Hi,
I am one of the leaders of the OpenOffice Bibliographic project. I have had a query about whether Wikindx can 'work with' OpenOffice. I can see that users can import a rtf Bibliographic/reference table. Do you have any plans for providing a citation insertion tool for Openoffice ?
The only interfunctionality wikindx has with OO.org is the ability to export RTF -- either a bibliographic list or a RTF formatted article from the integrated wotrd processor that has all citations automatically formatted.
A 'citation insertion tool' (is there such a tool in OO.org?) sounds great but I suspect it would need to wait until I can find someone who is able to program for OO.org. I'm imagining such a tool would be some sort of plug-in that sits in OO.org and through which users can insert items from the wikindx directly into the document. If so, does OO.org have the ability to reformat that citation from say APA to MLA?
I would love to encourage users to migrate from MS Office to OO.org but I only do PHP and have no understanding of the internals of OO.org. I would welcome any developmental help.
Mark.
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OpenOffice does has a basic bibliographic database and citation and bibliographic table generation. It's citation formatting is rudimentary, it just copies the citation text field from ID field in database, or inserts a number if that is the style selected. So currently wikindx citation and bibliographic formatting is better. But we have plans to greatly improve OpenOffice.
Regarding possible interaction between the two. You can call OO.org functions externally and so 'push' the citation into a document at the current cursor position. Alternatively someone could write a small add-on program to run inside OO.org to select the Wikindx citation display text and meta-data.
We plan to build the new OO.org bibliographic facility to work from multiple data sources and and also to allow alternative citation insertion and bibliographic formatting mechanisms.
regards and good luck
David
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OpenOffice has built bridges to its API in C++, Java and Python. So the skill needed would be good C++, Java or Python programming and some XML skills with knowledge of, or willingness to learn, the OpenOffice UNO, see the Openoffice Developer's Guide. This guide is well documented but large. http://api.openoffice.org/DevelopersGuide/DevelopersGuide.html. The main developer site is http://development.openoffice.org/index.html
Any questions can addressed to dev@bibliographic.openoffice.org or to me at dnw@openoffice.org . We will provide what help we can.
Good Luck
David
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Hi,
I am one of the leaders of the OpenOffice Bibliographic project. I have had a query about whether Wikindx can 'work with' OpenOffice. I can see that users can import a rtf Bibliographic/reference table. Do you have any plans for providing a citation insertion tool for Openoffice ?
David N. Wilson
Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic
OpenOffice Project
http://bibliographic.openoffice.org
Hi David,
The only interfunctionality wikindx has with OO.org is the ability to export RTF -- either a bibliographic list or a RTF formatted article from the integrated wotrd processor that has all citations automatically formatted.
A 'citation insertion tool' (is there such a tool in OO.org?) sounds great but I suspect it would need to wait until I can find someone who is able to program for OO.org. I'm imagining such a tool would be some sort of plug-in that sits in OO.org and through which users can insert items from the wikindx directly into the document. If so, does OO.org have the ability to reformat that citation from say APA to MLA?
I would love to encourage users to migrate from MS Office to OO.org but I only do PHP and have no understanding of the internals of OO.org. I would welcome any developmental help.
Mark.
OpenOffice does has a basic bibliographic database and citation and bibliographic table generation. It's citation formatting is rudimentary, it just copies the citation text field from ID field in database, or inserts a number if that is the style selected. So currently wikindx citation and bibliographic formatting is better. But we have plans to greatly improve OpenOffice.
Regarding possible interaction between the two. You can call OO.org functions externally and so 'push' the citation into a document at the current cursor position. Alternatively someone could write a small add-on program to run inside OO.org to select the Wikindx citation display text and meta-data.
We plan to build the new OO.org bibliographic facility to work from multiple data sources and and also to allow alternative citation insertion and bibliographic formatting mechanisms.
regards and good luck
David
Hi David,
For this:
"Alternatively someone could write a small add-on program to run inside OO.org to select the Wikindx citation display text and meta-data."
if I were to advertise here on SF for someone with the skills to do this, what programming knowledge would they require?
Mark.
First, the Bibus bibliographic application has already built citation insertion into OpenOffice (and MS Word). So you do not have to build it from scratch. See http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/bibus_doc/html/en/usingOOo.html#OOo_menu
For details of OpenOffice bibliographic implementation I would humbly recommend our own developer pages. See http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bibliographic_Project's_Developer_Page where you may have have avoid the allure of our project.
OpenOffice has built bridges to its API in C++, Java and Python. So the skill needed would be good C++, Java or Python programming and some XML skills with knowledge of, or willingness to learn, the OpenOffice UNO, see the Openoffice Developer's Guide. This guide is well documented but large. http://api.openoffice.org/DevelopersGuide/DevelopersGuide.html. The main developer site is http://development.openoffice.org/index.html
Any questions can addressed to dev@bibliographic.openoffice.org or to me at dnw@openoffice.org . We will provide what help we can.
Good Luck
David
Thanks David,
I'll have a look through the bibus site.
Mark.