From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2005-10-24 01:37:20
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Greetings, RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. This is the final release prior to Nov 1 next week unless there is some show-stoppper. I need the following input: a) Are there any major issues with the jar or the distribution? In 2.0, there is a single release with source and binary and the build.xml for generating the minimal package runs out of the box as does compiling the sources. b) Did you find the distribution easier to use for setting up a web application? c) As a developer, did you appreciate that you can run "ant test" and immediately prove WM against the suite of included tests (setprops test is failing but will be fixed this week ... the directive is working great as far as I can tell in a separate test). Do you appreciate how the readme.html in the root directory navigates the many resources in the distribution? d) It is really desireable to have someone write up a press release. Marc has been really good about this in the past. I will look up my contact at JavaWorld. Lastly, even though WM is not in the Top 10, do not dismiss WM for heavy-duty production jobs. It is rock-solid as a result of a dedictated and lengthy development process. Kindest, -- Lane Sharman Providing Private and SPAM-Free Email http://www.opendoors.com 858-755-2868 |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2005-10-24 16:27:54
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On Monday 24 October 2005 02:38, Lane Sharman wrote: > Greetings, > > RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. Brilliant, well done. Did you know that webmacro was on the Maven ibiblio repository? It only has a few of the previous versions: http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/webmacro/ I mentioned Maven a while ago but no one responded, I am a fan and would like WM 2.0 to be distributed to the ibiblio site. I suspect the procedure is to ask on the maven dev list, which I could do if all agree. cheers Tim -- Registered linux user #21337, http://counter.li.org. |
From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2005-10-25 05:11:21
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Hi Tim, thanks. i think the distro makes a lot more sense. please go full-steam ahead with the maven geeks. Lane Tim Pizey wrote: >On Monday 24 October 2005 02:38, Lane Sharman wrote: > > >>Greetings, >> >>RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. >> >> > >Brilliant, well done. > >Did you know that webmacro was on the Maven ibiblio repository? >It only has a few of the previous versions: >http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/webmacro/ > >I mentioned Maven a while ago but no one responded, I am a fan and >would like WM 2.0 to be distributed to the ibiblio site. >I suspect the procedure is to ask on the maven dev list, which I could do if >all agree. > >cheers >Tim > > > > -- Lane Sharman Providing Private and SPAM-Free Email http://www.opendoors.com 858-755-2868 |
From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2005-10-24 20:12:01
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Lane Sharman wrote: > Greetings, > > RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. This is the final release prior to Nov 1 next > week unless there is some show-stoppper. I need the following input: > Lane, I really appreciate you doing all this. Great job. I will try to download it at work this week. My next client project begins in December and should provide a new simple platform for using Spring, WM and Groovy altogether. The idea is to use Groovy for the backend controller code, and WM for views. Therefore no more rebuilding of java code / stopping tomcat etc. > d) It is really desireable to have someone write up a press release. > Marc has been really good about this in the past. I will look up my > contact at JavaWorld. > > Lastly, even though WM is not in the Top 10, do not dismiss WM for > heavy-duty production jobs. It is rock-solid as a result of a > dedictated and lengthy development process. Indeed, WM is providing huge prototyping and implementation benefits over JSP at my current client, not to mention performance... and this is all just using the "work in progress" JSP taglib I have that embeds WM inside JSP pages. (Why embed in JSP... ugh don't ask :( ) Cheers |
From: Eric B. R. <eb...@tc...> - 2005-10-24 21:37:55
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On Oct 24, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Marc Palmer wrote: > Lane, I really appreciate you doing all this. Great job. I will try > to download it at work this week. My next client project begins in > December and should provide a new simple platform for using Spring, > WM and Groovy altogether. The idea is to use Groovy for the backend > controller code, and WM for views. Therefore no more rebuilding of > java code / stopping tomcat etc. I'd like to hear more about your adventures with Groovy when you get to this point. We've looked at it a number of times here, and its uses are obvious, but just haven't taken the plunge. We do *a lot* of JavaScript stuff now, and working in another scripting language seems silly for us. eric |
From: Marcello H <mar...@gm...> - 2005-10-25 07:09:55
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Lane, I've just downloaded the latest version and I have to give you my complimen= ts. It's perfect to have an ant-build so there's a standard way. (Super!) The build just complained about some javadocs not being correct, so some tiny issues , which wouldn't brake a production status anyway. The Unit testing is an example on how things have to be done, to assure an always working environment. I have to say that my advice to a developer is always to have a Unit test, so you know it's the same application before you start programming with /on it. (Applause!) I found out that the while-directive isn't in the distribution, so perhaps = Mike (the author) has to bring this in? And have to write the unit test too :-) Some side-effects I've noticed: - Unclear which jar/jars are needed for the WMTemplateAntTask, so I've deleted this one for now. - I've noticed (with checkstyle) that there are some messages about var's that aren't used. About press: It's perhaps also good to have a kind of press release link to the Webmacro-site on the server side. And I would like to help with the press release, but since my English is not that good, I would suggest to have an (kind of translated) article into the Dutch Java Magazine. Top 10 comment: To have a program into a top 10, it must show it's easy to use (or to get started). Therefore the most open source projects have a 'petshop' example. So perhaps the proof is in the pudding? Anyway thanks for all the hard work! -Marcel Huijkman- > RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. This is the final release prior to Nov 1 next > week unless there is some show-stoppper. I need the following input: > > a) Are there any major issues with the jar or the distribution? In 2.0, > there is a single release with source and binary and the build.xml for > generating the minimal package runs out of the box as does compiling the > sources. > > b) Did you find the distribution easier to use for setting up a web > application? > > c) As a developer, did you appreciate that you can run "ant test" and > immediately prove WM against the suite of included tests (setprops test > is failing but will be fixed this week ... the directive is working > great as far as I can tell in a separate test). Do you appreciate how > the readme.html in the root directory navigates the many resources in > the distribution? > > d) It is really desireable to have someone write up a press release. > Marc has been really good about this in the past. I will look up my > contact at JavaWorld. > > Lastly, even though WM is not in the Top 10, do not dismiss WM for > heavy-duty production jobs. It is rock-solid as a result of a dedictated > and lengthy development process. > > Kindest, > > -- > Lane Sharman > Providing Private and SPAM-Free Email > http://www.opendoors.com > 858-755-2868 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-user mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-user > |
From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2005-10-27 14:41:49
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Marcello H wrote: >Lane, > >I've just downloaded the latest version and I have to give you my compliments. > > many thanks. much appreciated. >It's perfect to have an ant-build so there's a standard way. (Super!) >The build just complained about some javadocs not being correct, so >some tiny issues , which wouldn't brake a production status anyway. > > will try to fix before the final release. >The Unit testing is an example on how things have to be done, to assure >an always working environment. I have to say that my advice to a developer >is always to have a Unit test, so you know it's the same application before >you start programming with /on it. (Applause!) > >I found out that the while-directive isn't in the distribution, so perhaps Mike >(the author) has to bring this in? And have to write the unit test too :-) > > yes. he has to write a unit test. I think the #while directive, if it had a unit test, could go in as an experimental directive which is how we get new directives started. >Some side-effects I've noticed: >- Unclear which jar/jars are needed for the WMTemplateAntTask, so I've >deleted this one for now. >- I've noticed (with checkstyle) that there are some messages about >var's that aren't used. > > Yes. But what about their use during runtime, introspection? >About press: >It's perhaps also good to have a kind of press release link to the >Webmacro-site on the server side. And I would like to help with the >press release, but since my English is not that good, I would suggest >to have an (kind of translated) article into the Dutch Java Magazine. > > If you could do the dutch, I will fix up the english! >Top 10 comment: >To have a program into a top 10, it must show it's easy to use (or to >get started). Therefore the most open source projects have a 'petshop' >example. So perhaps the proof is in the pudding? > >Anyway thanks for all the hard work! > > my pleasure. -Lane >-Marcel Huijkman- > > > > >>RC2 of WM 2.0 is posted. This is the final release prior to Nov 1 next >>week unless there is some show-stoppper. I need the following input: >> >>a) Are there any major issues with the jar or the distribution? In 2.0, >>there is a single release with source and binary and the build.xml for >>generating the minimal package runs out of the box as does compiling the >>sources. >> >>b) Did you find the distribution easier to use for setting up a web >>application? >> >>c) As a developer, did you appreciate that you can run "ant test" and >>immediately prove WM against the suite of included tests (setprops test >>is failing but will be fixed this week ... the directive is working >>great as far as I can tell in a separate test). Do you appreciate how >>the readme.html in the root directory navigates the many resources in >>the distribution? >> >>d) It is really desireable to have someone write up a press release. >>Marc has been really good about this in the past. I will look up my >>contact at JavaWorld. >> >>Lastly, even though WM is not in the Top 10, do not dismiss WM for >>heavy-duty production jobs. It is rock-solid as a result of a dedictated >>and lengthy development process. >> >>Kindest, >> >>-- >>Lane Sharman >>Providing Private and SPAM-Free Email >>http://www.opendoors.com >>858-755-2868 >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. >>Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course >>Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 >>Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information >>_______________________________________________ >>Webmacro-user mailing list >>Web...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-user >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. >Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course >Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 >Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information >_______________________________________________ >Webmacro-user mailing list >Web...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-user > > > -- Lane Sharman Providing Private and SPAM-Free Email http://www.opendoors.com 858-755-2868 |
From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2005-10-28 19:09:13
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paul wrote: > Lane - I haven't had the time to say it but... you rock!!! thanks, paul. I am off to the desert to complete the release. laptop is loaded and ready to crank out the release. there should be no real surprises technically relative to rc other than some javadoc clean-up and some docs updates. keats: it looks like you checked in an update to the setprops directive. Many thanks. Mike Weerdenberg: The #WhileDirective is going into the release as an experimental directive. It can be pulled if there are a lot of developer/community objections. Until there is a unit test (see offline email), it will remain undocumented, experimental in the release. -Lane |