 1.586 0.078
    15 6 1.586 0.069

    LLT & VLM1

    Vel alpha CL CD
    15 7 1.683 0.111
    15 7 1.386 0.056

    Thanks
    Parul

     

    Last edit: Parul 2016-12-16
  • André

    André - 2016-12-17
    1. No method is accurate
    2. Panel methods are based on the Euler equations which are invisicid, and therefore results do not depend on velocity.
     
  • Parul

    Parul - 2016-12-17

    If one is to be chosen out of them which one shall I use for low subsonic incompressible flow?
    Thanks

     
  • Rohan

    Rohan - 2016-12-22

    This is a good question. LLT should be more accurate, Andre' to confirm....

     

    Last edit: Rohan 2016-12-22
  • Marko J.

    Marko J. - 2017-02-20

    Anf if your wing has a AR of 6 or higher and your sweep angle is 0 or has a very small angle. The LLT is the best method for you. LLT is also nonlinear.
    The other Methods VLM and Panel are only linear but give you sufficent accurate results when you have small AR and/or large sweep angle.
    In the guidlines of XFLR5 you could read a more detailed description

     
  • Chantell Black

    Chantell Black - 2018-05-24

    Hi,

    André you say that:
    Panel methods are based on the Euler equations which are invisicid, and therefore results do not depend on velocity.

    Apparently Euler equations are compressible? Is that correct? And if so, I thought XFLR5 does not account for compressibility? So how does panel methods use Euler? Sorry for all the questions.

    Kind Regards,

    Chantell

     

    Last edit: Chantell Black 2018-05-24

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