From: Floris B. <fb...@so...> - 2005-01-13 11:07:23
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Unrelated on this thread here, but anyway... On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Jonathan Brandmeyer wrote: > If you really want to build with just Numarray, you can do this with > version 3.1.0 of Visual, which was the first release to support > Numarray. It can be found from the Sourceforge download page. Hmm I didn't realise 3.1.0 was released for *NIX already, I must have missed the announcement. To make matters even worse I have had a bad hardware crash and am thus (hopefully not for too long) working on a machine not capable of compiling or running VPython. This means I can't really produce a Debian package for version 3.1.0 for now. What I remember from packaging the 3.1.0 where things still needed to be changed in the build scripts (did you manage to get them right?) is that it didn't need any changes to de debian/ subtree at all. So I could just apply the old debian tree to it but I don't want to advertise it publicly when I can't test it. If you're really eager in getting 3.1.0 as a Debian package you can just try and copy the debian/ tree yourself, it will be equally untested. I'll try to get remote access to a machine running debian where I have enough administrative rights to build and install which *is* capable to compile VPython over the weekend. This means I still won't be able to test the graphics but I will be able to test and tweak the build. Greetings Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org |
From: Gary <pa...@in...> - 2005-01-13 14:01:55
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Between semesters I have been looking at the Quantian scientific computing environment, "A Knoppix / Debian variant tailored to numerical and quantitative analysis." Knoppix is a "live CD Linux", that is, it boots from a CD, and the entire OS is on the CD. So it can run on any x86 machine that can boot from a CD. Your home directory and configuration (/etc) can be saved to a floppy or USB device. The Quantian varient is loaded with just about every bit of technical software that you can imagine ... TeX, Grace, xfig, TeXmacs, octave, maxima, scilab, ipython, matplotlib, etc etc. Most of it I've never even heard of. I've been very impressed. It works really well. The only downside is that you can't easily upgrade or install new software. (You can do it, but the key word is 'easily'.) That's the trade-off for a completely portable Linux scientific environment: wait for the next version. But vpython is missing. I asked the developer, Dirk Eddelbuettel, about adding it, and he replied " Sounds cool. Once again, packaged in Debian would my life a hell of a lot easier -- so could you file an 'rfp' bug against the virtual wnpp package? If you use the reportbug(1) tool, a stanza should appear that you can fill with some data we commonly supply for 'request for packages' bug. " This paragraph may as well be written in Greek. I assume it's in Debianese. Can anyone interpret and comment on the feasibility of doing this? Is it a big deal? I also assume one needs a Debian to prepare the pacakge. Volunteers? some fine print about Quantian: Knoppix fits on a CD, but Quantian is too big. It's actually a "live DVD". But if you, like me, can't burn DVDs there's a very easy work-around. There is a facility to make a permanent installation to hard drive. Then you can update using apt-get. But the installer is rudimentary, and puts everything in one partition. Not the best. It also appears to be possible to install to an external USB drive and boot directly from that if your bios supports it. ( I've gotten Fedora to boot that way after a fair amount of work under the hood, but it appears that Knoppix has it built-in. Not sure about that ... my (used / ebay) external USB drive crashed as I was trying it out.) -gary |
From: Jonathan B. <jbr...@ea...> - 2005-01-13 14:37:24
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On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 09:01 -0500, Gary wrote: > But vpython is missing. I asked the developer, Dirk Eddelbuettel, about > adding it, and he replied > " > Sounds cool. Once again, packaged in Debian would my life a hell of a lot > easier -- so could you file an 'rfp' bug against the virtual wnpp package? > If you use the reportbug(1) tool, a stanza should appear that you can fill > with some data we commonly supply for 'request for packages' bug. > " RFP: Request for Package. A kind of bug that a Debian user files against the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) package. This has already been done http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=112118, but little action has been taken on it in years. > This paragraph may as well be written in Greek. I assume it's in > Debianese. Can anyone interpret and comment on the feasibility of doing > this? Is it a big deal? I also assume one needs a Debian to prepare > the pacakge. Volunteers? Floris Bruynooghe had produced an unofficial package of VPython for Debian. You can find various messages about them in the archives if you search for her name. HTH, -Jonathan |