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Dear list,
some time ago I forgot to confirm the sourceforge request about still being a member of the Max...@li... mailing list.
Now I signed up again at the wxmaxima sourceforge page and I am now a member of this wxmaxima-develop list.

Question: are these the same mailing lists (only with changed mailing adresses)?
Jan
I am blind and use the screen reader JAWS for Windows (from Freedom
Scientific) to access information on my Windows PC.

Using my screen reader I am able to work with the Maxima command-line
program.

However I was wondering if the WXMaxima GUI interface is accessible with a
screen reader by the blind.  Thus far I have not ben able to work
successfully with this interface.

If anyone else has any suggestions or tips for running WXMaxima with a
screen reader please let me know.  This could be a powerful tool for blind
people who need to perform symbolic math calculations.

Thanks.

--Pete

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:58 AM, Gunter Königsmann <gu...@pe...> wrote:
> Sounds logical. Don't know what Andrej thinks about this topic, though:
> Currently the wxMaxima mailing list isn't mentioned on the wxMaxima
> homepage. Don't know if there is a reason for that.

wxmaxima-devel was supposed to be used by developers. It is closed now
and not used since there are not that many wxmaxima developers.

Regular users should use the forums at the sourceforge project.

https://sourceforge.net/p/wxmaxima/discussion/435775

Andrej

Sounds logical. Don't know what Andrej thinks about this topic, though:
Currently the wxMaxima mailing list isn't mentioned on the wxMaxima
homepage. Don't know if there is a reason for that.

Kind regards,

   Gunter.

On 06.03.2016 20:51, Roland Salz wrote:
> Hi Gunter,
> 
>  
> 
> Why don’t we use xwm...@li...
> <mailto:xwm...@li...> for wxMaxima specific
> stuff? Then everything is archived and nothing gets lost. Using this
> list I think is sometimes better than just personal conversation,
> because many times a third or fourth party may be interested as well.
> One can easily listen to this list in parallel to maxima and all the
> interested people can join in. This list also is somewhat more
> convenient than only communicating via github. Are you subscribed to
> wxmaxima-devel? I am, but I never received anything from this list so
> far. It is basically void. In principle I can understand Kris. Probably
> he is not the only one with this opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> Info page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wxmaxima-devel
> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wxmaxima-devel>
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Roland
> 

Hi Gunter,

Why dont we use xwm...@li... for wxMaxima specific stuff? Then everything is archived and
nothing gets lost. Using this list I think is sometimes better than just personal conversation, because many times a
third or fourth party may be interested as well. One can easily listen to this list in parallel to maxima and all the
interested people can join in. This list also is somewhat more convenient than only communicating via github. Are you
subscribed to wxmaxima-devel? I am, but I never received anything from this list so far. It is basically void. In
principle I can understand Kris. Probably he is not the only one with this opinion.

Info page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/li <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wxmaxima-devel>
stinfo/wxmaxima-devel

Best regards,

Roland

I'm working in the sets theory... What i have to do if I want everytime 
there is a {} (empty set) in a result maxima shows a symbol (or a letter)?

Example:

{{},{{}}}

I want maxima showing this:

{ES,{ES}}

(ES for Empty Set...but it's okay anyway..)

Please Help me! .

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I'm working in the sets theory... What i have to do if I want everytime there
is a {} (empty set) in a result maxima shows a symbol (or a letter)?

Example:

{{},{{}}}

I want maxima showing this:

{ES,{ES}}

(ES for Empty Set...but it's okay anyway..)

Please Help me! .
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Does wxMaxima support .tex files format? BTW is this the right  
mailing list for this question?

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Hi!

After I installed wxMaxima on my OS X 10.4.9. I got the following  
problem:

The error-message says, there're files with hints, which cannot be  
found. (It's German ;))

Where can I get these files?

Thing is: I can't use wxMaxima because the error-message can't be  
clicked away. It stays nevertheless what I do!

http://www.1200kb.net/uploadimg/file109016184.jpeg

I uploaded a picture which may help to understand my problem.

Thanks,
Marius
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Greetings.

I am running FreeBSD 6.2, with KDE 3.5, and have installed the wxMaxima
port, which installs version .7, if I am not mistaken.

I was able to get the application to work flawlessly on the first
install, and run.  However, after that initial run, the application
comes up, however, the lower right always says that the Maxima session
was terminated, and if I type any lines then only  a message similar to
the subject of this email is displayed, in red.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Hello all,

there will be a new release of maxima at the beginning of January so I
would like to make a new release of wxmaxima in the middle of
December. I have updated the po files in cvs. If you find some time
please update your translations.

