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Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents
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From: Joe <ns...@mw...> - 2019-03-31 22:38:33
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Thing that is funny about this rage? People are fuming about how someone modified the program to make a robot QSO Maker. Where was all the rage when it was like a week after FT-8 was first released. where someone automated it way back then? I mean it was very simple to do. No coding skills or anything at all. Take a small free program like "Auto Mouse Click" and 5 minutes later, you have a QSO Robot. Funny, never heard any rage back then. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 3/31/2019 2:52 PM, James Shaver wrote: > Add me to that list. Well said, as always, Bill. > > Jim S. > N2ADV > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Bobby Chandler <bo...@be... > <mailto:bo...@be...>> wrote: > >> Bravo Bill! I agree 100%. >> Bobby/N4AU >> *From:* Bill Somerville >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:53 AM >> *To:* wsj...@li... >> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents >> On 31/03/2019 17:12, Carey Fisher wrote: >>> All I have to say, and I've been saying for some time now, is that >>> maybe developers will now think twice before releasing software such >>> as this as Open Source. >> >> Carey, >> >> that shows a major misunderstanding of both Open Source software and >> the complexity of WSJT-X. WSJT-X uses two major components provided >> by third-party teams that are themselves Open Source. There are no >> other free equivalent components of sufficient quality and scope and >> writing our own would take many man-years of effort and ongoing >> maintenance. These components give us an essential leg up to >> providing a portable cross-platform application of the highest >> quality with reasonable development timescales. There are reasons why >> many closed source applications are Windows only and these factors >> are high on the list. >> >> Aside from that, of the latest two "robot" offerings being touted, >> one does not require any changes to WSJT-X source code and the other >> is being offered as a contribution with the contentious robotic parts >> removed. Either way the WSJT team have no interest in WSJT-X being >> used as a QSO robot and the automation that has been provided already >> is only in response to large scale user demand. For example >> auto-sequencing and "Call 1st" were deemed necessary for FT8 because >> the small thinking time between decodes completing and the next >> transmission period requires super-human concentration and reaction >> times. For QSO modes like FT8 we have a basic user interface rule >> that each QSO must be initiated by some operator action, e.g. calling >> CQ or replying to a CQ. At the end of a QSO for normal DX contacts >> the user has the final say on whether a completed QSO is logged, >> WSJT-X will prompt the user to log a QSO but they must take further >> action to confirm a good contact or reject a bad one. There are other >> operator aids for high QSO rate situations, like contest operating >> and running a rare and popular DX operation, related to logging QSOs >> but the requirement for an operator action to initiate each QSO is >> always maintained. >> >> What is worth noting is that the small WSJT development team expends >> a lot of thought and time on how to combat rogue patched versions and >> add-on tools that attempt to exceed the levels of automation we deem >> sufficient. These are either misguided or malicious. This detracts >> from core development and maintenance and we would rather not have to >> give up that effort. >> >> On a personal note; my opinion on QSO robots, aside from their >> questionable legality in many countries, is that most Amateur Radio >> operators would not consider a QSO with a machine to be worthwhile >> and to find out that they had done so unknowingly would be very >> annoying. For those that attempt to deploy such robots, I suggest >> they go a step further and dispense with the radio equipment and use >> their PC skills to mock up the certificates and awards and print them >> directly, that way no one else is being disappointed and they can >> save themselves a whole lot of cost and time building, operating, and >> maintaining an Amateur Radio station. >> >> 73 >> Bill >> G4WJS. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsj...@li... >> <mailto:wsj...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsj...@li... >> <mailto:wsj...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel |
