Is this project still active? This is a nicest script I've found for this exact, intended use, but it has a few issues (or *I* do). Rather than reinventing the wheel myself, I wonder if anything else has happened with version 1.0?
Thanks... and it's a GREAT start for me if I take it from here!
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Unforunately I've not had the time to take this any further as I'm busy with work and a couple other projects. There are several things that ned to be cleaned up and improved.
If you would like, I can grant you cvs access to take it further. If need be also administrator access for release and potential take-over/hand-off.
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phpWebNotes is active again (with 84% activity), we are currently working on phpWebNotes 2.0.0 which is almost a re-write of phpWebNotes 1.0.0 with many extra features.
Let me know if you are interested to contribute with ideas or development work.
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Wow! I'm glad to see so much activity in the CVS. I have version 1.0 working with some modifications on my Mac OS X printing site. I may start testing version 2, and I'll contribute to the bug tracker!
I'd considering doing a rewrite of version 1.0 myself, but, like you, I hadn't the time.
The *nicest* thing I like about version 1.0 is the simplicity!
Some things I did to version 1.0 to get it to work for me:
(1) changed the administrator password to plain text from the mySQL interface, and removed all encryption from the php files. For some reason, encryption seemed to work fine on my local Darwin system but not my webhost (some generic Linux). Sure, there's the possibility someone'll sniff my password, but there's not a whole lot of damage that could be done at this point.
(2) some little formatting tuneups to make the appearance fit better with my site.
(3) Changed the "Email" field to read "Email or Name" and removed the link in the display of the comments.
(4) Made "Manage" and "Admin" static on the notes display... for some reason IsModerator never worked, i.e., my login wasn't recognized. So, I added a login check at the beginning of the Manage page. Since I'm the only "user" this is an acceptable compromise, (Tried Mozilla 1.1 on OSX/Win98, and IE on Win98), and those who don't know the password are still locked out.
(5) I PLAN to make non-indexed pages index themselves automatically when accessed.
On the last note, I'm not even sure why indexing needs to be done; when I dig deeper maybe I'll find out why. Are comments automatically purged when a previously-indexed page is missing on the next index? I imagine that would be a valid reason for enforcing a page index, but then again, changing the filename by accident could result in losing all of the comments!
I've also considered removing __FILE__ and using my own static symbols -- not as effortless, but it could allow page renaming, moving, and the sharing of comments across pages.
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Great... I am sure with a site that is already using v1.0.0, you will have a lot of valuable input into the project.
Regarding the v1.0.0, I think it was a 'basic' or 'prototype' version. There is a lot of potential in this area and I believe we should work towards it. While as you said maintaining simplicity. As you pointed out, the UI is a bit rough, and can be simplified. Please see the website (http://webnotes.sourceforge.net) where an initial roadmap is in place (not final). The direction now is not just to improve the product, but to increase the visibility of the project and build the infrastructure, and hence, get more feedback and contributors. We want to keep this project alive!
Mentioning that you were thinking of a re-write (which is basically what I am doing right now), I was wondering if you need cvs access, in order to contribute your modifications. A lot of the ideas you listed above are already planned (although we are a bit short in resources).
Rather odd to see this subject on a message dated almost two years ago. I got here via mantis, which I heavily use as my "todo system" (more than bugtracking) and I couldn't help noticing "vboctor" replying in this thread that it is "very much alive", ahem, that was 2002-09-08. As I'm looking for a good manual system for my own project (phplist - sf.net/projects/phplist), I found this via mantis (that I use heavily) but the question still stands as per subject. We all know how crucial this is in OSS.
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The current version of phpWebnotes is the one used in Mantis manual as you noticed and we don't have any issues with it. So it is pretty stable. When I wrote the post above I was actually making a code re-write, so it was very active back then.
I am happy to provide some support for this project, but I would like to get a person or two to help with the continous improvement. I will probably advertise "Project Help Wanted".
Bottom line: it is not active, but I think it is not dead.
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Is this project still active? This is a nicest script I've found for this exact, intended use, but it has a few issues (or *I* do). Rather than reinventing the wheel myself, I wonder if anything else has happened with version 1.0?
