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From: Rob M. <ro...@fi...> - 2014-10-17 18:26:49
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Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 Historically, we used mszip which I *thought* was generally derided in this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I'd be happy to be wrong about that. My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and -dcl switch) to override that, say to set it to "none" on build machines. One thought is to set "-dcl" to "none" in Debug builds by default? Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions? What do people think we should default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). Thoughts? _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ |
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From: Bob A. <bo...@jo...> - 2014-10-17 19:23:44
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On 17-Oct-14 14:26, Rob Mensching wrote: > > Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about > what the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: > https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 > > Historically, we used mszip which I **thought** was generally derided > in this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I'd be happy > to be wrong about that. > > My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of > course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was > to control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and --dcl > switch) to override that, say to set it to "none" on build machines. > One thought is to set "-dcl" to "none" in Debug builds by default? > > Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions? What do people think we should > default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). > > Thoughts? > We could do a simple benchmark (say, 100MB, mix of binaries and text) to see if, across a couple of scenarios, we hit a common "win." We're not going to cover every scenario but it should do to pick a default. I definitely approve the idea of default "none" compression for debug builds. In v4.x with hard links and proper use of obj\ and bin\, it should work really well. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ |
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From: John C. <JoC...@ja...> - 2014-10-17 19:26:53
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I like the idea of "none" for debug-it also would make it easy to figure out which is which (by sheer size if nothing else). Likewise, at least when the bundle is bound to the bootstrapper, maximum compression is best. Probably also true for MSI's and MSP's that will be downloaded over the wire to bootstrappers. Size matters. -- John Merryweather Cooper Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.(r) | Lenexa, KS 66214 | Ext: 431050 |JoC...@ja...<mailto:JoC...@ja...> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:ro...@fi...] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:27 PM To: WiX toolset developer mailing list Subject: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 Historically, we used mszip which I *thought* was generally derided in this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I'd be happy to be wrong about that. My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and -dcl switch) to override that, say to set it to "none" on build machines. One thought is to set "-dcl" to "none" in Debug builds by default? Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions? What do people think we should default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). Thoughts? _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. |
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From: Chris D. <csd...@gm...> - 2014-10-18 17:51:28
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I, too, like the idea of defaulting to None for Debug builds and High for Release builds. That seems consistent with the building of other project types (such as C++), where Release builds often include additional optimizations or other steps. -Chris- On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM, John Cooper <JoC...@ja...> wrote: > I like the idea of “none” for debug—it also would make it easy to figure > out which is which (by sheer size if nothing else). Likewise, at least > when the bundle is bound to the bootstrapper, maximum compression is best. > > > > Probably also true for MSI’s and MSP’s that will be downloaded over the > wire to bootstrappers. Size matters. > > > > -- > > *John Merryweather Cooper* > > Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing > Development > > Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.*® *| Lenexa, KS 66214 | Ext: 431050 | > JoC...@ja... > > > > > > > > *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:ro...@fi...] > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2014 1:27 PM > *To:* WiX toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? > > > > Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what > the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: > https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 > > > > Historically, we used mszip which I **thought** was generally derided in > this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I’d be happy to be > wrong about that. > > > > My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of > course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to > control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and –dcl switch) to > override that, say to set it to “none” on build machines. One thought is > to set “-dcl” to “none” in Debug builds by default? > > > > Anyway, I’m looking for suggestions? What do people think we should > default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | > http://www.firegiant.com/ > > > > > > NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are > intended > exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The > message, > together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. > Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or > distribution > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > |
