Re: [wsjt-devel] Message Creator/QSY Monitor Request for feature

[Reino T. <rei...@ko...>]

Hi Scott,

Interesting proposal to extend the Message System outside a QSO. As it is presented in the user guide the recipient should know the sender from previous messages, whether your current QSO partner or DXpedition station. 

You are implying that some other station, who may or may not have called you earlier (but you have not answered), is sending that message to you, aren’t you. That feature would require what you described, but still the sending station is identified only by the received frequency. The nature of the Message System is more or less broadcasting and only implied one to one.

There are already other services that present active stations’ callsigns on the frequency scale. 

 

73, Reino OH3mA

 

From: Scott Armstrong via wsjt-devel <wsj...@li...> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 11:45 AM
To: Uwe, DG2YCB <dg...@gm...>
Cc: Scott Armstrong <aa5...@gm...>; WSJT software development <wsj...@li...>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Message Creator/QSY Monitor Request for feature

 

Hi Uwe,

I don't think you understand what I am proposing.
I agree it would be nice if we could use the free form text message to convey that information but that is not an option.

What I am proposing does not use the message payload.

I'll try to show you with the following picture/text.  Follow the numbers.

#1. W5ABC has a QSO with me.
#2  AA5AM sends a QSY message to W5ABC and he receives it. Pop up window opens. Message appears in the QSY Monitor window. 

 Imagine a crowded band,  lots of signals. Who is the message from where do I point my antenna?

Now for my proposal to determine who the message is from.

#3 Take the DF of the received QSY Message.

#4 Compare the DF of the QSY Message with the DF of previous decodes and try to match one or more that are within maybe +/- 2Hz.   ( DF QSY = DF QSO decode(s))
#5  DFs match!  Oh. The message is from AA5AM.
# 6. Add AA5AM  to the Pop up window and QSY monitor window.


Thoughts?

73,

Scott AA5AM



 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 2:31 AM Uwe, DG2YCB <dg...@gm... <mailto:dg...@gm...> > wrote:

Hi Scott,

I agree this would be useful, but unfortunately this is not possible for technical reasons. We use normal freetext messages for the new message system, and already make full use of the 13 characters available.


73 de DG2YCB,
Uwe
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German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB
Dr. Uwe Risse
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Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB <http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB> 



 

Am 15.01.2025 um 01:27 schrieb Scott Armstrong via wsjt-devel:

Hey Guys,

Small issue.   If I receive a QSY message from someone, I have no idea who sent that message other than trying to track down the  station by his DF and that is only good if he hasn't moved.
This will not work so well on a busy band in the heat of the contest.

I could  blindly QSY to that band but in the case of a band with highly directional antennas, where do I aim the antenna? Not as much of an issue on the lower bands but could still be a problem.

This is what I see displayed in the QSY monitor window. It doesn't even show the DF the message came in at.




I have a request,

Can some functionality be added that will take the DF of the QSY message and match that to the DF maybe within +/- a few Hz to other prior decodes, pull the callsign of that station that sent the message and display that callsign in the QSY monitor window?

Thank you and 73,

Scott AA5AM

 

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