Re: [Webwork-devel] WW/JavaOne get together

[Victor S. <vsa...@ho...>]

>I think OS has done a good job and working with them would be good, but
>throwing in a new opportunity such as JBoss adds a new twist. For instance,
>Jetty is a separate project that is embedded in JBoss so why not WW? I
>believe JBoss could use a good web tier framework, and I think its coat
>tails have grown since it won best app server from JavaWorld. In addition, 
>I
>know Jakarta solicited them to come aboard but Marc set them straight. So,
>my vote is JBoss. I think WW has the greatest potential to grow under
>JBoss's umbrella.
>

Matt,

With all due respect, What are you smoking? The reason for Jetty being 
integrated with jBoss is because jBoss has no web container. And that being 
the case, jboss needed to be integrated to a web container to avoid being 
chewed up by the competition. That is all well and understandable.

JBoss is an excellent revolutionary product which has a lot of potential, 
but it's still an appserver, and WW is a framework to be used on any 
appserver  (with webcontainer or not). I really don't see what could be 
gained technically by integrating WW to jBoss (and I really don't know what 
there is to integrate, as WW already works flawlessly in most 
environments... if you do, please enlighten me!).

WW is also decoupled technology that is meant to be a multi-purpose 
framework not only for web but for any type of application. By focusing on 
integration we're just diluting the original intent of the product.

<rant>
And if what you're suffering is Struts envy, everytime you feel that way, 
write a JavaWorld article :) ... The only reason it has a strong userbase is 
because of marketing merits not technical ones.
</rant>

By even thinking on integrating to a specific vendor, we're already loosing 
userbase, as a lot of people using WW are not jBoss/Jetty, jBoss/Tomcat 
users and some will never be.


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