There were some problems with non-UTF8 translations on Linux. If you
find that you need to use UTF8 for your translation to work please use
UTF8 for the translation and let me know so that I will convert the
encoding for the Windows binary.

Thanks,
Andrej

Hi all,

version 0.6.5 has been released.

Andrej

On 3/27/06, Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think we are ready to release a new version of wxMaxima.
>
> Some changes:
>  - a new translation to German
>  - documentation updated to version 5.9.3
>  - GUI cleanups
>  - the size of button panel si configurable
>  - the math output is more configurable
>  - there is now an option to have ASCII 2d display
>  - context menu in console available with right mouse click
>  - the startup tips will now be translated
>  - wxMaxima now compiles and runs on MacOS X
>  - some bugs were fixed
>
> I have updated the *.po files in cvs, please update them if you find
> the time. I would like to have a release next week.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrej
>

Hi all,

I think we are ready to release a new version of wxMaxima.

Some changes:
 - a new translation to German
 - documentation updated to version 5.9.3
 - GUI cleanups
 - the size of button panel si configurable
 - the math output is more configurable
 - there is now an option to have ASCII 2d display
 - context menu in console available with right mouse click
 - the startup tips will now be translated
 - wxMaxima now compiles and runs on MacOS X
 - some bugs were fixed

I have updated the *.po files in cvs, please update them if you find
the time. I would like to have a release next week.

Thanks,
Andrej

>  * Change to tabs
>  * User literals maxima commands (i.e. "radcan")
>  * Drop some less needed buttons - especially those which pop up dialogs
>  * Make the buttons in some way user configurable, so that we don't need
>    to figure out what's most sensible ourselves

I like the last option the most. Something like (multiple) palettes
with different buttons on them  which the user can have displayed or
not. Displayed either as a separate floating window or docked in the
main window. However current wxWidgets do not provide such
functionality. We could use wxDockIt [1], which is a simple library
for doing this, or wait for wxWidgets to provide this. I think wxIFM
[2] will be integrated into wxWidgets for the next release.

Andrej

[1] http://wxextended.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://www.snakesoft.net/wxifm/

>         I don't know well wxwidgets[2]: is there the possibility to split
>         (automatically) on more lines widgets that do not fit on one
>         line? Gtk+ does (ex. Gimp: when you resize the window, the table
>         containing all the instruments changes shape). Also, still my
>         lack of knowledge of wxwidgets, probably it is possible to set
>         the buttons properties in order to allow label on multiple lines.=
.

Splitting buttons into more than one line could be done, but if we
want to keep similar commands together that could be a lot of work.

However labels in multiple lines is a good idea. It works on windows.
Can someone test this on Linux? Replacing

  button_3 =3D new wxButton(panel, button_radcan, _("Simplify (r)"));

with

  button_3 =3D new wxButton(panel, button_radcan, _("Simplify\nradicals"));

in wxMaximaFrame.cpp should do it.

Andrej

> 	av> So that we have an idea what tab based panel would look like I made
>  a
> 	av> screenshot:
> 
> 	av>   http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/images/wxmaxima_with_tabs.png
> 
> 	av> Nothing is decided yet - the changes are made so that we see the sp
> ace
> 	av> requirements.
> 
>         I don't like tabs.. in this case the user need an extra "click"
>         before he find the button.. 

Not really. If it is done right, then the user first selects the tab
according to the problem he wants to solve and then (hopefully) all
relevant features should be just there. Not sure if this can really be
accomplished - thats part of the reason, why we brought this discussion
to the public...

>         and also, increase the time needed
>         to find the button itself. As a user, I really preferr all items
>         there[1].
> 
>         I don't know well wxwidgets[2]: is there the possibility to split
>         (automatically) on more lines widgets that do not fit on one
>         line? Gtk+ does (ex. Gimp: when you resize the window, the table
>         containing all the instruments changes shape). Also, still my
>         lack of knowledge of wxwidgets, probably it is possible to set
>         the buttons properties in order to allow label on multiple lines..
> 
>         Btw, with Italian translation (in which most words are
>         truncated), I have no problems on debian gnu/linux with the
>         button widths.

Yes. I triggred the current discussion, because I would prefer
"Simplify radicals" over "Simplify (r)" for example. I think that the
latter is bad UI design, because it neither tells the user what it is
doing mathematically nor what it is doing from maxima's point of view.