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From: Stephen T. <ste...@gm...> - 2014-10-18 18:18:14
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We have found that the difference in size between medium and high is negligible but the time deltas to not line up. Medium compression is what we use for a large mix of binaries, graphics, PDFs, etc. Our installers are 350 megabytes minimum. We have "none" for our debug builds already. Having this as part of the framework would let us delete some code. Wouldn't it be better to leave this as a required field for release and force the user to evaluate which compression level suites them best? On 18 Oct 2014 13:52, "Chris Dahlberg" <csd...@gm...> wrote: > I, too, like the idea of defaulting to None for Debug builds and High for > Release builds. That seems consistent with the building of other project > types (such as C++), where Release builds often include additional > optimizations or other steps. > > -Chris- > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM, John Cooper <JoC...@ja...> > wrote: > >> I like the idea of “none” for debug—it also would make it easy to >> figure out which is which (by sheer size if nothing else). Likewise, at >> least when the bundle is bound to the bootstrapper, maximum compression is >> best. >> >> >> >> Probably also true for MSI’s and MSP’s that will be downloaded over the >> wire to bootstrappers. Size matters. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *John Merryweather Cooper* >> >> Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing >> Development >> >> Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.*® *| Lenexa, KS 66214 | Ext: 431050 | >> JoC...@ja... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:ro...@fi...] >> *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2014 1:27 PM >> *To:* WiX toolset developer mailing list >> *Subject:* [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? >> >> >> >> Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what >> the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: >> https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 >> >> >> >> Historically, we used mszip which I **thought** was generally derided in >> this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I’d be happy to be >> wrong about that. >> >> >> >> My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of >> course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to >> control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and –dcl switch) to >> override that, say to set it to “none” on build machines. One thought is >> to set “-dcl” to “none” in Debug builds by default? >> >> >> >> Anyway, I’m looking for suggestions? What do people think we should >> default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> >> FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | >> http://www.firegiant.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it >> are intended >> exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The >> message, >> together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged >> information. >> Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or >> distribution >> is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, >> please >> immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. >> Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. >> Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. >> Take corrective actions from your mobile device. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho >> _______________________________________________ >> WiX-devs mailing list >> WiX...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > |
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From: Rob M. <ro...@fi...> - 2014-10-19 01:02:27
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First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way we’ll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very important. Second, thank you for the data point on “medium” vs. “high”. I’ve heard that data point from others that the time difference doesn’t work out sometimes. Bob’s point about measuring is probably still a thing to do. _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ From: Stephen Tunney [mailto:ste...@gm...] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:18 AM To: WiX toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? We have found that the difference in size between medium and high is negligible but the time deltas to not line up. Medium compression is what we use for a large mix of binaries, graphics, PDFs, etc. Our installers are 350 megabytes minimum. We have "none" for our debug builds already. Having this as part of the framework would let us delete some code. Wouldn't it be better to leave this as a required field for release and force the user to evaluate which compression level suites them best? On 18 Oct 2014 13:52, "Chris Dahlberg" <csd...@gm...<mailto:csd...@gm...>> wrote: I, too, like the idea of defaulting to None for Debug builds and High for Release builds. That seems consistent with the building of other project types (such as C++), where Release builds often include additional optimizations or other steps. -Chris- On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM, John Cooper <JoC...@ja...<mailto:JoC...@ja...>> wrote: I like the idea of “none” for debug—it also would make it easy to figure out which is which (by sheer size if nothing else). Likewise, at least when the bundle is bound to the bootstrapper, maximum compression is best. Probably also true for MSI’s and MSP’s that will be downloaded over the wire to bootstrappers. Size matters. -- John Merryweather Cooper Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS 66214 | Ext: 431050 |JoC...@ja...<mailto:JoC...@ja...> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:ro...@fi...<mailto:ro...@fi...>] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:27 PM To: WiX toolset developer mailing list Subject: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 Historically, we used mszip which I *thought* was generally derided in this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I’d be happy to be wrong about that. My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and –dcl switch) to override that, say to set it to “none” on build machines. One thought is to set “-dcl” to “none” in Debug builds by default? Anyway, I’m looking for suggestions? What do people think we should default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). Thoughts? _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho _______________________________________________ WiX-devs mailing list WiX...@li...<mailto:WiX...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho _______________________________________________ WiX-devs mailing list WiX...@li...<mailto:WiX...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs |
