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From: Wouter W. <wo...@xs...> - 2007-02-13 16:36:57
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Hi, I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our virtual = reality CAVE. I came across the following line in the juggler docs: The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work correctly. = The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to access the Flock of = Birds=AE tracking system. So is this still valid for version 2.0.2?=20 The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether there is = any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler driver or not. Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :) Thank you, Wouter |
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From: Daniel E. S. <dan...@gm...> - 2007-02-13 16:46:03
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On 2/13/07, Wouter Wognum <wo...@xs...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our virtual reality > CAVE. > I came across the following line in the juggler docs: > > The Flock of Birds(r) driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work correctly. The > VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to access the Flock of Birds(r) > tracking system. > > So is this still valid for version 2.0.2? > The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether there is > any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler driver or not. > Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :) > The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has some hardcoded limitations but it will work. -Dan |
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From: Wouter W. <wo...@xs...> - 2007-02-13 17:29:56
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Sorry for the previous e-mail; pressed the wrong key :)
@Dan
What kind of limitations does the VRPN driver have?
@Patrick
We use both windows and linux with 2.6 kernel.
But it's no problem to switch to 2.4 if that will work.
So are you saying the current vrjuggler fob driver probably DOES work in =
windows?
If so, I'll test it tomorrow and let you know :)
@Dan again
When you say the driver doesn't work. Do you mean under windows, linux =
or in general?
- Wouter
From: Daniel E. Shipton=20
To: VR Juggler development discussion list=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [vrjuggler-devel] Flock of birds support
On 2/13/07, Wouter Wognum <wo...@xs...> wrote:
Hi,
I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our virtual =
reality CAVE.
I came across the following line in the juggler docs:
The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work =
correctly. The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to access the =
Flock of Birds=AE tracking system.
So is this still valid for version 2.0.2?=20
The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether =
there is any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler driver or =
not.
Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :)
The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has some =
hardcoded limitations but it will work.
-Dan
What operating system are you using? The only OS that I know of where =
the
Flock driver definitely doesn't work is Linux with a 2.6 kernel. It =
probably
works on Windows, and I know that it worked with a Linux 2.4 kernel.
Whatever the problem is in the driver that prevents it from with with =
a
Linux 2.6 kernel could probably be fixed given access to the hardware =
and
sufficient time.
-Patrick |
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From: Patrick H. <pa...@in...> - 2007-02-13 17:41:44
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Wouter Wognum wrote: > Sorry for the previous e-mail; pressed the wrong key :) > =20 > @Dan > What kind of limitations does the VRPN driver have? I believe that it hard codes the transmitter hemisphere setting. > @Patrick > We use both windows and linux with 2.6 kernel. > But it's no problem to switch to 2.4 if that will work. > So are you saying the current vrjuggler fob driver probably DOES work i= n > windows? > If so, I'll test it tomorrow and let you know :) The last I knew, the driver worked on Windows. However, that is second-ha= nd information since I did not see it working myself. Beyond that, I haven't= used a Flock of Birds since Dan and I worked out kinks in the current dri= ver back in November 2004. That was using IRIX 6.5 and a Linux 2.4 kernel for= testing. Getting an update on the usability on Windows would be good. If = it works on Windows, then I will update the VR Juggler /Configuration Guide/= to reflect that. > @Dan again > When you say the driver doesn't work. Do you mean under windows, linux > or in general? Dan basically meant the same thing that I said. :) -Patrick > - Wouter > =20 >=20 > *From:* Daniel E. Shipton <mailto:dan...@gm...> > *To:* VR Juggler development discussion list > <mailto:vrj...@li...> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: [vrjuggler-devel] Flock of birds support >=20 > On 2/13/07, *Wouter Wognum* <wo...@xs... > <mailto:wo...@xs...>> wrote: >=20 > Hi, > =20 > I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our > virtual reality CAVE. > I came across the following line in the juggler docs: > =20 > The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work > correctly. The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to > access the Flock of Birds=AE tracking system. > =20 > So is this still valid for version 2.0.2? > The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether= > there is any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler > driver or not. > Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :) >=20 >=20 > The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has some= > hardcoded limitations but it will work. >=20 > -Dan > =20 >=20 > What operating system are you using? The only OS that I know of > where the > Flock driver definitely doesn't work is Linux with a 2.6 kernel. It= > probably > works on Windows, and I know that it worked with a Linux 2.4 kernel= =2E > Whatever the problem is in the driver that prevents it from with wi= th a > Linux 2.6 kernel could probably be fixed given access to the > hardware and > sufficient time. > =20 > -Patrick --=20 Patrick L. Hartling | VP Engineering, Infiscape Corp. PGP: http://tinyurl.com/2msw3 | http://www.infiscape.com/ |
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From: Wouter W. <wo...@xs...> - 2007-02-14 13:38:36
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Hi again,
I'm currently trying to get the FOB to work with vrjuggler on windows XP.
