From: Russell J. <rus...@ph...> - 2017-01-12 11:08:32
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On 11/01/17 12:40, free wrote: > On 01/11/2017 03:09 AM, Bruce Sherwood wrote: >> This email list is indeed dead, but Magnus Elden found it using Google, >> alas. It has long been superceded by the VPython forum at >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups&hl=en#!forum/vpython-users >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups&hl=en#%21forum/vpython-users> >> >> VPython itself is very much alive. See vpython.org <http://vpython.org>. > Thanks for replying, and sorry for hijacking the thread, and for > performing necromancy on a dead email list. > > From over here things seem a bit different. > > What I came to know and love as vpython had been rebranded "classical > vpython" and is no longer maintained. > > I want a vpython free of all kinds of encumbrances and dependencies on > corporations, webbrowsers and integrated development environments. In > fact I want it to be as lean and mean a layer over opengl as humanly > possible to program, while still retaining all the nice abstractions. > > I believe that it was long overdue for vpython to switch away from using > compiled C code, specifically boost, and instead to start to use ctypes > or cffi. That would mean one could much easier maintain and develop it, > because there would be no code compile run loop and instead one would be > accessing already compiled functions that exist in some system library. > > Pi3d is an example of the kind of this thing I'd want, except of course > vpython (the classical vpython) has a much larger mindshare and cultural > background, based on a long history of use. > > I suspect that maybe some of these considerations have been at the basis > of your decisions, unfortunately resulting in a direction that doesn't > please me too much :( but that I think I can understand. > Have a look at http://vispy.org/ as well. It seems vpython-users doesn't allow mailing list-type subscriptions, which seems a bit odd as I thought Google Groups allowed that. Maybe that's only for gmail. Russell |