You can subscribe to this list here.
2002 |
Jan
|
Feb
|
Mar
|
Apr
|
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
|
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
(4) |
Nov
(28) |
Dec
(47) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2003 |
Jan
(103) |
Feb
(44) |
Mar
(65) |
Apr
(140) |
May
(72) |
Jun
(233) |
Jul
(466) |
Aug
(51) |
Sep
(2) |
Oct
(17) |
Nov
(1) |
Dec
(7) |
2004 |
Jan
(8) |
Feb
(5) |
Mar
(28) |
Apr
(9) |
May
(7) |
Jun
|
Jul
(7) |
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
(1) |
Nov
|
Dec
|
2005 |
Jan
(1) |
Feb
|
Mar
|
Apr
(3) |
May
(24) |
Jun
(7) |
Jul
(2) |
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
(4) |
Nov
(3) |
Dec
(12) |
2006 |
Jan
|
Feb
(3) |
Mar
(8) |
Apr
(59) |
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
|
Aug
(24) |
Sep
|
Oct
|
Nov
|
Dec
(3) |
2007 |
Jan
|
Feb
|
Mar
|
Apr
(8) |
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
(1) |
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
|
Nov
(7) |
Dec
(3) |
2008 |
Jan
|
Feb
(1) |
Mar
(16) |
Apr
(2) |
May
(2) |
Jun
|
Jul
(11) |
Aug
(3) |
Sep
(9) |
Oct
(9) |
Nov
(44) |
Dec
(34) |
2009 |
Jan
(12) |
Feb
(14) |
Mar
(11) |
Apr
(16) |
May
(41) |
Jun
(19) |
Jul
(33) |
Aug
(8) |
Sep
(3) |
Oct
|
Nov
|
Dec
(7) |
2010 |
Jan
(8) |
Feb
(50) |
Mar
(3) |
Apr
(2) |
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
|
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
|
Nov
|
Dec
|
2011 |
Jan
|
Feb
|
Mar
|
Apr
|
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
|
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
|
Nov
(16) |
Dec
|
2012 |
Jan
|
Feb
|
Mar
|
Apr
(3) |
May
|
Jun
|
Jul
|
Aug
|
Sep
|
Oct
|
Nov
|
Dec
|
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-19 02:09:55
|
Hi, The current semantics of class instantiation in the Setprops directive are a bit odd: If the property org.webmacro.AllowedPackages is null then any class may be instantiated. If it is not empty then it must contain the package of the class you are trying to instantiate. I think that this is a bug. The test TestSetpropsDirective was failing when run through Maven but passing in Eclipse. I have set the Maven tests to fork pertest and all tests pass. However this was a bad smell, so I have fished around and made the test so that they no longer interfere with each other. (Well they are in an order so that they don't) So the current failing test illustrates that we have no restrictions on what classes are instantiated using the setprops directive. I think the desired behavior is for a default set of packages to be allowed (java.util, java.lang, org.webmacro.util) and for these also to be implied packages, ie you can refer to them without a full classname: just using HashMap or Exception If you alter the configuation then you must explicitly specify all packages, including the default. This can be used to disallow even the default packages. If you try to instantiate any other classes that will be disallowed. Does this make sense? Tim PS can't get ant to work on teh build machine (debian etch with ant-optional installed) but all works at home -- We are in dialogue. |
From: Eric B. R. <eb...@tc...> - 2010-02-18 16:39:56
|
On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Alex Fiennes wrote: > Are there any components in your "hacked-up" version that might be useful outside your company and would making them more widely available be of interest to you? Looks like our only change from WM CVS (as of a few years ago) is a new method in FastWriter.java and ByteBufferOutputStream.java: FastWriter: public void resetTo(int size) { _bstream.resetTo(size); } BBOS: public void resetTo(int pos) { if (pos >= _buf.length) throw new IllegalArgumentException(pos + ">=" + _buf.length); _pos = pos; } Combined with FastWriter.size(), it lets you do a mark/restore on the FastWriter. We found this useful to "rollback" partial writes to the stream in the event of an Exception. > Guy has tracked down the appropriate place in sourceforge so this isn't necessary. Great. Maybe one of you guys can become the mailing list admin and I can stop receiving all the bounce and moderator notifications. :) eric |
From: Alex F. <al...@fi...> - 2010-02-18 11:59:40
|
