Re: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together

[Rickard <ri...@mi...>]

Chris Miller wrote:

> The only way to avoid that confusion is to create a
> *new* brandname that is an umbrella for JBoss and WW, or alternatively =
go to
> the trouble of truly establishing JBoss as an umbrella brand, that cont=
ains
> JBoss Application Server, WW etc.


I doubt that will happen.


> But what's the point, when there already exists such a beast going by t=
he
> name of OpenSymphony?


What's the point of a Ford when there are Volkswagens? I see where=20
you're going with that point, for sure, but it can be argued the other=20
way round too. Otherwise we would be stuck in the "so why make another=20
framework when we have Struts?" argument still.


> As several people have pointed out in this thread, OpenSymphony is a pe=
rfect
> match for WW. OSUser, Sitemesh et al compliment WW very nicely indeed -
> surely that cannot be denied?=20


You are absolutely correct, and I don't think anyone has said otherwise=20
either.

> OpenSymphony's 'umbrella' struture parallels
> Jakarta which will help ease the transition for new users. There have b=
een
> several other fairly compelling reasons mentioned on this list, all of =
which
> to me make the move seem very sensible indeed.


The main reason against OpenSymphony (that I can think of) is the high=20
quality differences between the projects. Some are outstanding and some=20
are, well, on the other side of the scale.


> I fear my voice is wasted, since, as was pointed out in the not too dis=
tant
> past, we're not dealing with a democracy here. That I can even understa=
nd
> and live with, as long as the decision makers make decisions based on l=
ogic
> rather than desires.

I hear you. Good points, and thanks for your input.

This is a tough decision, and which is important for the overall=20
direction of WW. I would appreciate if more input as Chris just provided=20
was being put forth. Democracy no, but certainly no dictatorship either=20
(in the strictest sense of the word anyway).

/Rickard

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Rickard =D6berg