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[Visualpython-users] Vpython For Low-Tech Artists

[Joel K. <jj...@ya...>]

I have two related questions.

1. I am looking at ways to use vpython as a set of
tools to help artists who have relatively limited
computer expertise and who mainly work in traditional
physical media--textiles, sculpture, jewelry, &c. Does
anyone have info on work that has already been done
along these general lines?

2. In connection with the above, I want to have an
installation of vpython that can effectively and
reliably run entirely off of a CD-ROM on a computer
that has no python stuff installed at all. I'm not
sure whether my attempts so far to set this up are
going to function right or not. Has anyone out there
made this work? If so, can I get some details?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'll be glad to
pass progress reports on to interested parties.

Joel Kahn
Springfield, Missouri


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[Visualpython-users] Vpython For Low-Tech Artists

[Joel K. <jj...@ya...>]

Thanks for the replies so far. I should make it clear
that I'm running python in Windows--XP on my machine,
and presumably in various versions from 95 through XP
on other machines that may be involved. Any CD-ROM
setups of vpython that I use will need to be in this
context. If I encounter Mac/Linux/&c situations, I'll
deal with them as they occur.

Joel


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Re: [Visualpython-users] Vpython For Low-Tech Artists

[Jonathan B. <jbr...@ea...>]

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 15:42, Joel Kahn wrote:
> Thanks for the replies so far. I should make it clear
> that I'm running python in Windows--XP on my machine,
> and presumably in various versions from 95 through XP
> on other machines that may be involved. Any CD-ROM
> setups of vpython that I use will need to be in this
> context. If I encounter Mac/Linux/&c situations, I'll
> deal with them as they occur.
> 
> Joel

I would use Bruce's suggestion with one small enhancement.
Create a file named autorun.bat in the Python23 directory with this
line:
pythonw.exe .\Lib\idlelib\idle.pyw

Also create a file autorun.inf (same place) with these contents:
[autorun]
open=autorun.bat
icon=py.ico

Then burn the disk with the complete contents of the Python23 directory
and you will get a Python "Live" CD that will automatically open up IDLE
when inserted into the host computer.  Running from CD isn't exactly
fast, though.  The biggest slowdown will be noticed when executing
import statements.

HTH,
Jonathan Brandmeyer

Re: [Visualpython-users] Vpython For Low-Tech Artists

[Bruce S. <bas...@un...>]

I don't happen to know about people using VPython for artistic purposes, 
but on question 2 I'll comment that there may be a solution for Windows. 
It is possible to install Python without touching the Windows registry, 
so you don't need administrative access. I have for example run this 
version (including VPython) out of a remote file on a public-cluster 
Windows machine on which I couldn't install software myself.

If I remember correctly, what I did was install Python in the special 
nonadministrative mode (which if I remember correctly was an option in 
the install process), then run the VPython installer, telling it where 
Python was. Then the entire Python23 folder could simply be written to 
CD and used from there, I would think. I think the only (mild) 
limitation is that *.py files won't automatically be linked to Python. 
But as long as you start from IDLE, rather than double-clicking a *.py 
file, this won't matter.

Bruce Sherwood

Joel Kahn wrote:

>I have two related questions.
>
>1. I am looking at ways to use vpython as a set of
>tools to help artists who have relatively limited
>computer expertise and who mainly work in traditional
>physical media--textiles, sculpture, jewelry, &c. Does
>anyone have info on work that has already been done
>along these general lines?
>
>2. In connection with the above, I want to have an
>installation of vpython that can effectively and
>reliably run entirely off of a CD-ROM on a computer
>that has no python stuff installed at all. I'm not
>sure whether my attempts so far to set this up are
>going to function right or not. Has anyone out there
>made this work? If so, can I get some details?
>
>Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'll be glad to
>pass progress reports on to interested parties.
>
>Joel Kahn
>Springfield, Missouri
>
>
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Re: [Visualpython-users] Vpython For Low-Tech Artists

[Martin G. <ge...@la...>]

Regarding item #2, while I have not done this, it shouldn't be
too hard to do, starting with Morphix (which is intended for
building custom live-CD linux distributions).  This might not
be what you had in mind, though---or was it?

Martin Gelfand
Dept of Physics, Colorado State

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Joel Kahn wrote:

> I have two related questions.
>
> 1. I am looking at ways to use vpython as a set of
> tools to help artists who have relatively limited
> computer expertise and who mainly work in traditional
> physical media--textiles, sculpture, jewelry, &c. Does
> anyone have info on work that has already been done
> along these general lines?
>
> 2. In connection with the above, I want to have an
> installation of vpython that can effectively and
> reliably run entirely off of a CD-ROM on a computer
> that has no python stuff installed at all. I'm not
> sure whether my attempts so far to set this up are
> going to function right or not. Has anyone out there
> made this work? If so, can I get some details?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'll be glad to
> pass progress reports on to interested parties.
>
> Joel Kahn
> Springfield, Missouri
>
>
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