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Re: [wsjt-devel] Behavior during QSO between 2 long calls
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From: <tm...@gm...> - 2019-01-09 06:47:52
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<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div>Hi Danny,</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks for supporting my concern.</div> <div> </div> <div>Previous revisions of WSJT-X did not take into account the grid square when dealing with long call signs with additional prefix/ or /suffix. But Rev. 2 is definitely different. During my QSOs with each of the 3 stations mentionned we entered into an endless cycle of <station A> station B, <station B> station A ... exchanges without any progress in the sequencing, until one of us gave up.</div> <div> </div> <div>73 Phil</div> <div>F5FDV</div> <div> </div> <div> <div name="quote" style="margin:10px 5px 5px 10px; padding: 10px 0 10px 10px; border-left:2px solid #C3D9E5; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"> <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Envoyé:</b> mercredi 9 janvier 2019 à 02:37<br/> <b>De:</b> "DX Jami via wsjt-devel" <wsj...@li...><br/> <b>À:</b> "WSJT software development" <wsj...@li...><br/> <b>Cc:</b> "DX Jami" <ah...@ya...><br/> <b>Objet:</b> Re: [wsjt-devel] Behavior during QSO between 2 long calls</div> <div name="quoted-content"> <div style="color: rgb(0,0,0);background-color: rgb(255,255,255);font-family: garamond , new york , times , serif;font-size: 24.0px;"> <div id="yiv6013441102"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_2884"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_2883" style="color: rgb(0,0,0);background-color: rgb(255,255,255);font-family: garamond , new york , times , serif;font-size: 24.0px;"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3030"> </div> <div class="yiv6013441102qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3112"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3115">Phil,</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3526"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3238"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3233">I share your concern. Your problem your QSO station using a compound call sign ... which is what I do both when using FT8 and SSB. On FT8 I use W4/AH6FX and when doing so, the WSJT-X software <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3163">BY DESIGN</b> does not transmit your <b>grid</b> - which perhaps is your problem. The current Quick Start Guide says the <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3139">non-grid </b>for those with nonstandard calls [[like your QSO stations ... like my W4/AH6FX ... like W1ABC/MM etc etc]] is built into version 2 because of "real estate" problems. All previous FT8 versions worked ok for me - altho had to overcome a few problems initially ... and I used WSJT-X both in Virginia and Hawaii. </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3266"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3250">Ver2 has a 77 bit message "payload" limitation and nonstandard calls require more ... so there is no programming space for the grid. This causes HUGE PROBLEMS and is VERY frustrating to me because if I use W4/AH6FX or AH6FX/W4 my grid FM18 does not show. If I use AH6FX my FM18 grid shows but the DXCC entity shows as Hawaii. I can not win either way and some people send me nasty emails or nasty JT Alert text messages. </div> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3935"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_4033">So your WSJT-X version 2 auto sequencing is perhaps working ok and it is not forgetting to send you information - that is by design -- a faulty design in my opinion. So when it comes to logging FR/F1TCV, ZS/SP3CMX, E51DOM/MM, and others with compound calls ... you will have to manually look up their grids. You can still log them - just manually enter their grids - smile - and move on.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_4144"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_2911"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_2935">FYI - for more info on this problem ... see a few of my forum emails. Go to the WSJT Developers Archive [ <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/?viewmonth=201812" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/?viewmonth=201812</a> ] and look up these emails dated 12/21/2018 at 16:57:14 or 12/23/2018 at 17:48:22 or 12/23/2018 at 18:30:06.</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3052"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3053">Good luck Phil.</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3054"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3070"> Aloha from Virginia,</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3075"> Danny</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3316"> W4/AH6FX</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class=".yiv6013441102yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3328"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3106" style="font-family: garamond , new york , times , serif;font-size: 24.0px;"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3105" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue , Helvetica Neue , Helvetica , Arial , Lucida Grande , sans-serif;font-size: 16.0px;"> <div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546993695203_3327"><br/> </div> <div class="yiv6013441102yqt7696919792" id="yiv6013441102yqt13835"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3111"><font face="Arial" id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3110" size="2">On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 9:56 AM, "tm...@gm..." <tm...@gm...> wrote:</font></div> <div class="yiv6013441102y_msg_container" id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3104"> <div id="yiv6013441102"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3103"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3102" style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3508">Hi everyone,</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3109"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3509">I use the call ZS1/F5FDV during my stay in the Western Cape.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3108"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3101">Last year during a my previous stay I had no problem using this call with stations having long calls like mine.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3951"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3952">I use now wsjt-x 2.0 on a MacBook, last year it was rev1.8 if I remember well.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3510"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3511">Recently I figured out that when I try to respond to a call like FR/F1TCV, ZS/SP3CMX, or E51DOM/MM, the auto sequencing is not possible and the report message, which is present in the genmsg window, is trunked when displayed in the Rxfrequency window.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3512">The QSO is therefore impossible, probably due to missing information in the response message sent.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3953"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3513">I attached 3 screen copies of QSOs and 1 copy of my logbook of last year with long call QSOs properly logged.</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3516"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3740">Regards,</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3515"> </div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3730">Phil</div> <div id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3729">F5FDV</div> <div class="yiv6013441102signature" id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3514"> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"/> wsjt-devel mailing list<br clear="none"/> <a href="mailto:wsj...@li..." onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:wsj...@li...'; return false;" target="_blank">wsj...@li...</a><br clear="none"/> <a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel" id="yiv6013441102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546992191688_3728" target="_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel</a><br clear="none"/> <br clear="none"/> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ wsjt-devel mailing list wsj...@li... <a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel</a></div> </div> </div> <div> </div> <div class="signature"> </div></div></body></html> |
