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Nat Brazil - 2005-12-31

Hi
I love Webmin, bought the book :)

Running Linux servers with SCSI drives. Does the SMART module 'really' work only for IDE? not SCSI?

If so are there any such modules for SCSI that anyone has seen?

Thanks!
natbrazil@weblabs.com

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- Michael Mansour - 2005-12-31
  
  Your question doesn't really related to Webmin, as Webmin doesn't control SMART, it just reads it.
  
  SMART status of a hard drive is available for both IDE and SCSI disks, it just depends on the manufacturer of the disk as to how many facilities they give you in SMART that you can read with tools like the SMART Webmin module and smartmontools.
  
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  - Nat Brazil - 2006-01-01
    
    It does though
    First I'm asking if the Webmin description is simply in error when it only says IDE
    
    Second, I'm asking if there are any Webmin modules that montitor SCSI if indeed this one does not.
    
    Thanks
    
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    - Nat Brazil - 2006-01-01
      
      To be more precise I have seagate scsi drives that are SMART capable and I can enable them and see SMART working via direct commands but the Webmin module doesn't seem to work and it's description says the webmin module works for IDE drives.
      
      I realize Wembin modules aren't programs, just 'interfaces' of programs.
      
      Thanks
      
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      - Michael Mansour - 2006-01-01
        
        Ok, I have two (quite old) servers running SCSI disks. On one of them I get into Webmin's SMART Status module, I get them listed asking me to select which one to "show" (there's a show button), and when I click that on one of the drives I see:
        
        Status of drive /dev/sda
        Location     SCSI device A
        Drive size     8637 MB
        Make and model     FUJITSU MAG3091L SUN9.0G
        Supports SMART?     No
        SMART enabled?     No
        
        The header of the page shows:
        
        SMARTsuite version 5.33
        
        which is smartmontools.
        
        This means that Webmin in fact uses smartmontools to query the SMART controller, and it does in fact support anything smartmontools supports (including SCSI drives).
        
        Michael.
        
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        Nat Brazil - 2006-01-01
        
        OK Michael,
        Now it gets interesting
        Yours shows No and No to Supports & Enabled, mine does too (I have same 5.33 too) but my drives are Smart supported and enabled, SEAGATE SX336704LC, and I can issue SMART commands directly as root and they work, but not in this WebMin module and I'm wondering why...
        
        I thought maybe it was giving 'no' because it was scsi and the description says ide
        
        Thanks!
        
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        Michael Mansour - 2006-01-02
        
        I think that's a bug with the Webmin module. Because when I issue the following command from shell:
        
        ******
        # smartctl -a /dev/sda
        smartctl version 5.33 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
        Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
        
        Device: FUJITSU MAG3091L SUN9.0G Version: 1111
        Serial number: 01495467
        Device type: disk
        Local Time is: Mon Jan 2 11:23:43 2006 EST
        Device supports SMART and is Enabled
        Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
        SMART Health Status: OK
        
        Current Drive Temperature:     41 C
        Drive Trip Temperature:        80 C
        Manufactured in week 03 of year 2000
        Current start stop count:      117 times
        Recommended maximum start stop count: 10000 times
        
        Error Counter logging not supported
        
        Error Events logging not supported
        Device does not support Self Test logging
        *****
        
        It clearly says the device supports SMART and is enabled.
        
        I'll raise this one with Jamie (Webmin) to see if it can be fixed.
        
        Michael.
        
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        Nat Brazil - 2006-01-02
        
        ah that is exactly the problem and why I posted, thx very much for your patience and help.
        
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        Michael Mansour - 2006-01-02
        
        No problems. Although I don't specifically use that module for anything, I do reference it in the "System and Status" module which emails me when the SMART status fails on any of my drives.
        
        I also have smartmontools configured to run short tests nightly, and long tests weekly, which will email me of problems when they occur also.
        
        I've emailed Jamie and provided him with this thread link so he's aware of it all. He may be emailing you (or me) if he has queries on our SCSI setups :)
        
        Cheers.
        
        Michael.
        
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        Jamie Cameron - 2006-01-02
        
        Could any of you who have SCSI drives that support SMART run the command smartctl -i /dev/sda as root at the shell prompt, and post the output? My guess is that Webmin is parsing it incorrectly..
        
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        Nat Brazil - 2006-01-02
        
        > smartctl -i /dev/sda
        smartctl version 5.33 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
        Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
        
        Device: SEAGATE SX336704LC       Version: BC13
        Serial number: 3CD14CTA    2122CPRW
        Device type: disk
        Local Time is: Mon Jan 2 10:10:18 2006 EST
        Device supports SMART and is Enabled
        Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
        
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- Bill Pye - 2006-02-17
  
  Hi
  
  I'm also having this problem of no data returned for a SCSI HD from the SMART module. Here's the info from my system:
  
  smartctl -i /dev/sda
  smartctl version 5.33 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
  Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
  
  Device: FUJITSU MAT3073NP Version: 0108
  Serial number: AAS0P5601DM5
  Device type: disk
  Transport protocol: Parallel SCSI (SPI-4)
  Local Time is: Fri Feb 17 18:30:02 2006 GMT
  Device supports SMART and is Enabled
  Temperature Warning Enabled
  
  Regards
  
  Bill
  
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- luckyme2 - 2006-03-05
  
  Boy, I'm glad I ran across this thread. I noticed that the webmin SMART module doesn't work with SATA drives even with kernel 2.6.15 (with libata pass-through) because it doesn't pass the "-d ata" parameter. For example:
  
  # smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda
  
  I think the module should at the very least have an option in it's config for SATA drives that will give it the "-d ata" parameter so it will work.
  
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- Nat Brazil - 2006-04-10
  
  friendly bump...
  
  wasn't jamie going to fix this? :) thx!
  
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