RE: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together

[Patrick L. <pli...@ho...>]

Agreed. I'm working on OSWorkflow (it's actual in a stable state, just no 
webpage/docs/release yet). I know that the expression language in WebWork 
could be very useful in OSWorkflow.

Likewise, OSCore has some utilities (BeanUtil comes to mind) that could be 
replaced by those found in WebWork.

User management is a huge one. OSUser and WebWork could have some very nice 
integration points I'm sure (while still not requiring each other).

The list could go on for many pages I'm sure. As per Rickard's comment that 
some components in OS are good and some are... sub par, that is true. But 
that's a given, I mean not all projects can be in polished shape at the same 
time. Every project is evolving. I'm working very hard with any spare time I 
get to polish OSUser, OSCore, and OSWorkflow and provide good documentation 
and website "marketting". I think WebWork would fit very nicely in to the 
projects offered by OpenSymphony, but obviously I'm very biased here (OS 
developer and diehard WebWork user).

I'd really hate to see WebWork join up with JBoss for the reasons previsouly 
mentioned. I don't think it would be a negative move for WebWork, but I 
believe that it wouldn't really be positive either. Going with OpenSymphony 
would not only be a positive move, it would also be a good fit technically.

-Pat


>From: François Beauregard <fbe...@py...>
>Reply-To: <fbe...@py...>
>To: <web...@li...>
>Subject: RE: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:08:10 -0500
>
> > > I think it makes more sense technically to integrate OS and WW.
> > Even if technically there is no integration to be made? Or what would
> > that imply, specifically?
>I have not tought about all the technical possibilities but here are some:
>- Unified configuration file
>- Management/Monitoring console
>- Tag libraries
>- I am sure there are ways to take advantage of OSCache in a nice manner in
>WW beside simply just using the tags
>- I am sure we can also come up with ideas related to SiteMesh
>- There is probably also oportunities with OSUser
>- Some things in OSCore can probably be migrated into WW and then keep very
>general stuff in OSCore move other stuff out of OSCore into OSCoreEJB
>- Other great ideas that would come out of community discussions
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rickard [mailto:ri...@mi...]
>Sent: April 3, 2002 4:18 PM
>To: fbe...@py...
>Cc: web...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together
>
>
>François Beauregard wrote:
>
> > I think it makes more sense technically to integrate OS and WW.
>
>
>Even if technically there is no integration to be made? Or what would
>that imply, specifically?
>
>
> > The idea is to come up with value added components that can be used in 
>any
> > J2EE environment (including JBoss).
> > Mike explained in a previous post the reasoning behind the Open Symphony
> > name.
> > Components developed in a truly open source and community philosophy 
>that
> > work together as a Symphony.
>
>
>Yes, that is very clear to me.
>
>
> > Therefore, I vote to keep the already made decision of slowly 
>integrating
>WW
> > into OS by first :
> > - Create a section for WW on OS's site
> > - Issue a press release annoucing the collaboration, the reasonning 
>behind
> > and the goals
> > - Come up with ideas to enhance using OS components and WW together
>(unified
> > configuration file, management console, overlaps, ...). May be create a
> > subproject who would be responsible for this.
> > - Components should always be usable on their own but be easily 
>integrated
> > in a complete framework for J2EE. This promotes highly modularized and
> > customizable components.
>
>
>But this has not much to do with the decision, but rather the execution
>of the decision if made in OS's favor.
>
>
> > I also like Mike's idea of a showcase application using WW that runs on
> > JBoss and use it a promotion for JBoss, WW and OS.
> > (Please don't start a discussion on joining the three)
>
>
>Hehe...
>
>
> > Bottom line :
> > Integrating OS and WW make sense both technically and from a promotion
>point
> > of view.
> > Some combined promotion effort by JBoss and WW also makes sense.
>
>
>Is the technical point about configuration? Or is there more to it?
>
>/Rickard
>
>--
>Rickard Öberg
>
>
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