If we change to "Simplify radicals" that will consume to much space,
so I think there are the following options:

 * Change to tabs
 * User literals maxima commands (i.e. "radcan")
 * Drop some less needed buttons - especially those which pop up dialogs
 * Make the buttons in some way user configurable, so that we don't need
   to figure out what's most sensible ourselves

Regards,
Harald

So that we have an idea what tab based panel would look like I made a
screenshot:

  http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/images/wxmaxima_with_tabs.png

Nothing is decided yet - the changes are made so that we see the space
requirements.

Andrej

2005/12/6, Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...>:
> Hi all,
>
> Harald and I have been talking about some changes to the button panel
> under the input line. Something has to be changes since the space
> required for the panel in translated versions of wxMaxima is usually
> bigger than in the english version (sometimes it does not fit the
> screen). Rather than reducing the number of buttons, some other option
> might be better, which would allow for more functional panel. Using
> another library could be usefull (like wxDockIt from
> http://wxextended.sf.net/ ).
>
> If anyone else wants to participate in the discussion, please join in.
>
> Andrej
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Harald Geyer <Har...@gm...>
> Date: 6.12.2005 10:33
> Subject: Re: wxmaxima (translation) issues
> To: Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...>
>
>
> Hi Andrej!
>
> > I have been thinking some more about this problem. Another option is
> > to use a notebook for the button panel. This way we can group buttons
> > for similar commands together in tabs (similar structure as in the
> > menus). This would allow for even more buttons - like constants,
> > common math functions and so on. Descriptive translations would be
> > appropriate with this solution. What do you think?
>
> I've been thinking about changes in the UI too. At some point I thought
> about making the buttons user configurable. I think generating the
> buttons dynamically shouldn't be much of a problem, but I'm not sure
> about the configuration feature (i.e. some possibility to drag menu
> items to the button area and set some custom lable) itself. Do you
> think that would be easy to implement? Also I'm not sure if the users
> needs vary enough to justify the additional burden...
>
> I think adding tabs would be a good idea, because they don't collapse
> after selecting an item as menus do. This would be especially handy if
> the user is experimenting without knowing yet which function suits his
> needs best. (At least I do that a lot.) However tabs need a lot of
> space themselves so they probably aren't very useful without reserving so=
me
> extra space. Extra space of course makes the need for tabs less pressing =
...
>
> An other benefit of tabs comes to my mind: If you ever plan to support
> additional maxima packages (like vect), the UI would already have a
> modular structure. But of course this is true for menus already.
>
> If we want the buttons in the tabs to remain fast accessible, then we
> propably shouldn't stick to much to the hierachic structure of the menu.
> Actually I think it would be useful to duplicate some of the buttons
> across some ot the tabs. However I'm not sure, which layout would be a
> good idea. I will try to observe my own usage habits more closely.
>
> Perhaps we should take this discussion to the public? If you agree, feel
> free to quote this message whereever you want.
>
> Harald
>

Hi all,

Harald and I have been talking about some changes to the button panel
under the input line. Something has to be changes since the space
required for the panel in translated versions of wxMaxima is usually
bigger than in the english version (sometimes it does not fit the
screen). Rather than reducing the number of buttons, some other option
might be better, which would allow for more functional panel. Using
another library could be usefull (like wxDockIt from
http://wxextended.sf.net/ ).

If anyone else wants to participate in the discussion, please join in.

Andrej

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Harald Geyer <Har...@gm...>
Date: 6.12.2005 10:33
Subject: Re: wxmaxima (translation) issues
To: Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...>

Hi Andrej!

> I have been thinking some more about this problem. Another option is
> to use a notebook for the button panel. This way we can group buttons
> for similar commands together in tabs (similar structure as in the
> menus). This would allow for even more buttons - like constants,
> common math functions and so on. Descriptive translations would be
> appropriate with this solution. What do you think?

I've been thinking about changes in the UI too. At some point I thought
about making the buttons user configurable. I think generating the
buttons dynamically shouldn't be much of a problem, but I'm not sure
about the configuration feature (i.e. some possibility to drag menu
items to the button area and set some custom lable) itself. Do you
think that would be easy to implement? Also I'm not sure if the users
needs vary enough to justify the additional burden...

I think adding tabs would be a good idea, because they don't collapse
after selecting an item as menus do. This would be especially handy if
the user is experimenting without knowing yet which function suits his
needs best. (At least I do that a lot.) However tabs need a lot of
space themselves so they probably aren't very useful without reserving some
extra space. Extra space of course makes the need for tabs less pressing ..=
.

An other benefit of tabs comes to my mind: If you ever plan to support
additional maxima packages (like vect), the UI would already have a
modular structure. But of course this is true for menus already.