Thanks... and it's a GREAT start for me if I take it from here!
Unforunately I've not had the time to take this any further as I'm busy with work and a couple other projects. There are several things that ned to be cleaned up and improved.
If you would like, I can grant you cvs access to take it further. If need be also administrator access for release and potential take-over/hand-off.
phpWebNotes is active again (with 84% activity), we are currently working on phpWebNotes 2.0.0 which is almost a re-write of phpWebNotes 1.0.0 with many extra features.
Let me know if you are interested to contribute with ideas or development work.
Wow! I'm glad to see so much activity in the CVS. I have version 1.0 working with some modifications on my Mac OS X printing site. I may start testing version 2, and I'll contribute to the bug tracker!
I'd considering doing a rewrite of version 1.0 myself, but, like you, I hadn't the time.
The *nicest* thing I like about version 1.0 is the simplicity!
Some things I did to version 1.0 to get it to work for me:
(1) changed the administrator password to plain text from the mySQL interface, and removed all encryption from the php files. For some reason, encryption seemed to work fine on my local Darwin system but not my webhost (some generic Linux). Sure, there's the possibility someone'll sniff my password, but there's not a whole lot of damage that could be done at this point.
(2) some little formatting tuneups to make the appearance fit better with my site.
(3) Changed the "Email" field to read "Email or Name" and removed the link in the display of the comments.
(4) Made "Manage" and "Admin" static on the notes display... for some reason IsModerator never worked, i.e., my login wasn't recognized. So, I added a login check at the beginning of the Manage page. Since I'm the only "user" this is an acceptable compromise, (Tried Mozilla 1.1 on OSX/Win98, and IE on Win98), and those who don't know the password are still locked out.
(5) I PLAN to make non-indexed pages index themselves automatically when accessed.
On the last note, I'm not even sure why indexing needs to be done; when I dig deeper maybe I'll find out why. Are comments automatically purged when a previously-indexed page is missing on the next index? I imagine that would be a valid reason for enforcing a page index, but then again, changing the filename by accident could result in losing all of the comments!
I've also considered removing __FILE__ and using my own static symbols -- not as effortless, but it could allow page renaming, moving, and the sharing of comments across pages.
Great... I am sure with a site that is already using v1.0.0, you will have a lot of valuable input into the project.
Regarding the v1.0.0, I think it was a 'basic' or 'prototype' version. There is a lot of potential in this area and I believe we should work towards it. While as you said maintaining simplicity. As you pointed out, the UI is a bit rough, and can be simplified. Please see the website (http://webnotes.sourceforge.net) where an initial roadmap is in place (not final). The direction now is not just to improve the product, but to increase the visibility of the project and build the infrastructure, and hence, get more feedback and contributors. We want to keep this project alive!
Mentioning that you were thinking of a re-write (which is basically what I am doing right now), I was wondering if you need cvs access, in order to contribute your modifications. A lot of the ideas you listed above are already planned (although we are a bit short in resources).
To have a feel of the new look of v2.0.0 (using the phpnet theme), visit:
http://webnotes.sourceforge.net/phpWebNotes-2.0.0-dev/sample/xml.php
Looking forward to hear from you.
Rather odd to see this subject on a message dated almost two years ago. I got here via mantis, which I heavily use as my "todo system" (more than bugtracking) and I couldn't help noticing "vboctor" replying in this thread that it is "very much alive", ahem, that was 2002-09-08. As I'm looking for a good manual system for my own project (phplist - sf.net/projects/phplist), I found this via mantis (that I use heavily) but the question still stands as per subject. We all know how crucial this is in OSS.
The current version of phpWebnotes is the one used in Mantis manual as you noticed and we don't have any issues with it. So it is pretty stable. When I wrote the post above I was actually making a code re-write, so it was very active back then.
I am happy to provide some support for this project, but I would like to get a person or two to help with the continous improvement. I will probably advertise "Project Help Wanted".
Bottom line: it is not active, but I think it is not dead.