Re: [Wirelessdriver-support] Mac OS9 driver for wireless card WPC11?

[Rob M. <ro...@ma...>]

I'm glad to hear that there hasn't been any infringement of licensing 
here or elsewhere.  I apologize for my incorrect assumption that there 
could have been a common ancestor.  I likely am not the only one who 
may have been wondering, hence my asking for a some clarification for 
all.  The license that the WirelessDriver project is currently under 
does allow for closed source and/or commercial variants, as long as 
credit is given, but we have noticed some abuse of this in the past 
from others.

I do think that both freeware/open source and commercial solutions can 
both exist here as they often (as is the case here) offer different 
levels of both features and support and end users vary both in their 
technical abilities and desire.  I think I can speak for a lot of us 
here that the input that has been given has been useful and that your 
choice of when and how to recommend your products has been appropriate 
and welcome further input, support and comments from you and your staff 
when you feel it appropriate.  My previous post was made mostly in an 
effort to help ensure that things remain helpful and clear to all 
involved.

-Rob McKeever
ro...@ma...


On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 10:45 Canada/Pacific, Dave Koziol wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 01:24 PM, Rob McKeever wrote:
>
>> I don't have any objection to Dave or Amanda pointing out that their 
>> product exists and may be a valid alternative for some people.  I 
>> would prefer, though, that these posts make it clear that theirs is a 
>> commercial product, the post is an advertisement and is independent 
>> of this project.  I would expect anyone else choosing to advertise a 
>> product via this list to be held to these same standards.
>
> We only point out our driver when people ask about things the open 
> source driver doesn't do, like Mac OS 9 support in this case.  We will 
> attempt to make it more clear that our product is a commercial 
> product, separate from the open source WirelessDriver.
>
>> Perhaps Dave or Amanda can comment on the distinct similarities 
>> between our open sourced WirelessDriver, licensed under a slightly 
>> modified version of the BSD license, and their own product.  I get 
>> the impression that the IOXperts driver could likely be a derivative 
>> work and, if so, is in violation of the licensing terms as it does 
>> not give credit to the WirelessDriver project and/or it's developers, 
>> past and present.  If it is, I would like this corrected and a public 
>> apology issued.  If it isn't, I think we can all happily co-exist and 
>> perhaps further each others objectives.
>
> The IOXperts driver is NOT a derivative work of ANY driver.
>
> The IOXperts driver was developed 100% by Amanda Walker and the rest 
> of the IOXperts staff.  It is not in any way, shape, or form a 
> modified version of the open sourced WirelessDriver.
>
> Please don't make public accusations about the legality of our 
> products.
>
> I would welcome a public apology for your incorrect assumption, in the 
> same way you asked for a public apology if we used any of the open 
> source WirelessDriver's code.
>
> We are happy to co-exist with the open source WirelessDriver, however, 
> we do insist that accusations like this are not made about our 
> products.
>
> Dave Koziol
> VP of Engineering
> IOXperts, Inc.
>