From: Michael M. <mi...@th...> - 2004-02-07 03:18:59
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I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about this project? It's a super program. -- Michael Montagne mi...@th... http://www.themontagnes.com |
From: David R. <dav...@ya...> - 2004-02-07 18:04:11
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--- Michael Montagne <mi...@th...> wrote: > I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved > getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But > progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about > this project? It's a super program. I suppose many Webware users are in my position. I wanted a soundly architected but minimally intrusive way of exposing Python code (especially complex frameworks that can run in other-than-web contexts) via HTTP. Webware provides that; I don't really have any complaints, so I'm not agitating for change. An environment such as Zope offers a lot of prefabricated functionality that Webware doesn't, but at a heavy cost in intrusiveness. For me, Webware's unintrusiveness delivers long-term maintainability benefits in complex projects that offset the laboriousness of constructing the skeleton. For simple projects, the scales would probably tip the other way. But simple projects have a way of not remaining so as the users incrementally pile on requirements. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html |
From: Max I. <ma...@uc...> - 2004-02-09 07:49:24
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David Rushby wrote: >>I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved >>getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But >>progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about >>this project? It's a super program. > > > I suppose many Webware users are in my position. > > I wanted a soundly architected but minimally intrusive way of exposing > Python code (especially complex frameworks that can run in > other-than-web contexts) via HTTP. Webware provides that; I don't > really have any complaints, so I'm not agitating for change. > > An environment such as Zope offers a lot of prefabricated functionality > that Webware doesn't, but at a heavy cost in intrusiveness. For me, > Webware's unintrusiveness delivers long-term maintainability benefits > in complex projects that offset the laboriousness of constructing the > skeleton. Very well said. 100% agreed. |
From: Eric R. <th...@er...> - 2004-02-08 02:13:24
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Michael, I've been using Webware on several of my servers running Apache 2 on x86 and Sparc. It seems to be very stable. Since it's pure Python Webware remains current and extensible because of the Python community. I would recommend it for web-applications of any size. Eric Radman Sys Admin TEI Internet Services On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 03:18, Michael Montagne wrote: > I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved > getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But > progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about > this project? It's a super program. > > > |
From: Tracy S. R. <tr...@re...> - 2004-02-08 05:35:33
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I've been using it for almost 2 years now for a custom web application that= I've built for several large clients. It's easy to use and very easy to integrate with any existing work. The co= mmunity gets quiet from time to time but when I've had problems, the people on the email list were very responsi= ve. I'd recommend it, too. --Tracy Ruggles On 2/7/04 at 3:02 PM -0000, Eric Radman said: >Michael, > >I've been using Webware on several of my servers running Apache 2 on x86 >and Sparc. It seems to be very stable. Since it's pure Python Webware >remains current and extensible because of the Python community. > >I would recommend it for web-applications of any size. > >Eric Radman >Sys Admin >TEI Internet Services > >On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 03:18, Michael Montagne wrote: >> I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved >> getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But >> progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about >> this project? It's a super program. |
From: Andreas P. <a.p...@ac...> - 2004-02-08 17:15:49
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* Tracy S. Ruggles <tr...@re...> [040208 06:40]: > I've been using it for almost 2 years now for a custom web application > that I've built for several large clients. > It's easy to use and very easy to integrate with any existing work. > The community gets quiet from time to time > but when I've had problems, the people on the email list were very > responsive. > > I'd recommend it, too. I can confirm these statements. I've done a lot of projects with Webware and I really like it's stability, reliability and performance. In my experience it's a solid base for web applications of any kind. -- Andi |
From: Aaron H. <aa...@me...> - 2004-02-08 06:09:22
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Want to get excited about webware? Browse the zope 3 docs and then pick up a book on J2EE ot Stuts. -Aaron I had a thought about the fact that patches and bugfixes seems to be getting more organized. I tried to articulate it but could not. Nothing good can come from reading mailing lists at 1am Michael Montagne wrote: >I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved >getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But >progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about >this project? It's a super program. > > > > > > |
From: Luke O. <lu...@me...> - 2004-02-09 20:21:07
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As most other people have said, it just feels pretty mature. We use it here for nearly all of our custom database websites, over 30 currently live for various local clients, plus various internal tools and webapps. The growth and progress has been in other areas, frameworks that work on top of Webware or that are useful with or without it. Personally, SQLObject and FFK provide more of my framework than Webware does on a daily basis, but all on top of the stable functioning base of Webware. - Luke Quoting Michael Montagne <mi...@th...>: > I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved > getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But > progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about > this project? It's a super program. |
From: Ian M. <ian...@ya...> - 2004-02-11 01:19:45
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Hello All, I have just recently ported my Webware application to a FreeBSD server and I am having some trouble with it that I cannot seem to figure out. Here is what I am using: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0 Webware-0.8.1.tar.gz mod_webkit adapter apache 1.3.28 python 2.2.3 The machine hosting me is either a VM or a chroot jail. I don't have access to raw sockets. Other than that, I don't have further details of the configuration but can ask my hoster if someone thinks the info might help solve the problem. What is happening: Basically Webware just stops accepting requests. The process is still running with the state of 'lockf' (important?) but it just doesn't respond. Usually Webware just stops answering and the 'verbose' output shows the last request but no response is given: 363 2004-02-08 13:31:54 /WK/Context/Example (no 363 response) I am getting the following message at the end of the output LOG I am keeping: StreamOut Error: (54, 'Connection reset by peer') Which I believe comes from the ThreadedAppServer.py module at line 446. I am really at a loss for where to start chasing down this problem. I have been running Webware for over 2 years without any problems, so I guess I am a little bit spoiled. Any thoughts or suggestions? Any more information needed? thanks in advance, Ian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html |
From: Eric R. <th...@er...> - 2004-02-11 12:18:52
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Perhaps lines 656-658 are not working correctly with this FreeBSD setup? #give the old response a dummy streamout- nasty hack, better idea anyone? trans.response()._strmOut = ASStreamOut() req._transaction = trans #this is needed by dispatchRequest I'm not sure why the "old response" needs an instance of ASStreamOut. Eric Radman On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 01:19, Ian Maurer wrote: > Hello All, > > I have just recently ported my Webware application to a FreeBSD > server and I am having some trouble with it that I cannot seem to > figure out. > > Here is what I am using: > > FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0 > Webware-0.8.1.tar.gz > mod_webkit adapter > apache 1.3.28 > python 2.2.3 > > The machine hosting me is either a VM or a chroot jail. I don't > have access to raw sockets. Other than that, I don't have further > details of the configuration but can ask my hoster if someone thinks > the info might help solve the problem. > > What is happening: > > Basically Webware just stops accepting requests. The process is still > running with the state of 'lockf' (important?) but it just doesn't > respond. > > Usually Webware just stops answering and the 'verbose' output > shows the last request but no response is given: > > 363 2004-02-08 13:31:54 /WK/Context/Example > > (no 363 response) > > I am getting the following message at the end of the output LOG > I am keeping: > > StreamOut Error: (54, 'Connection reset by peer') > > Which I believe comes from the ThreadedAppServer.py module at line > 446. > > I am really at a loss for where to start chasing down this problem. > I have been running Webware for over 2 years without any problems, > so I guess I am a little bit spoiled. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? Any more information needed? > > thanks in advance, > Ian > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Webware-discuss mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss |