Re: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together

[Victor S. <vsa...@ho...>]

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>>I just see nothing that could be added to WebWork relating to JBoss, since 
>>as a tool it is used to make applications, and is therefore not part of 
>>the environment.
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>Ok. So, since WW is so well encapsulated and generic, by the above logic 
>there would be no point in joining any umbrella organization whatsoever, 
>including OpenSymphony.
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>Right? I can see no other conclusion from your above statement.
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Well, there is a point in joining an umbrella organization when everyone is 
getting something positive out of it.

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>>We just should not ride in a marketing bus without a reason since it's 
>>pointless.
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>Sure, but there is a point. Why do you think app vendors are 
>buying&integrating frameworks into their suites? Because users want as 
>complete a framework as possible, and if something is officially shipped 
>with the appserver it's sure to work with it.
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Agreed.

>>There are far better ways of marketing than to be out of focus! :) I bet 
>>you love those nice "Buy me now" banner ads popping up when you're reading 
>>a news article in JDJ or JavaWorld!, and the item has nothing to do with 
>>what you're reading, or interesting to reading audience.
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>You're rambling. Get to the point.
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Rambling is always good.. Ask Apache :)

>>Orion for example, is superior to Weblogic, but have poor docs, and 
>>extremely lame marketing, nonetheless the product is better.... but BEA 
>>markets their product, Ironflare hmmmm....
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>But this is contradictory to your initial argument that WW should not join 
>JBoss.
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>You're confusing.
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Now you're confusing me! But let's not waste bandwidth on this...

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>>My point is... Instead of trying to catch someone else's wave... let's 
>>work towards creating a wave....
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>If that's your point, then why the above argument which points in the 
>opposite direction!?
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Again, I am confused.... again, let's leave it there and not waste any more 
bandwidth on this.

/V


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