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From: Stephen T. <ste...@gm...> - 2014-10-19 01:39:44
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I agree with your #1. #2 should include hardware specs that the stats are built on (SSD v. 15k SAS v. 5400 laptop drive), ram, CPU, etc. On 18 Oct 2014 21:04, "Rob Mensching" <ro...@fi...> wrote: > First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way > we’ll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the > Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very important. > > > > Second, thank you for the data point on “medium” vs. “high”. I’ve heard > that data point from others that the time difference doesn’t work out > sometimes. Bob’s point about measuring is probably still a thing to do. > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | > http://www.firegiant.com/ > > > > *From:* Stephen Tunney [mailto:ste...@gm...] > *Sent:* Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:18 AM > *To:* WiX toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? > > > > We have found that the difference in size between medium and high is > negligible but the time deltas to not line up. Medium compression is what > we use for a large mix of binaries, graphics, PDFs, etc. Our installers > are 350 megabytes minimum. > > We have "none" for our debug builds already. Having this as part of the > framework would let us delete some code. > > Wouldn't it be better to leave this as a required field for release and > force the user to evaluate which compression level suites them best? > > On 18 Oct 2014 13:52, "Chris Dahlberg" <csd...@gm...> wrote: > > I, too, like the idea of defaulting to None for Debug builds and High > for Release builds. That seems consistent with the building of other > project types (such as C++), where Release builds often include additional > optimizations or other steps. > > > > -Chris- > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM, John Cooper <JoC...@ja...> > wrote: > > I like the idea of “none” for debug—it also would make it easy to figure > out which is which (by sheer size if nothing else). Likewise, at least > when the bundle is bound to the bootstrapper, maximum compression is best. > > > > Probably also true for MSI’s and MSP’s that will be downloaded over the > wire to bootstrappers. Size matters. > > > > -- > > *John Merryweather Cooper* > > Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing > Development > > Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.*® *| Lenexa, KS 66214 | Ext: 431050 | > JoC...@ja... > > > > > > > > *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:ro...@fi...] > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2014 1:27 PM > *To:* WiX toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? > > > > Bob and I are having a little conversation on a pull request about what > the default compression level should be in the WiX toolset: > https://github.com/robmen/wix4/commit/edf0a4cc32992d918846631fe7a2338bbf700c08#commitcomment-8206079 > > > > Historically, we used mszip which I **thought** was generally derided in > this day and age in favor of LZX (low, medium, high). I’d be happy to be > wrong about that. > > > > My thinking was by default we should opt for the best compression. Of > course, that means the slowest build times. There are reasonable was to > control compression (WIX_COMPRESSION_LEVEL env var and –dcl switch) to > override that, say to set it to “none” on build machines. One thought is > to set “-dcl” to “none” in Debug builds by default? > > > > Anyway, I’m looking for suggestions? What do people think we should > default the compression level to in WiX v4.0 (since we can change it now). > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | > http://www.firegiant.com/ > > > > > > NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are > intended > exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The > message, > together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. > Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or > distribution > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > |
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From: Bob A. <bo...@jo...> - 2014-10-19 20:31:31
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On 18-Oct-14 21:02, Rob Mensching wrote: > > First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way > we'll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the > Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very > important. > > Second, thank you for the data point on "medium" vs. "high". I've > heard that data point from others that the time difference doesn't > work out sometimes. Bob's point about measuring is probably still a > thing to do. > Yep. http://www.joyofsetup.com/2014/10/19/cabinet-compression-testing/ -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ |
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From: Tunney, S. <Ste...@nu...> - 2014-10-20 13:39:06
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I am jealous of your setup :) From: Bob Arnson [mailto:bo...@jo...] Sent: October-19-14 4:31 PM To: wix...@li... Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? On 18-Oct-14 21:02, Rob Mensching wrote: First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way we'll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very important. Second, thank you for the data point on "medium" vs. "high". I've heard that data point from others that the time difference doesn't work out sometimes. Bob's point about measuring is probably still a thing to do. Yep. http://www.joyofsetup.com/2014/10/19/cabinet-compression-testing/ -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ |
