Re: [Xenocide-programming] xercesc

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Hi Chrisp and Mamutas,

We are not supporting any platform different that Windows per ce, however as 
OGRE is already platform independant with it working in Windows, Linux and 
MacOS X, then we trieve to make the code as much easier to port as posible.

On the Xerces issue, as Mamutas said, we were busy with other stuff (mostly 
recreating devpacks and working with OGRE to learn how to do the stuff we 
need). But hearing that it use outdated libraries it is a bad sign for any Open 
Source Project (whether be it linux or windows), are you sure about it??? That 
means that the support is starting to lack. After switching to OGRE I had done 
a very hard evaluation of the OGRE Community and that gave me the final push to 
select it against Nebula 2, so the same have to be done with Xerces.

I do aggree with Mamutas that Xerces is a very big XML Parser that will 
fullfill all our needs until releasing and that validation is a very important 
thing for debugging purposes + in game use too. But adoption of Xerces is not 
official until we integrate it and test it throughly.

Greetings
Red Knight


Quoting mamutas <mam...@ho...>:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> I am sorry to hear your frustrations about Xerces.
> 
> Let me update you on current situation. As far as I know no one has
> integrated Xerces in Xenocide. Actually, that is my task, but I am busy with
> OGRE and did not have chance to look at Xerces yet. As we stated in early
> mails, 8MB is not a big problem nowadays, but having one of the most
> powerful and flexible XML parser in Xenocide will have its certain benefits.
> So far, I still plan to integrate Xerces into Xenocide.
> Regarding OS, that is a different story. We do not have any plans to support
> Xenocide on any other platform besides Windows. (RK, do we have a list of
> what specific Win platforms we are going to support? I can't remember where
> it is. We need to check it against Xerces platform list to make sure we are
> covered there as well.)
> 
> Regards,
> mamutas
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <chr...@ju...>
> To: <xen...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:51 PM
> Subject: [Xenocide-programming] xercesc
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > I have spent a GREAT deal of time trying to get xercesc to work properly
> for our needs and have not succeeded at all.  Has anyone actually been able
> to download (build) install and properly configure this package??
> Unforunately I am stuck with WinME for windows and will need to do any
> development in Linux for now.  So about two months ago (no joke) I
> downloaded the Xercesc source (their binary used woefully outdated libraries
> that are compatable with mine) and set out to compile and install it.  It
> took me about 15 or 20 months or so to configure, compile and install it
> with no errors!  Everything seems to be installed where it should be.
> Unfortunately when I try to compile any code that includes a xerces header,
> the compiler can't link it.  None of my other libraries do this and I've
> even tried it with different compilers to no avail.  The only possibility I
> can think of is that xerces uses obsolete libraries (at least in the linux
> environment).  This seems consistent with the binaries that were available.
> The also seemed obsolete.
> >
> > My experiences with xerces raised a few questions for me however.  Do we
> really need xerces??  It seems to me that we would only be using 1% of it's
> features.  Does it really matter if we don't have validation capability?
> What the hell are we going to validate anyway??  We can validate all of our
> XML before it even gets into the source tree, do we REALLY want to do this
> at run time??  Does it make sense to load 8MB+ xerces classes to do
> something that a less than 1MB class could do quite easily?  If you're
> making some type of browser xerces may make since, but to me it seems like
> more trouble than its worth.  In all the time it has taken me to not get
> xerces working, I could probably have made a class that can parse basic XML
> myself.  If no one else has gotten this to work then I think we should move
> on.  If anyone has (expecially in Linux), let me know how you did it!  If it
> just doesn't work for me, but does for everyone else, then I'll need
> somthing else to work on. :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > chrisp
> > ~
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