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Re: [wsjt-devel] Windows compatibility WSJT-X and improved
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From: Greg W. <gw...@po...> - 2025-05-01 18:25:45
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I get it and have two comments. <div><br></div><div>1. I did a quick search on Amazon and found a decent Windows 11 PC that is refurbished for $240. Don’t overlook those. I have helped many friends get those and have never had a problem. </div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:20C27C8B-1E66-4C5C-AEF3-15455051A0B3" width="834" alt="image"></div><div><br></div><div>2. Make friends with your local Bank’s IT Manager. Community Banks are often very willing to give away old PCs, otherwise they have to pay to dispose of them. Most banks replace their PCs every three or four years. Many IT Managers will require the hard drive be removed before disposing of the PC so all you would have to buy would be a cheap hard drive. You may be able to make a deal with them to come in and remove the hard drives from the old ones the next time they do a refresh and walk out with a bunch of them. Hint; Emphasize ARES. </div><div><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Over the years I have been privileged to give away literally hundreds of PCs. </span>I am retired now but I may still be able to get a PC for free from time to time. I’m not sure where you are but if you live anywhere close to South Georgia, I’d be happy to let you know when I get another one. </div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 1, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Tom Hauer <rdr...@gm...> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail-aju" style="float:none;padding:0px 16px;display:flex;height:80px;min-width:40px;font-family:"Google Sans",Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:medium"><div class="gmail-aCi" style=""><br><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Greg,</span></div></div><div class="gmail-gs" style="margin:0px;min-width:0px;padding:0px 0px 20px;width:auto;font-family:"Google Sans",Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:medium"><div class="gmail-"><div id="gmail-:2re" class="gmail-ii gmail-gt" style="direction:ltr;margin:8px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-size:0.875rem;overflow-x:hidden"><div id="gmail-:2rf" class="gmail-a3s gmail-aiL" style="direction:ltr;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:small;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;overflow:auto hidden"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Your comments are not totally fair. First, many of us are using computers that cannot be upgraded to Windows 11, so it isn't FREE. Sorry, I live on Social Security and cannot afford to just go out and dump a bunch of money on a newer computer. Second, Windows 11 still has compatibility issues with some of the software I run so I am staying put for now. Third, Windows 10 doesn't even play nice at this late stage in its support life with everything I use!</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, I am concerned about what will happen with the .NET framework for Windows 10 after it is no longer supported as there are several things I use (like WinLink Express) that may no longer work on Windows 10, but for now I am where I am and that is that!!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for seeing others' perspectives!</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Tom Hauer, K0YA<div>ARES Emergency Coordinator</div><div>Blanco, Burnet, Llano and Mason Counties</div><div>ARRL ARES District 8, STX Section</div><div>TDEM RACES District 12-053</div><div>Burnet County CERT</div><div>319 551-9788<br></div><div><a href="mailto:rdr...@gm..." style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">rdr...@gm...</a></div><div>PO Box 1522 (mailing ADR)</div><div>11700 E FM 1431 R37</div><div>Marble Falls, Tx 78654</div><div>EM00wn</div><div>Latitude: 30.568805</div><div>Longitude: -98.140287</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 10:25 AM Greg Walls via wsjt-devel <<a href="mailto:wsj...@li...">wsj...@li...</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">As a former IT Professional of 32 years, why would anyone be on an unsupported platform, especially when upgrades to Windows 11 are free? I wonder if these guys are still driving their first car.<div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 1, 2025, at 10:06 AM, Uwe, DG2YCB via wsjt-devel <<a href="mailto:wsj...@li..." target="_blank">wsj...@li...</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
Hi Andy,<br>
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You are causing a lot of confusion with such half-baked statements.
Like always, and for good reasons, the Windows installation packages
for all WSJT-X Improved versions are being created using Qt 5.12.12.
This gives the best possible backwards compatibility (down to
Windows 7), as well as the rest results in terms of rendering the
various controls (also when Dark Style is enabled). This tool chain
has not been changed over the past months. <br>
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As you know, we've spent many days of work trying to help you with
your "special" setup on an old Windows 8.1. system. During these
tests, you confirmed that all is working well on your Windows 10
computer. And no one else has ever reported similar issues than you
with your setup.<br>
<br>
Please do me a favor and stop confusing others. If you don't
understand why we invest months of work to offer a data set for Qt6
in addition to the existing Qt5 source code, then any further
discussion about it here is not worthwhile anyway. Other OMs who
know what this is for are very grateful for this work. And if at
some point in the future you should buy more modern equipment (maybe
even Linux-based), then you will be grateful to us one day why we
were so wise and foresighted in 2024 and 2025 to develop the
necessary source code for it and keep it up to date.<br>
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73 de DG2YCB,<br>
Uwe<br>
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German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB<br>
Dr. Uwe Risse<br>
eMail: <a href="mailto:dg...@gm..." target="_blank">dg...@gm...</a><br>
Info: <a href="http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB" target="_blank">www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB</a><br>
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<div>Am 01.05.2025 um 13:55 schrieb Andy
Durbin via wsjt-devel:<br>
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"Both <span style="font-weight:700">Windows 7 or 8.x</span> version
support will not be available for Qt 6. Microsoft discontinued
the support for both Windows versions some time ago, and as a
vendor, we can no longer maintain support for these windows
versions in Qt 6. Windows 7 (both 32bit and 64bit) was supported
as a target in Qt 5.15 LTS and Windows 8.1 (both 32bit and
64bit) as a target in Qt 5.12 LTS. This means that we will not
have 32bit Windows support available. Additionally, it will no
longer be possible to create <span style="font-weight:700">UWP</span> applications
on Windows 10."</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
ref - <a href="https://www.qt.io/blog/qt6-development-hosts-and-targets" id="m_802168972057515211LPlnk307179" target="_blank">
https://www.qt.io/blog/qt6-development-hosts-and-targets</a></div>
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I have found that 2.8.0 improved is not compatible with Win 8.1
and no one has said that it works for them.</div>
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Should the WSJT-X Windows compatibility statement be revised?
It currently states - " (Windows 7 and later)" which was true
for 2.7.0 but may not be true if later official releases use
Qt6.</div>
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73,</div>
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Andy, k3wyc</div>
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