Re: [Webmacro-devel] New features for 2.0?

[Lane S. <la...@op...>]

Eric Ridge wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2004, at 5:47 PM, Keats wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> 2) FormTool
>>
>> Added the ability to set default values for all form elements and/or for
>> each form element, eg,
>>
>>    $Form.DefaultValue = null
>>    $Form.Name.Default = "Guest"
>>
>> (The default DefaultValue is now the empty string.)
>
>
> I really don't like the default value being the empty string.  Means 
> one can no longer do this:
>     #if($Form.SOME_PARAMETER) {
>                   You sent me SOME_PARAMETER=$Form.SOME_PARAMETER
>          } 

good point, ebr!

>
>
>> I deprecated "getPossibleForm" and added a new version called
>> "getIgnoreCase", so:
>>
>>    $Form.IgnoreCase.NAME, will retrieve an element called "name", 
>> "Name",
>> "NAME" etc. (The first one it finds.)
>
>
> I don't like this either.  :)  It goes against every web/cgi 
> "framework" I've ever used... HTTP parameters are case sensitive.  I 
> don't want to see WM promote non-standard usages for something so basic. 

Again, this is for really lazy programmers and should probably not be in 
WM because of the unintended consequences.

>
>
>
>> I also added isExists(), so the following works regardless of the 
>> default
>> values:
>>
>>   #if ($Form.Exists.Name){ ...
>
>
> You need this only because the default value changed.  :(
>
> When I upgrade our product to WM 2.0, this change alone is going to 
> make me about as upset as Tim is with Melati.  I can deal with all the 
> FastWriter/api changes, but this one really bugs me.  :)  It means 
> re-training my designers on something they've used for about 4 years now. 

I second this reasoning.

>
>
>> 3) #try directive
>
>
> <snip>
>
>> I remember Eric saying he did this a while ago, but then Brian talked 
>> him
>> out of it.  I'd like to hear the reasoning.  I find it quite useful for
>> validation and debugging.
>
>
> Reason being that nothing you do in a template should actually throw 
> an exception.  And if it does, you want it reported.  I see this as 
> very similar to the "On Error Resume Next" construct of VisualBasic... 
> very very bad. 

good calls, ebr.

-Lane

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> eric
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