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McFirson
2014-07-17
2014-07-25
  • McFirson

    McFirson - 2014-07-17

    Hello,

    I have been using Waveshop for quite a while, and I am really satisfied as I am not looking for a professional audio editor, who are often really complex to use.

    I noticed a minor "bug" or maybe it is some bad adjustment on my part. When I edit, for example, a recorded audio file using Windows Sound Recorder (.wma, about 17 seconds long), and save it as mp3 format after editing (to 00:11), I get a file that`s:

    1. in Windows Media Player - 00:15 (while playing it like 00:11 file, just jumps to 00:15 point then finishes)
    2. in file`s properties, under Details - 00:16
    3. in PowerPoint, for which I need this file - 00:17, after 00:11 it`s just silence

    For me, it looks like that data about previous length of the audio isn`t properly saved or something.

    I think that this is not the case with all the edited files.
    Sometimes, this "bug" is a result of cutting a bigger file (.mp3, not recorded) to lots of smaller ones, but there`s no rule there.

    I know that Waveshop has internal sound recorder and I just might start using that instead of Windows Sound Recorder (as it is saves only in .wma format, not supported in Waveshop, so there is converting process as well), but for now I would like to see if there`s a solution to... this.

    Information about my system - Laptop:
    Windows 7 32 bit (is this ok for editing audio? As I know that 64bit version is recommended, I am not using Waveshop for BIG files, files I`m editing are at most 100 MB.)
    2 GB RAM
    (if more information is needed, just say)

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Last edit: McFirson 2014-07-17
  • Chris Korda

    Chris Korda - 2014-07-17

    I suggest using WaveShop to record the audio. MP3 sounds awful and is no longer necessary, because computers are plenty fast enough to record uncompressed audio, and disk space is cheap. You should be using FLAC instead of MP3. If you post one of the problematic MP3 files somewhere I can take a look at it, but I doubt that this is a WaveShop bug. It could possibly be a bug in the library WaveShop uses for reading MP3 files (libmad). More likely it's just that Windows Sound Recorder is creating bogus MP3 files.

     

    Last edit: Chris Korda 2014-07-17
  • McFirson

    McFirson - 2014-07-24

    Hi again,

    I was a bit busy, sorry for not responding.

    You were correct, I have tried this:

    1. Converted original .wma file to .wav (just anything other than MP3), and then editing it in WaveShop. There were no anomalies this time.

    2. I saved an edited (problematic) MP3 as a .wav with WaveShop(again, just to see if anything changes) and - miracle - no anomalies.

    What file format do you suggest that has a reasonable quality and size? I have loads of MP3s (voice recordings) that need to be put in a different format (yes, those pesky MP3s, but there is a little chance that I will do voice recording again).

    Furthermore, I need them for PowerPoint presentation.

    To answer the possible question - why I did not use integrated PowerPoint recorder, the answer is that there was just too much noise in a recording for some reason, which is why I had to use Windows Sound Recorder, where that particular noise wasn`t present, even on high volume.

    There is some noise, as I do not have a recording setup with noise reduction, but in PowerPoint the noise is amplified to very high levels.

    And is it me, or Sound Recorder was kinda... "destroyed" in Windows 7? In XP it is very easy to use, with actual possibility to choose file format.

     
  • Chris Korda

    Chris Korda - 2014-07-24

    You didn't explain how you converted the WMA file to MP3. Obviously you didn't use WaveShop for that, because it doesn't read WMA. I submit that your problem is either caused by Windows Sound Recorder, or whatever program you're using to convert from WMA. Since your problem goes away when you convert the WMA to WAV instead, I suggest you continue doing that. Re what file format you should use, I previously recommended FLAC.

     
  • McFirson

    McFirson - 2014-07-25

    EDIT: So far, one thing stands as a possible solution (possible facepalm up ahead):

    1. Convert WMA to WAV
    2. Edit WAV
    3. Convert WAV to WMA again.
    4. Joy, oh joy with low size and ok quality and no anomalies.

    /EDIT

    Original text follows.

    Yes, I am using converting software - Format Factory. I am generally satisfied with it, it is equipped well enough for me when I need to convert video files for phones etc.

    It is the same program which I used to convert WMA to MP3 and WAV.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FormatFactory

    As to what file format I should use, PowerPoint primarily suggests WAV file, but that is what is concerning me - size of the file.

    Original WMA file - 162 KB
    Converted to MP3 - 196 KB
    Edited MP3, saved with anomalies - 269 KB

    I did some more converting:
    Converted WMA to WAV (with FormatFactory) - 2,152 KB (2,1 MB)
    Converted edited MP3 to WAV (with WaveShop, just as a test) - 2,061 KB

    PowerPoint supports following sound files > AIFF, AU, MP3, WAV, WMA.

    Flac is not supported unfortunately, which would be best solution in this case, primarily because of size.

    I saved WAV file through WaveShop in all of the formats mentioned above, and all of them average at 2 MB (except MP3 and WMA).
    Then I saved an MP3 file in the same fashion - same result.

     

    Last edit: McFirson 2014-07-25

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