I've included the config file I'm using.
Comport and baudrate settings are correct. The fob does work with the
winbird test-application provided by ascension-tech.
I've added an inputmanager to the configuration, which loads the
flock_drv. I also added a driver scan path to the inputmanager, which I
set to the path with the Bird.dll win32 driver from ascension-tech.
As a result, the driver does try to initialize the FOB, but somehow fails
in doing so. This is the output from juggler:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
D:\simpleApp.exe "d:\config files\fobtest.jconf"
VPR_DEBUG_NFY_LEVEL: Not found.
VPR_DEBUG_NFY_LEVEL: Defaults to 2
--------------------------------------------------------
For more or less debug output change VPR_DEBUG_NFY_LEVEL
--------------------------------------------------------
VPR_DEBUG_ENABLE: Not found.
VPR_DEBUG_ENABLE: Defaults to 1
[ TID: N/A ]
DBG:==============================================================
=================
[ TID: N/A ] DBG:VR Juggler: v2.0.1-0 'Kenji' (NSPR)
VRJ_RELENG_2_0_BRANCH Aug
29, 2005 13:32:13
[ TID: N/A ] DBG:VPR: v1.0.1-0 'Alpine Powder' (NSPR)
VRJ_RELENG_2_0_BRANCH Aug
29, 2005 13:32:10
[ TID: N/A ] DBG:JCCL: v1.0.1-0 'Crazed Kitty' (NSPR)
VRJ_RELENG_2_0_BRANCH Aug
29, 2005 13:32:11
[ TID: N/A ] DBG:Gadgeteer: v1.0.1-0 'Dr Claw' (NSPR)
VRJ_RELENG_2_0_BRANCH Aug
29, 2005 13:32:12
[ TID: N/A ]
DBG:==============================================================
=================
[ TID: N/A ] DBG:Neither JCCL_CFG_PATH nor VJ_CFG_PATH is set.
Defaulting to
${VJ_BASE_DIR}/share\vrjuggler/data/configFiles
simpleApp.exe[ TID: N/A ] JCCL-RCFG:JCCL_BASE_DIR environment variable
not set.