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Eric B. Ridge <eb...@tc...> wrote: > Hi! I'm an email address from the past. > Greetings. I personally stopped using WebMacro back in '07 when I quit my day job to > open a bar/poolroom. I sold it back in November, and now I'm back with my > previous employer. > I know the feeling wrt computers. Fortunately I manage to balance my programming with about 2 or 3 months a year doing live sound for concerts so I hope that this should provide a nice sustainable balance... > We still use WebMacro, but not like we used to. We're rewriting our > webapp's UI with GWT, so there's (basically) no HTML at all. > > We're now only using WM for our custom source-code generation tool. We > have zero intentions of moving beyond whatever hacked-up version we're using > in-house. > Are there any components in your "hacked-up" version that might be useful outside your company and would making them more widely available be of interest to you? > I'm still subscribed to this list, but don't monitor it because it's full > of spam. I just happen to notice a few names I recognized. > > > Finally, is there an easy way to find out how many people are subscribed > to the various lists? Are the other sourceforge admins subscribed? Do we > have the login to the mailman interface to find out? I'm not sure whether > I'm talking to 10, 100 or 1000 people... > > If I'm still a SF admin (drater), then I've got access to the mailing > lists. It'll take me awhile to try and remember the password I set, but > once I do, I'm happy to relinquish power to someone else more interested in > WM's future. > Guy has tracked down the appropriate place in sourceforge so this isn't necessary. Alex > > eric > |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-18 07:37:47
|
On 17 Feb 2010, at 18:16, Alex Fiennes wrote: > Finally, is there an easy way to find out how many people are subscribed to the various lists? Are the other sourceforge admins subscribed? Do we have the login to the mailman interface to find out? I'm not sure whether I'm talking to 10, 100 or 1000 people... You're talking to 22 on this list; as an admin, you have access to this information via sourceforge's Project Admin > Features > Mailing Lists management page. Cheers, Guy. |
From: Eric B. R. <eb...@tc...> - 2010-02-18 01:09:26
|
Hi! I'm an email address from the past. I personally stopped using WebMacro back in '07 when I quit my day job to open a bar/poolroom. I sold it back in November, and now I'm back with my previous employer. We still use WebMacro, but not like we used to. We're rewriting our webapp's UI with GWT, so there's (basically) no HTML at all. We're now only using WM for our custom source-code generation tool. We have zero intentions of moving beyond whatever hacked-up version we're using in-house. I'm still subscribed to this list, but don't monitor it because it's full of spam. I just happen to notice a few names I recognized. > Finally, is there an easy way to find out how many people are subscribed to the various lists? Are the other sourceforge admins subscribed? Do we have the login to the mailman interface to find out? I'm not sure whether I'm talking to 10, 100 or 1000 people... If I'm still a SF admin (drater), then I've got access to the mailing lists. It'll take me awhile to try and remember the password I set, but once I do, I'm happy to relinquish power to someone else more interested in WM's future. eric |
From: Alex F. <al...@fi...> - 2010-02-17 18:16:33
|
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Tim Pizey <ti...@pa...> wrote: > Hi, > > I have just added Guy Bolton King as an admin and bumped Alex Fiennes > up to Admin. > > splendid. Guy touched upon the possibility of adding code to webmacro earlier today. I would like to just ask briefly what the current status of webmacro is? I have been using it daily pretty much since its inception and I don't really have any intention of stopping using it in the near future. I know that Tim is using it. Is anyone else using it? If people are using it then are they generally using it on a "writing templates that get parsed by webmacro" level or are they writing extensions and plugins etc in java space? I'm primarily working out whether if we propose things that change the java API but keep the template evaluation consistent whether or not this will get peoples' backs up. Finally, is there an easy way to find out how many people are subscribed to the various lists? Are the other sourceforge admins subscribed? Do we have the login to the mailman interface to find out? I'm not sure whether I'm talking to 10, 100 or 1000 people... Alex > cheers > Tim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SOLARIS 10 is the OS for Data Centers - provides features such as DTrace, > Predictive Self Healing and Award Winning ZFS. Get Solaris 10 NOW > http://p.sf.net/sfu/solaris-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-devel mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 17:57:03
