Re: [Webwork-devel] [Fwd: WebWork - OpenSymphony]

[Mike Cannon-B. <mi...@at...>]

Maurice,

All good points - I'll respond below.

On 12/2/02 3:24 PM, "Maurice Parker" (Ma...@Vi...) penned
the words:
>> - Extended community
> 
> I've often thought that an strong alternative to the Apache projects was
> needed for Open Source Java projects.  Something with higher quality code,
> more intelligent conversation on the lists, and a friendlier community.

Strongly agree. 

>> - Web Site Infrastructure provided by OpenSymphony
> 
> OS does have a nice clean sight design that would save the WW team some
> effort if it was leveraged.

Going to get better soon, just got to get one of the guys here to finish off
his new design.
 
>> - WebWork complements very well existing OpenSymphony modules such as
>> SiteMesh and OSCache (vice-versa).
>> - More complete J2EE platform
>> - Independance of WebWork not affected. It would only be promoted as part
>> of a larger Open Source effort.
> 
> All good points.
> 
> My only potential con has to do with the relationship between OpenSymphony
> and Atlassian.  Maybe Mike and/or Victor could shed some light on
> Atlassian's corporate sponsorship and what influence Atlassian has on the
> OpenSymphony projects?

This is a very valid point - I should have mentioned it before, forgive me.

Firstly let me say there's nothing nefarious or evil going on here!

OpenSymphony is the Open Source project I founded back in 1999 with Joe
Walnes and the other core developers joined in the time since then.

Atlassian is the J2EE software and support company that I started after I
left internet.com in August 2001.

Atlassian is the major 'commercial backer' of OS at the moment, meaning we
provide a lot of the code, time, organisation, server space, documentation
etc - in exchange for community reputation, consulting work and hopefully
support from companies that use J2EE.

This is not to indicate in any way that OS is a commercial project - it is
not by any means. It was started by dedicated J2EE people, is run by
dedicated J2EE people for the benefit of J2EE users - true scratching an
itch.

At the moment our only branding is the ad in the top right hand corner of
the site - but I'm more than happy to review this if it's an issue. (I've
discussed with others before - perhaps what's best is to have a banner
rotation system, with each of the major developers' companies being able to
promote themselves there in exchange for their time contributions?)

> Everyone from OpenSymphony seems pretty cool to me and considering how
> much cross over is happening anyway, it looks like a natural fit.

Thanks mate - we are all cool. BTW a lot of us will be at JavaOne this
March, so we can all sink a few beers together.
 
-mike