Re: [Visualpython-users] Idle Error for Vpython for Python23

[Bruce S. <bas...@un...>]

Thanks much for the detailed history. The new VPython installer for 
Python 2.3 assumes that the new IDLE was installed by the Python 2.3 
installer and therefore doesn't install the old IDLE for VPython. I 
guess the VPython installer could try to detect that there is no IDLE 
and then not generate a shortcut to that nonexistent IDLE.

There may also be something wrong with the wording of the installation 
instructions for VPython, in that in your step 5 you say ".exe + zip 
files". The intent of the wording about those zip files was to say that 
if you used the VPython installer, there was no reason to touch those 
zip files, which are there just to make it possible for someone to 
update individual components of the VPython stuff without a full 
reinstall of VPython (e.g. new docs or demos). The only reason you got a 
copy of the old IDLE for VPython was that you used those extra zip 
files. I'll see if I can improve the wording, but our intent is to drop 
the old IDLE for VPython completely, and not have a zip file for it.

I do recommend that you get the new IDLE, which is much improved over 
the old one.

Bruce Sherwood

David Porter wrote:

>Bruce
>        I installed python23 on 2 machines today and this is what I did:
>        1. Install python23 minus Tcl   The version of Tcl that comes with python breaks the PMW-BLT connection
>        2. Install Activestate Tcl 8.4.4 into the python23 directory 
>        3. Install BLT into "c:\python23\tcl"
>        4. Install PMW into "c:\python23"
>        5. Install VPython (.exe + zip files)
>
>The idle short cut that appeared on the desk pointed to idle.pyw in "c:\python23\lib\idlelib\idle.pyw". The only file in that directory is config-main.def (refer to step 1). As I did not install Tcl, I also did not install the version of Idle which comes with python23. I found idle.pyw in "c:\python23\lib\site-packages\visual\idle_vpython\". I changed the short cut to point to the directory in which I found idle.pyw. After that everything worked fine, including PMW/BLT. It sounds like there may be a mistake in VPython which still installs idle. I wouldn't change anything other than let people like me know where to find the old vpython version of idle.
>
>        Regards
>        DRP
>
>At 11:36 AM 8/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:
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>>I don't understand. There is no visual\idle_vpython\idle.pyw anymore. Now that Python 2.3 contains an IDLE with the features of the old idle_vpython, the VPython installer no longer installs idle_vpython, and the shortcut correctly points instead to this:
>>
>>  C:\Python23\pythonw.exe C:\Python23\Lib\idlelib\idle.pyw
>>
>>The shortcut you suggest should take you nowhere. ??
>>
>>Bruce Sherwood
>>
>>David Porter wrote:
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>>
>>>Guys
>>>       There is a minor error in the idle Windows install. The short cut on the desktop points to the wrong location for idle. The short cut target property has to be changed to:
>>>"c:\python23\pythonw.exe c:\python23\lib\site-packages\visual\idle_vpython\idle.pyw"
>>>       Regards
>>>       DRP
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