|
Hi, I have just added Guy Bolton King as an admin and bumped Alex Fiennes up to Admin. cheers Tim |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 16:53:10
|
Hi, I have put WebMacro under Continuous Integration at http://hudson.paneris.net/ If you have an open source project built with ant or maven which depends upon WebMacro (or indeed any other project...) that you would like under CI let me know, I am happy for that machine to do more work. cheers Tim |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-17 14:31:49
|
On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:19, Tim Pizey wrote: > Hi Guy, > > On 17 February 2010 14:04, Guy Bolton King wrote: >> >> On 17 Feb 2010, at 13:20, Tim Pizey wrote: >> >>> Hi Guy, >>> >>> I do not have any problem with moving it to git. >> >> That's great: before getting involved in any more technical conversation, however, I think it appropriate to say _why_ I suggested this. We've had a number of minor changes that we've wanted to make (most of which you've already mentioned, like removing the dependency on concurrent.jar), and if we make these changes, we'd like to put them under source control. Ideally, we also want to share these changes with the community: currently this means we do one of: >> >> * Submit patches to the mailing list and wait for them to appear in CVS >> * Ask to become committers and make our changes on a CVS branch >> >> So I suppose I should have asked if one of the above was a sensible way forward first. > > Alex is a committer, I can make you one, let me know your SF id. guyboltonking is my ID. If we have changes we want to commit, how do you currently manage this? Do you prefer to discuss changes prior to committing them, or are you happy with changes being made on a branch for merging to HEAD after discussion/approval? Do you have any branch naming standards? Sorry for the question bombardment. Cheers, Guy. |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 14:19:55
|
Hi Guy, On 17 February 2010 14:04, Guy Bolton King wrote: > > On 17 Feb 2010, at 13:20, Tim Pizey wrote: > >> Hi Guy, >> >> I do not have any problem with moving it to git. > > That's great: before getting involved in any more technical conversation, however, I think it appropriate to say _why_ I suggested this. We've had a number of minor changes that we've wanted to make (most of which you've already mentioned, like removing the dependency on concurrent.jar), and if we make these changes, we'd like to put them under source control. Ideally, we also want to share these changes with the community: currently this means we do one of: > > * Submit patches to the mailing list and wait for them to appear in CVS > * Ask to become committers and make our changes on a CVS branch > > So I suppose I should have asked if one of the above was a sensible way forward first. Alex is a committer, I can make you one, let me know your SF id. cheers Tim |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-17 14:04:36
|
On 17 Feb 2010, at 13:22, Tim Pizey wrote: > On 17 February 2010 12:13, Guy Bolton King wrote: >> >> On 17 Feb 2010, at 12:10, Guy Bolton King wrote: >> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> I work with Alex Fiennes, who as you may know is one of the committers to webmacro, and we use it in a large number of projects. If you are about to re-arrange the source repository, may I suggest that you move the whole thing to git? It would make it much easier for others to collaborate on the project. >> >> Oh, and if it's any help, I've already created a local git repository based on the current CVS tree. > > Does it help? It preserves the history. > What did this involve? $ git cvsimport -kk ...in my CVS working copy. > Do you know what the process for converting CVS to GIT on sourceforeg is? No, although I'd guess it would involve pushing the converted git repo to sourceforge. Regards, Guy. |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-17 14:04:34
|