If we want the buttons in the tabs to remain fast accessible, then we
propably shouldn't stick to much to the hierachic structure of the menu.
Actually I think it would be useful to duplicate some of the buttons
across some ot the tabs. However I'm not sure, which layout would be a
good idea. I will try to observe my own usage habits more closely.

Perhaps we should take this discussion to the public? If you agree, feel
free to quote this message whereever you want.

Harald

 || On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:24:54 -0800
 || Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...> wrote: 

	av> Hi Marco,
	av> the first thing to do is to update the files needed for
	av> translation.

        .po files are updated in CVS.

        Regards

        Marco

-- 
"I videogiochi non influenzano i bambini. Voglio dire, se Pac-Man avesse
influenzato la nostra generazione, staremmo tutti saltando in sale
scure, masticando pillole magiche e ascoltando musica elettronica
ripetitiva."

"Videogames do not influence kids. I mean, if Pac-Man influenced our
generation, we were all jumping in dark rooms, chomping pills and
listening to electronic repeating music."

Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc. 1989

Hello everybody
I don't really know how to deal with cvs, somebody could perhaps send me 
the french translation file by email and update it for me after I 
translated everything ?
Thanks
Eric

Marco Presi a écrit :
>  || On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:24:54 -0800
>  || Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...> wrote: 
> 
> 	av> Hi Marco,
> 	av> the first thing to do is to update the files needed for translation.
> 	av> In locales subdir please execute:
> 
>         [....]
> 
>         ok
> 
>         [....]
> 
> 	av> There is a problem with 'make dist'. I will explain more when we are
> 	av> ready to make the release.
> 
>         ok
> 
>         What about the test for case-sensitive i made on Linux? Is it
>         ok, or there are other tests to do?
> 
> 	av> Thanks,
> 
>         You are welocome,
> 
>         Marco
> 

 || On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:24:54 -0800
 || Andrej Vodopivec <and...@gm...> wrote: 

	av> Hi Marco,
	av> the first thing to do is to update the files needed for translation.
	av> In locales subdir please execute:

        [....]

        ok

        [....]

	av> There is a problem with 'make dist'. I will explain more when we are
	av> ready to make the release.

        ok

        What about the test for case-sensitive i made on Linux? Is it
        ok, or there are other tests to do?

	av> Thanks,

        You are welocome,

        Marco

-- 
"I videogiochi non influenzano i bambini. Voglio dire, se Pac-Man avesse
influenzato la nostra generazione, staremmo tutti saltando in sale
scure, masticando pillole magiche e ascoltando musica elettronica
ripetitiva."

"Videogames do not influence kids. I mean, if Pac-Man influenced our
generation, we were all jumping in dark rooms, chomping pills and
listening to electronic repeating music."

Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc. 1989

Hi Marco,

the first thing to do is to update the files needed for translation.
In locales subdir please execute:

make allpo

That should create wxMaxima.pot and update all *.po files. Then please
commit the *.po files to cvs so that others can start translating
them.

>         I've update cvs and all build fine. In the previous e-mail you
>         mentioned that there were problems with the makefile, but here
>         all compiled fine. What problems were you referring to?

There is a problem with 'make dist'. I will explain more when we are
ready to make the release.

Thanks,
Andrej

Hi,

        (I include all you guys in the reply as I don't know if 

        as from your request, I tried the new version on Linux (Debian
        GNU/Linux).

        I've update cvs and all build fine. In the previous e-mail you
        mentioned that there were problems with the makefile, but here
        all compiled fine. What problems were you referring to?

        I also tested the package (make dist, and builded the result);
        debian pkg upgrades fine and I made a simple test:

        (%i5) bb: 2;
        (%o5) 2
        (%i6) BB^2;
        (%o6) BB^2
        (%i7) 

        is this the right behavior for the new case-sensitive code?

        If I didn't miss something, there is only the localization issue
        to solve.. I can do something with the italian one (..if the
        other Marco has not already did it :) ).

        I should be on IRC (freenode and oftc as "zufus") most of the day.

        Regards

        Marco

-- 
"I videogiochi non influenzano i bambini. Voglio dire, se Pac-Man avesse
influenzato la nostra generazione, staremmo tutti saltando in sale
scure, masticando pillole magiche e ascoltando musica elettronica
ripetitiva."

"Videogames do not influence kids. I mean, if Pac-Man influenced our
generation, we were all jumping in dark rooms, chomping pills and
listening to electronic repeating music."

Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc. 1989

New in version 0.6.0: support for printing; the display is much more
configurable; new configuration dialog; translations to Spanish and
Italian; other small changes/enhancement and bug fixes. 

wxMaxima 0.6.0 can be downloaded from 

http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/download.html 

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