Using VJ_BASE_DIR instead.[ TID: N/A ] DBG:Loading library:
D:\vrirrlicht\src\vrjuggler-2.0.1-win32-vc71\lib\jccl\plugins\corba_rtrc.dll
[ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Loading library:
D:\vrirrlicht\src\vrjuggler-2.0.1-win32-vc71\lib\vrjuggler\plugins\corba_perf_mon.dll
[ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: display_system
DisplaySystem0 [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: keyboard_mouse_proxy
Keyboard/MouseProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: keyboard_mouse_device
Keyboard/MouseInputHandler [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy:
Keyboard/MouseProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: simulated_positional_device
SimHeadPos [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: position_proxy
SimHeadProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy:
Keyboard/MouseProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: simulated_positional_device
SimCamPos [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy:
Keyboard/MouseProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: simulated_positional_device
SimWandPos [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: position_proxy
SimCamProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: position_proxy
SimWandProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy:
Keyboard/MouseProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: simulated_digital_device
SimWandButtons [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: digital_proxy
SimWandLeftButtonProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: digital_proxy
SimWandCenterButtonProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: digital_proxy
SimWandRightButtonProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: alias
VJButton0 [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: alias
VJWand [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: alias
VJButton1 [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: alias
VJHead [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Loading library:
D:\vrirrlicht\src\vrjuggler-2.0.1-win32-vc71\lib\gadgeteer\drivers\Flock_drv.dll
[ OK ]
[0004068/000] gadgetINP:[gadget::InputManager::configureInputManager()]
Searching for driver DSOs in 'D:\fobdriver'
[0004068/000] DBG:Loading library:
D:\fobdriver\Bird.dll [ FAILED lookup ]
[0004068/000] DBG:WARNING: Failed to look up entry point function
'initDevice' in DSO 'D:\fobdriver\Bird.dll'
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: input_manager
InputManager0 [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy:
SimHeadProxy [ OK ]
[0004068/000] DBG:Type: user
Gebruiker [ OK ]
Update action always NOW in Win32
Canoncial State not yet implemented, EOF is enabled.
[0004068/000] DBG:Flock error: Incomplete command response
Flock Status:
status:Open
mode:Unknown mode
addr mode:Normal Addressing
mstr addr:1
output fmt:PositionQuaternion
report rate:MaxRate
hemi:Lower
filter:AC Narrow
sync:1
model:
sw ver:0
port:COM1
baud:115200
Transmitters at indices:
--- Bird Internal ---:
mActiveUnitEndIndex:1920360295
mNumSensors:0
Addr to sensor map:
[0004068/000] DBG: [FlockStandalone] Configuring the flock.
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual
way. Please contact the application's support team for more information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
And as you can see, it crashes.
It also is unable to load the Bird.dll driver. But I don't know whether it
is necessary to use this driver.
So am I doing something wrong here (which I hope) or is the driver just
not compatible with windows?
Thank you,
Wouter Wognum
> Wouter Wognum wrote:
>> Sorry for the previous e-mail; pressed the wrong key :)
>>
>> @Dan
>> What kind of limitations does the VRPN driver have?
>
> I believe that it hard codes the transmitter hemisphere setting.
>
>> @Patrick
>> We use both windows and linux with 2.6 kernel.
>> But it's no problem to switch to 2.4 if that will work.
>> So are you saying the current vrjuggler fob driver probably DOES work in
>> windows?
>> If so, I'll test it tomorrow and let you know :)
>
> The last I knew, the driver worked on Windows. However, that is
> second-hand
> information since I did not see it working myself. Beyond that, I haven't
> used a Flock of Birds since Dan and I worked out kinks in the current
> driver
> back in November 2004. That was using IRIX 6.5 and a Linux 2.4 kernel for
> testing. Getting an update on the usability on Windows would be good. If
> it
> works on Windows, then I will update the VR Juggler /Configuration Guide/
> to
> reflect that.
>
>> @Dan again
>> When you say the driver doesn't work. Do you mean under windows, linux
>> or in general?
>
> Dan basically meant the same thing that I said. :)
>
> -Patrick
>
>> - Wouter
>>
>>
>> *From:* Daniel E. Shipton <mailto:dan...@gm...>
>> *To:* VR Juggler development discussion list
>> <mailto:vrj...@li...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:45 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [vrjuggler-devel] Flock of birds support
>>
>> On 2/13/07, *Wouter Wognum* <wo...@xs...
>> <mailto:wo...@xs...>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our
>> virtual reality CAVE.
>> I came across the following line in the juggler docs:
>>
>> The Flock of Birds® driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work
>> correctly. The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to
>> access the Flock of Birds® tracking system.
>>
>> So is this still valid for version 2.0.2?
>> The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether
>> there is any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler
>> driver or not.
>> Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :)
>>
>>
>> The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has some
>> hardcoded limitations but it will work.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>>
>> What operating system are you using? The only OS that I know of
>> where the
>> Flock driver definitely doesn't work is Linux with a 2.6 kernel. It
>> probably
>> works on Windows, and I know that it worked with a Linux 2.4 kernel.
>> Whatever the problem is in the driver that prevents it from with
>> with a
>> Linux 2.6 kernel could probably be fixed given access to the
>> hardware and
>> sufficient time.
>>
>> -Patrick
>
>
> --
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From: Patrick H. <pa...@in...> - 2007-02-14 14:55:23
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Wouter Wognum wrote: > Hi again, >=20 > I'm currently trying to get the FOB to work with vrjuggler on windows X= P. > I've included the config file I'm using. >=20 > Comport and baudrate settings are correct. The fob does work with the > winbird test-application provided by ascension-tech. > I've added an inputmanager to the configuration, which loads the > flock_drv. I also added a driver scan path to the inputmanager, which I= > set to the path with the Bird.dll win32 driver from ascension-tech. Do not do this. As you see in the output, Bird.dll cannot be loaded. > As a result, the driver does try to initialize the FOB, but somehow fai= ls > in doing so. This is the output from juggler: >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > D:\simpleApp.exe "d:\config files\fobtest.jconf" [snip] > [0004068/000] DBG:Loading library: > D:\vrirrlicht\src\vrjuggler-2.0.1-win32-vc71\lib\gadgeteer\drivers\Floc= k_drv.dll > [ OK ] > [0004068/000] gadgetINP:[gadget::InputManager::configureInputManager()]= > Searching for driver DSOs in 'D:\fobdriver' > [0004068/000] DBG:Loading library: =20 > D:\fobdriver\Bird.dll [ FAILED lookup ] > [0004068/000] DBG:WARNING: Failed to look up entry point function > 'initDevice' in DSO 'D:\fobdriver\Bird.dll' > [0004068/000] DBG:Type: input_manager =20 > InputManager0 [ OK ] > [0004068/000] DBG:DeviceInterface found proxy: = > SimHeadProxy [ OK ] > [0004068/000] DBG:Type: user = =20 > Gebruiker [ OK ] > Update action always NOW in Win32 > Canoncial State not yet implemented, EOF is enabled. > [0004068/000] DBG:Flock error: Incomplete command response > Flock Status: > status:Open > mode:Unknown mode > addr mode:Normal Addressing > mstr addr:1 > output fmt:PositionQuaternion > report rate:MaxRate > hemi:Lower > filter:AC Narrow > sync:1 > model: > sw ver:0 > port:COM1 > baud:115200 > Transmitters at indices: > --- Bird Internal ---: > mActiveUnitEndIndex:1920360295 > mNumSensors:0 > Addr to sensor map: > [0004068/000] DBG: [FlockStandalone] Configuring the flock. >=20 > This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusua= l > way. Please contact the application's support team for more information= =2E >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > And as you can see, it crashes. > It also is unable to load the Bird.dll driver. But I don't know whether= it > is necessary to use this driver. You cannot load just any driver into the Input Manager. It has to be a Gadgeteer driver. So, no, it is not necessary (or possible) to load Bird.= dll. > So am I doing something wrong here (which I hope) or is the driver just= > not compatible with windows? I guess I was wrong about the driver working on Windows. First, run the application again with VPR_DEBUG_NFY_LEVEL set to 3 and post that output.= The message saying that there was an incomplete command response seems ba= d, but unfortunately it does not say what it was querying when that happened= =2E Beyond that, if you can provide a stack trace from a debug build to show where it is crashing, that would be very helpful. My guess is that with a= debug build, you'll see an assertion failure probably caused by the addressing mode being unknown. -Patrick >> Wouter Wognum wrote: >>> Sorry for the previous e-mail; pressed the wrong key :) >>> >>> @Dan >>> What kind of limitations does the VRPN driver have? >> I believe that it hard codes the transmitter hemisphere setting. >> >>> @Patrick >>> We use both windows and linux with 2.6 kernel. >>> But it's no problem to switch to 2.4 if that will work. >>> So are you saying the current vrjuggler fob driver probably DOES work= in >>> windows? >>> If so, I'll test it tomorrow and let you know :) >> The last I knew, the driver worked on Windows. However, that