On 17 Feb 2010, at 13:20, Tim Pizey wrote: > Hi Guy, > > I do not have any problem with moving it to git. That's great: before getting involved in any more technical conversation, however, I think it appropriate to say _why_ I suggested this. We've had a number of minor changes that we've wanted to make (most of which you've already mentioned, like removing the dependency on concurrent.jar), and if we make these changes, we'd like to put them under source control. Ideally, we also want to share these changes with the community: currently this means we do one of: * Submit patches to the mailing list and wait for them to appear in CVS * Ask to become committers and make our changes on a CVS branch So I suppose I should have asked if one of the above was a sensible way forward first. Changing source control system is something of a big ask, but if we could move to something that tracked directory changes, which (I believe) are the sort of changes you're proposing at the moment, we'd have better history tracking. Whether that thing is git/mercurial/bazaar is immaterial (although I prefer git for speed and github, which seems a pretty good way of collaborating on open source stuff). The impact of such a change depends on just how many people are actively pulling this project from CVS. I know we are, and I know Tim is, but who else is? I'm assuming if you're out there, you're on the devel list: would changing version control systems affect you? On to the technical issues: > The only problem, such as it is, is a loss of commit history, > but I do not feel that that is a show stopper. We wouldn't lose any commit history: as an example, I've pushed the repo to github (I can always remove it later if anyone objects). See http://github.com/guyboltonking/webmacro/commits/master. > I have not used git in anger. > Why git not mercurial? Personal preference, and I think git (for all its flaws) seems to be winning the decentralised version control popularity contest at the moment, which implies more tools and more hosting services. > Which project host? Stick with Sourceforge? > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/80xax/sourceforge_now_supports_git/ > I think that the project owes Sourceforge. No reason not to stick with Sourceforge. After all, you still need to host your issue tracker somewhere. Best regards, Guy. |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 13:22:37
|
On 17 February 2010 12:13, Guy Bolton King wrote: > > On 17 Feb 2010, at 12:10, Guy Bolton King wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> I work with Alex Fiennes, who as you may know is one of the committers to webmacro, and we use it in a large number of projects. If you are about to re-arrange the source repository, may I suggest that you move the whole thing to git? It would make it much easier for others to collaborate on the project. > > Oh, and if it's any help, I've already created a local git repository based on the current CVS tree. Does it help? What did this involve? Do you know what the process for converting CVS to GIT on sourceforeg is? cheers Tim |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 13:21:01
|
Hi Guy, I do not have any problem with moving it to git. The only problem, such as it is, is a loss of commit history, but I do not feel that that is a show stopper. I have not used git in anger. Why git not mercurial? Which project host? Stick with Sourceforge? http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/80xax/sourceforge_now_supports_git/ I think that the project owes Sourceforge. cheers Tim On 17 February 2010 12:10, Guy Bolton King wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I work with Alex Fiennes, who as you may know is one of the committers to webmacro, and we use it in a large number of projects. If you are about to re-arrange the source repository, may I suggest that you move the whole thing to git? It would make it much easier for others to collaborate on the project. > > Alternatively, would you and the other project maintainers object to a fork of the project being hosted on github? > > Best regards, > > Guy. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SOLARIS 10 is the OS for Data Centers - provides features such as DTrace, > Predictive Self Healing and Award Winning ZFS. Get Solaris 10 NOW > http://p.sf.net/sfu/solaris-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-devel mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-17 13:14:43
|
On 17 Feb 2010, at 12:10, Guy Bolton King wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I work with Alex Fiennes, who as you may know is one of the committers to webmacro, and we use it in a large number of projects. If you are about to re-arrange the source repository, may I suggest that you move the whole thing to git? It would make it much easier for others to collaborate on the project. Oh, and if it's any help, I've already created a local git repository based on the current CVS tree. > > Alternatively, would you and the other project maintainers object to a fork of the project being hosted on github? > > Best regards, > > Guy. |
