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From: <jam...@fd...> - 2007-05-22 10:11:32
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Hi all, As I suspected, finally we have a complete disorder. If you get a new computer using win32. Install Python 2.5.1 Install vpython, vpython does not work because there is no Numeric module installed. If you go to the page of Numeric Numpy, you see that all versions of the old Numeric for python 2.5 where deleted and there is no version of the old Numeric for Python 2.5 So, you must install the New Numeric wich is Numpy. But it seems that vpython does not work with this version. The unique option is to use numarray, but numarray has been discontinued an will no longer be mainained an updated. So, should we do ? regards. -- ==================================================== Jose Antonio Martin H. Departamento de Sistemas Informáticos y Computación Facultad de Informática Universidad Complutense de Madrid Ciudad universitaria, 28040 Madrid ==================================================== |
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From: Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...> - 2007-05-22 15:19:22
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I don't understand. The VPython installer VPython-Win-Py2.5-3.2.10.exe for Python 2.5 available at vpython.org includes Numeric. This installer was made last fall to get around precisely the problem you describe, the lack of a separately available Numeric. I just verified that this works as intended, though admittedly with Python 2.5 which I happen to have on my computer, not Python 2.5.1 (but I would be shocked if that made a difference). If you look in c:\Python25\Lib\site-packages you should see a folder for Numeric as well as a folder for visual. I would suggest using the Add/remove control panel to remove VPython and re-install it, though I don't know why that should be necessary nor why it should help the situation. Has anyone else had a related experience? Incidentally, one of the big contributions made by the late Arthur Siegel was to change Visual to use numpy instead of Numeric in the beta version of Visual. Bruce José Antonio Martín H wrote: > Hi all, As I suspected, finally we have a complete disorder. > > If you get a new computer using win32. > > Install Python 2.5.1 > Install vpython, > vpython does not work because there is no Numeric module installed. > > If you go to the page of Numeric Numpy, you see that all versions of the > old Numeric for python 2.5 where deleted and there is no version of the > old Numeric for Python 2.5 > > So, you must install the New Numeric wich is Numpy. > But it seems that vpython does not work with this version. > > The unique option is to use numarray, but numarray has been discontinued > an will no longer be mainained an updated. > > So, should we do ? > > regards. > |
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From: <jam...@fd...> - 2007-05-22 16:01:06
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Hi, Bruce This is what I get. I have removed and resintalled vpython but the problem still remains. Also, I cannot find any Numeric for python 2.5 !!! It seems that i was deleted in order to force people to migrate to the new Numpy. Bests. jose. Bruce Sherwood escribió: > I don't understand. The VPython installer VPython-Win-Py2.5-3.2.10.exe > for Python 2.5 available at vpython.org includes Numeric. This installer > was made last fall to get around precisely the problem you describe, the > lack of a separately available Numeric. I just verified that this works > as intended, though admittedly with Python 2.5 which I happen to have on > my computer, not Python 2.5.1 (but I would be shocked if that made a > difference). > > If you look in c:\Python25\Lib\site-packages you should see a folder for > Numeric as well as a folder for visual. > > I would suggest using the Add/remove control panel to remove VPython and > re-install it, though I don't know why that should be necessary nor why > it should help the situation. > > Has anyone else had a related experience? > > Incidentally, one of the big contributions made by the late Arthur > Siegel was to change Visual to use numpy instead of Numeric in the beta > version of Visual. > > Bruce > > José Antonio Martín H wrote: > >> Hi all, As I suspected, finally we have a complete disorder. >> >> If you get a new computer using win32. >> >> Install Python 2.5.1 >> Install vpython, >> vpython does not work because there is no Numeric module installed. >> >> If you go to the page of Numeric Numpy, you see that all versions of the >> old Numeric for python 2.5 where deleted and there is no version of the >> old Numeric for Python 2.5 >> >> So, you must install the New Numeric wich is Numpy. >> But it seems that vpython does not work with this version. >> >> The unique option is to use numarray, but numarray has been discontinued >> an will no longer be mainained an updated. >> >> So, should we do ? >> >> regards. >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Visualpython-users mailing list > Vis...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/visualpython-users > -- ==================================================== Jose Antonio Martin H. Departamento de Sistemas Informáticos y Computación Facultad de Informática Universidad Complutense de Madrid Ciudad universitaria, 28040 Madrid ==================================================== |
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From: Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...> - 2007-05-22 17:12:56
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Thanks for showing the VPython installer page. The reason that Numeric doesn't show up as a choice is because it is BUILT INTO the VPython installer. You don't need to install Numeric separately, and no choice is offered. The reason why Numeric is built into the VPython installer for Python 2.5 is precisely because Numeric itself has been made unavailable, to force people to migrate to numpy, as you say. As a stop-gap measure, last fall I compiled Numeric from the still-available source code and bundled it into the VPython installer for Windows, so that there would be a VPython for Python 2.5 on Windows. The long-term solution is to get the beta version of VPython working on Windows (and Mac), with its reliance on numpy. So I say again, after running the VPython installer you should see in c:\Python25\Lib\site-packages a folder for numeric as well as a folder for visual. Do you see both of these folders? Then it's a separate question why you're unable to run. Bruce José Antonio Martín H wrote: > Hi, Bruce > This is what I get. > I have removed and resintalled vpython but the problem still remains. > > Also, I cannot find any Numeric for python 2.5 !!! It seems that i was > deleted in order to force people to migrate to the new Numpy. > Bests. > jose. > |