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From: Chris D. <csd...@gm...> - 2014-10-22 01:53:10
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With cab count appearing to have even more of an impact on link time than the compression level, I agree that halving it to 100MB is a good idea. I think whether different defaults can be used for Debug vs. Release builds could somewhat determine what the best default values are. - If the same defaults are to be used for both Debug and Release, sticking with MSZip seems like the best option (based on a very simple lower-is-better ranking using [Link time] * [Cab size]). Changing from MSZip to Low wouldn't be terrible, either, but does result in a ~50% increase in link time for only an ~11% decrease in file size. - If different defaults can be used for Debug vs. Release, then I still think using None for Debug and High for Release would be ideal. Releases are often copied/downloaded many times, and dealing with a lengthier build process a small number of times to benefit from smaller file copies/downloads many times seems worth it to me. -Chris- On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Bob Arnson <bo...@jo...> wrote: > On 18-Oct-14 21:02, Rob Mensching wrote: > > First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way > we’ll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the > Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very important. > > > > Second, thank you for the data point on “medium” vs. “high”. I’ve heard > that data point from others that the time difference doesn’t work out > sometimes. Bob’s point about measuring is probably still a thing to do. > > Yep. http://www.joyofsetup.com/2014/10/19/cabinet-compression-testing/ > > -- > sig://boBhttp://joyofsetup.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. > Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. > Take corrective actions from your mobile device. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > _______________________________________________ > WiX-devs mailing list > WiX...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs > > |
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From: Bob A. <bo...@jo...> - 2014-10-22 15:05:15
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On 21-Oct-14 21:53, Chris Dahlberg wrote: > With cab count appearing to have even more of an impact on link time > than the compression level, I agree that halving it to 100MB is a good > idea. Generally true. The assumptions are that you have a big enough installer and have enough cores to benefit from multithreaded cabbing. > > * If different defaults can be used for Debug vs. Release, then I > still think using None for Debug and High for Release would be > ideal. Releases are often copied/downloaded many times, and > dealing with a lengthier build process a small number of times to > benefit from smaller file copies/downloads many times seems worth > it to me. > +1 -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ |
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From: Rob M. <ro...@fi...> - 2014-10-23 01:07:03
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I completely agree with this and #2 is straight forward to do below. We should be able to make it so. Should we get a WIP written up? _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ From: Chris Dahlberg [mailto:csd...@gm...] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:53 PM To: WiX toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] WiX v4.0 Default Compression Level? With cab count appearing to have even more of an impact on link time than the compression level, I agree that halving it to 100MB is a good idea. I think whether different defaults can be used for Debug vs. Release builds could somewhat determine what the best default values are. * If the same defaults are to be used for both Debug and Release, sticking with MSZip seems like the best option (based on a very simple lower-is-better ranking using [Link time] * [Cab size]). Changing from MSZip to Low wouldn't be terrible, either, but does result in a ~50% increase in link time for only an ~11% decrease in file size. * If different defaults can be used for Debug vs. Release, then I still think using None for Debug and High for Release would be ideal. Releases are often copied/downloaded many times, and dealing with a lengthier build process a small number of times to benefit from smaller file copies/downloads many times seems worth it to me. -Chris- On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Bob Arnson <bo...@jo...<mailto:bo...@jo...>> wrote: On 18-Oct-14 21:02, Rob Mensching wrote: First, picking reasonable defaults for things in WiX is the only way we’ll reduce the complexity. However, exposing the full power of the Windows Installer for those that want/need it is also still very important. Second, thank you for the data point on “medium” vs. “high”. I’ve heard that data point from others that the time difference doesn’t work out sometimes. Bob’s point about measuring is probably still a thing to do. Yep. http://www.joyofsetup.com/2014/10/19/cabinet-compression-testing/ -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho _______________________________________________ WiX-devs mailing list WiX...@li...<mailto:WiX...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-devs |
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From: Bob A. <bo...@jo...> - 2014-10-30 04:47:56
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On 22-Oct-14 21:06, Rob Mensching wrote: > > I completely agree with this and #2 is straight forward to do below. > We should be able to make it so. Should we get a WIP written up? > Does it need a WIP or just a note in the What's New document? -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ |
