Re: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together

[Victor S. <vsa...@ho...>]

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>Please refrain from using this kind of comments.

Why? Have somehow cigarretes been banned in Sweden? :)

>I don't think it's the technical part of it, just as there would be no 
>technical point in going with OpenSymphony.
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I have a different opinion, since technically both are tools that complement 
each other mostly in order to deliver a great development platform to the 
end user. Marketing-wise, none of the two groups have a powerful exposure, 
so the point is all technical.

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>>WW is also decoupled technology that is meant to be a multi-purpose 
>>framework not only for web but for any type of application. By focusing on 
>>integration we're just diluting the original intent of the product.
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>Noone said integration. You did.
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Actually, Matt did.

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I think OS has done a good job and working with them would be good, but
throwing in a new opportunity such as JBoss adds a new twist. For instance,
Jetty is a separate project that is embedded in JBoss so why not WW? I
believe JBoss could use a good web tier framework, and I think its coat
tails have grown since it won best app server from JavaWorld. In addition, I
know Jakarta solicited them to come aboard but Marc set them straight. So,
my vote is JBoss. I think WW has the greatest potential to grow under
JBoss's umbrella.

My $0.02
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"I believe JBoss could use a good web tier framework" -- Matt

>>By even thinking on integrating to a specific vendor, we're already 
>>loosing userbase, as a lot of people using WW are not jBoss/Jetty, 
>>jBoss/Tomcat users and some will never be.
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>Your reasoning is peculiar since there are many other cases of projects 
>(Velocity, Struts, log4j) where they are used with servers other than that 
>of the umbrella organization (Jakarta/Tomcat).
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>What's your point?
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Those are all tools. Tools are meant to be cross-used. There's a big 
difference between Tools and AppServers. Would BEA replace their Web 
container with Tomcat or Jetty? after all, they're free and have a 
non-restrictive licensing model. On the other hand, a WL user can use 
Velocity, Struts, Webwork or Log4J :) ... That's my point.


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