is >> second-hand >> information since I did not see it working myself. Beyond that, I have= n't >> used a Flock of Birds since Dan and I worked out kinks in the current >> driver >> back in November 2004. That was using IRIX 6.5 and a Linux 2.4 kernel = for >> testing. Getting an update on the usability on Windows would be good. = If >> it >> works on Windows, then I will update the VR Juggler /Configuration Gui= de/ >> to >> reflect that. >> >>> @Dan again >>> When you say the driver doesn't work. Do you mean under windows, linu= x >>> or in general? >> Dan basically meant the same thing that I said. :) >> >> -Patrick >> >>> - Wouter >>> >>> >>> *From:* Daniel E. Shipton <mailto:dan...@gm...> >>> *To:* VR Juggler development discussion list >>> <mailto:vrj...@li...> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:45 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [vrjuggler-devel] Flock of birds support >>> >>> On 2/13/07, *Wouter Wognum* <wo...@xs... >>> <mailto:wo...@xs...>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our >>> virtual reality CAVE. >>> I came across the following line in the juggler docs: >>> >>> The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work >>> correctly. The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to= >>> access the Flock of Birds=AE tracking system. >>> >>> So is this still valid for version 2.0.2? >>> The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know wheth= er >>> there is any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler= >>> driver or not. >>> Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :) >>> >>> >>> The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has so= me >>> hardcoded limitations but it will work. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> What operating system are you using? The only OS that I know of >>> where the >>> Flock driver definitely doesn't work is Linux with a 2.6 kernel. = It >>> probably >>> works on Windows, and I know that it worked with a Linux 2.4 kern= el. >>> Whatever the problem is in the driver that prevents it from with >>> with a >>> Linux 2.6 kernel could probably be fixed given access to the >>> hardware and >>> sufficient time. >>> >>> -Patrick --=20 Patrick L. Hartling | VP Engineering, Infiscape Corp. PGP: http://tinyurl.com/2msw3 | http://www.infiscape.com/ |
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From: Patrick H. <pa...@in...> - 2007-02-13 16:46:22
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Wouter Wognum wrote: > Hi, > =20 > I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our virtual > reality CAVE. > I came across the following line in the juggler docs: > =20 > The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work correctly.= > The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to access the Flock of > Birds=AE tracking system. > =20 > So is this still valid for version 2.0.2? > The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether there i= s > any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler driver or not. > Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :) What operating system are you using? The only OS that I know of where the= Flock driver definitely doesn't work is Linux with a 2.6 kernel. It proba= bly works on Windows, and I know that it worked with a Linux 2.4 kernel. Whatever the problem is in the driver that prevents it from with with a Linux 2.6 kernel could probably be fixed given access to the hardware and= sufficient time. -Patrick --=20 Patrick L. Hartling | VP Engineering, Infiscape Corp. PGP: http://tinyurl.com/2msw3 | http://www.infiscape.com/ |
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From: Wouter W. <wo...@xs...> - 2007-02-13 17:18:47
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On 2/13/07, Wouter Wognum <wo...@xs...> wrote:
Hi,
I'm currently trying to configure a flock of birds for our virtual =
reality CAVE.
I came across the following line in the juggler docs:
The Flock of Birds=AE driver in VR Juggler 2.0 does not work =
correctly. The VRPN or Trackd drivers must be used instead to access the =
Flock of Birds=AE tracking system.
So is this still valid for version 2.0.2?=20
The reason I'm asking this, is because I'd like to know whether =
there is any point in trying to set it up using the vrjuggler driver or =
not.
Otherwise I'll just try VRPN right away :)
The Flock driver does not work in t 2.0.2. The VRPN driver has some =
hardcoded limitations but it will work.
-Dan |
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