Re: [wxperl-users] wxPerl Community project...

[Foo JH <jhf...@ex...>]

Firstly, I'd like to applaud Peters for his proactive stance towards the 
problem statement.

I think there's a (relatively) small but helpful community in this 
mailing list, who have once faced the pain of learning the wxPerl 
framework, but have since learnt enough on their own to be less bothered 
by them.

I however am one who sort of got stuck with the pain, and have since 
resorted to C# to get around the issues. It's a sad departure, and one 
I'd like to return to again. Contrary to popular belief, programming 
stuff in Perl is REALLY fast and efficient (but the memory footprint can 
be improved...).

Like any other community, wxPerl needs to be friendly to 'new blood'. 
And for these people, we need something simple for them to get started 
on. What we have now are:
1. A couple of aged tutorials from perl.com and sourceforge.net
2. A few sets of integrated demos showing how the GUI components work, 
with source codes
3. An aged documentation on the classes

IMHO, these stuff are good, but need some form of updating to the more 
recent library. Looking at how 'others have done it', a constant (if 
even a trickle) stream of tips and tricks will be very encouraging, 
especially for people who need to know if wxPerl will be worth their 
time and effort.

Let's face it. Perl is really starting to look like Cobol in the sense 
of mindshare of the developer community. Slashdot ppl have been 
questioning the relavance of Perl in today's OS environments. And it's 
not because Perl sucks, but because they don't see anything new coming 
from this community. It's a human mentality, and it is a self-fulfilling 
prophecy.

To sum it up, if we can get a few good men to put up a fresh new look 
for wxPerl, I'm all for it. Just let me know where I can butt in.




Huub Peters wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I know many others have proposed it in the past and (maybe not so) many
> initiatives have been actually executed but we really need a central
> community kind of place.
>
> The german wiki (http://www.wxperl.de) is a mess (spammed all the time
> and even a defacing at this moment).
> The wiki at http://wxperl.pvoice.org/kwiki/ is a nice effort but only
> thanks to some users (or even only one? jralls?) it is staying free of
> spam but there are no new articles posted at all. Why? Don't know.
> It's probably not  known and personaly I just don't like the Kwiki-software
> but that's a matter of taste off course.
> (On a side note: Jouke (whose place this wiki is hosted on) has anounced
> on his weblog on 24-09-2006 that he will be offline for an undetermined
> ammount of time due to personal issues. Otherwise I would have taken this
> up with him directly to begin with.)
>
> There are other spots with excelent stuff (like gigi.co.uk) but I only heard
> about that on this list and it is decentralized this way.
>
> I can go on with being negative and summing up what I think is "wrong"
> and compare to "the great wxPython community" but that won't solve a thing
> so here's what I came up with:
>
> * I took the liberty of registering wxperl.info.
>   A good domain name improves "findability"
> * I'm in the lucky position of having hosting facilities and a lot of
>    fast bandwidth to go with it that I can use. (the company where I work
>    has no problems with me using it)
> * I started writing this mail :-)
>
> So what's next...?
> Next I need ideas and help.
>
> Here are some of my ideas:
> * We need a user friendly, nice looking wiki.
>    Something like "Mediawiki" (the heart of Wikipedia) but offcourse I
>    can't live with a perl community on a php-driven site so after some
>    searching I found Twiki: http://www.twiki.org which looks robust enough
>    to me.
> * We need tutorials
> * We need Howto's.
> * We need tips and tricks.
> * Maybe write up the problems and solutions from the mailing list.
> * Maybe a forum for some nice discussions (alltough it might clash with
>   the mailing list)
> * Show of your work.
>
> Bottom line: we need a central community where beginners and experts can
> teach and learn about wxPerl.
> I'm trying to offer the place to start this and hope it will grow to be as 
> big as
> wxPerl deserves it to be.
>
> E-mail me on or off list with your thoughts/ideas/offers etcetera and
> maybe we'll have a nice community in no time.
>
> Huub Peters
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier.
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> wxperl-users mailing list
> wxp...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wxperl-users
>