From: Guy B. K. <gu...@wa...> - 2010-02-17 12:10:27
|
Hi Tim, I work with Alex Fiennes, who as you may know is one of the committers to webmacro, and we use it in a large number of projects. If you are about to re-arrange the source repository, may I suggest that you move the whole thing to git? It would make it much easier for others to collaborate on the project. Alternatively, would you and the other project maintainers object to a fork of the project being hosted on github? Best regards, Guy. |
From: Endre S. <Endre@Stolsvik.com> - 2010-02-17 10:12:00
|
Excellent! On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:50, Tim Pizey <ti...@pa...> wrote: > hi, > > Sourceforge have now added the ability to restructure a source repository. > My plan is to copy everything in the current source tree to a new top > level directory: original > (This maintains all history). > > Then to restructure the code base into a Maven style project, with > tools and adapter moved into contrib. > > I will also add a Maven plugin, the basis of which is in the Melati > tree, to convert WebMacro > templates to Velocity. > > Upgrade to java 1.6, including use of built in concurrency classes. > > Regenerate parser using latest javacc > > Whilst I don't think that this will get us back in the race it will at > least bring us uptodate. > > cheers > Tim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SOLARIS 10 is the OS for Data Centers - provides features such as DTrace, > Predictive Self Healing and Award Winning ZFS. Get Solaris 10 NOW > http://p.sf.net/sfu/solaris-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-devel mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-17 09:51:06
|
hi, Sourceforge have now added the ability to restructure a source repository. My plan is to copy everything in the current source tree to a new top level directory: original (This maintains all history). Then to restructure the code base into a Maven style project, with tools and adapter moved into contrib. I will also add a Maven plugin, the basis of which is in the Melati tree, to convert WebMacro templates to Velocity. Upgrade to java 1.6, including use of built in concurrency classes. Regenerate parser using latest javacc Whilst I don't think that this will get us back in the race it will at least bring us uptodate. cheers Tim |
From: Tim P. <ti...@pa...> - 2010-02-16 23:30:22
|
Hi, I have hooked WebMacro up to Melati in such a way that the Melati tests illustrate the amount of WebMacro used by Melati. http://melati.org/melati/cobertura/index.html The itch that I am aiming to scratch is that WebMacro forces a dependency upon Spring and Ant upon Melati. http://melati.org/melati/dependencies.html Similarly I have removed my dependency upon concurrent.jar, but WebMacro drags it in. So my plan is to remove (or move to a sub-project) org.webmacro.adapter.* and org.webmacro.tools Is anyone currently using these? I hope to find the time to remove the dependency upon concurrent.jar. This would leave us solely dependent upon commons-logging and servlet-api. Don't hold your breath. cheers Tim -- We are in dialogue. |
From: Buy V. P. on www.ra97.c. <ket...@qv...> - 2010-01-29 07:08:51
|
weigh bridg es idoli zer harsl et inter tidal ly walli es basem an bloss omy unexp ended unibu ss seash ore stran gling s round deran ging peren nate seash ore pneum onia subur baniz e promp ting decip hers reoxi dize jangl es ferme ntati on overr ipe payed boole an |
From: Brooms M. <ytt...@ce...> - 2009-12-06 23:58:06
|
K forth. He saw that their plain purpose had been to insult him. He ascended to the flat roof, hoping to be able to cool down his spirit there and get back his tranquility. He found the young tinner up there, alone and brooding, and entered into conversation with him. They were pretty fairly matched, now, in unpopularity and general ill-luck and misery, and they had no trouble in meeting upon this common ground with advantage and something of comfort to both. But Tracy's movements had been watched, and in a few minutes the tormentors came straggling one after another to the roof, where they began to stroll up and down in an apparently purposeless way. But prese |
From: Kandi <bi...@al...> - 2009-12-05 20:33:27
|
E from any taint of personal triumph.... It is no pleasure to me to triumph over anyone, but I give thanks to the Almighty for this evidence of the people's resolution to stand by free government and the rights of humanity." Mr. Lincoln's inauguration for his second term as President took place at the time appointed, on March 4, 1865. There is little variation in the simple but impressive pageantry with which the ceremony is celebrated. The principal novelty commented on by the newspapers was the share which the people who had up to that time been slaves, had for the first time in this public and political drama. Associations of negro citizens joined in the procession, and a battalion of negro soldiers formed part of the military escort. The central act of the occasion was President Lincoln's second inaugural address, which enriched the political literature of the nation with another masterpiece. He said: "Fellow-countrymen: At this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office, there is less oc |
From: McWilson B. <ch...@be...> - 2009-08-29 09:55:52
|
P over them at the thought of what they might discover the next minute. Francois had shot low, and only meant to wound, but then his bullet might have glanced upward, and inflicted a fatal injury. A dozen and more paces they went. Everyone was excited, and looking this way and that, for who could say what th |
From: Jeffery B. <sk...@li...> - 2009-08-25 18:01:32
|
Had to leap back again, for the enemy thrust at them. Nick struck in turn, though, and a yell of pain told that it was not without effect. "Keep back," cried Sir Edward, as his men advanced recklessly, and when the wounded man had been drawn away and carried out, after a rough bandage had been applied to his wound, Sir Edward turned to his son. "You must be hurt, my boy," he whispered. "I was, father, horribly." "But I mean wounded." "Only my doublet," said the lad merrily. "What are we to do now?" After a few moments' thought, as Nick Garth had been so able, Sir Edward decided to let him try again, which he eagerly did, feigning so as to draw a thrust from the enemy, and darting aside and close up to the wall. Then, as the man withdrew his pike, Nick, holding his own short, thrust it through after it, and again there was a yell of pain, but almost at the same moment Ram Jennings was just reached by a thrust through another hole, and sprang back, roaring like a wild beast. "Yah! don't howl like that," cried Nick angrily; "do as I do." But poor Ram Jennings preferred to stand nursing his injured arm, and watching his fellow ramming away with his pike, as if loading a gun, till suddenly it was jerked out of his hand, and drawn through the wall. "Look at that," he growled. "Here, give's hold of another." But Sir Edward ordered him back. "It's of no use, my lad," he cried; "come |
From: Willrett <em...@ba...> - 2009-08-21 15:00:22
|
journey, and tell your master that if he dares to lift his standards against my walls my fedais shall speak with him. By day and by night, not for one moment shall he be safe. Poison shall lurk in his cup and a dagger in his bed. Let him kill a hundred of them, and another hundred shall appear. His most trusted guards shall be his executioners. The women in his harem shall bring him to his doom--ay, death shall be in the very air he breathes. If he would escape it, therefore, let him hide himself within the walls of his city of Damascus, or amuse himself with wars against the mad Cross-worshippers, and leave me to live in peace with this lady whom I have chosen." "Great words, worthy of the Great Assassin," said the ambassador. "Great words in truth, which shall be followed by great deeds. What chance has this lord of yours against a nation sworn to obey to the death? You smile? Then come hither you--and you." And he summoned two of his dais by name. They rose and bowed before him. "Now, my worthy servants," he said, "show these heretic dogs how you obey, that their master may learn the power of your master. You are old and weary of life. Begone, and await me in Paradise." The old men bowed again, trembling a little. Then, straightening themselves, without a word they ran side by side and leapt into the abyss. "Has Salah-ed-din servants such as these?" asked Sinan in the silence that followed. "Well, what they have done, all would do, if I bid them slay him. Back, now; and, if you will, take these Franks with you, who are my guests, that they may bear witness of what you have seen, and of the state in which you left their sister. Translate to the knights, woman." So Masouda translated. Then Godwin answered through her. "We understand little of this matter, who are ignorant of your tongue, but, O Al-je-bal, ere we leave your shelteri |