vimprobable-users

[Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

This replaces the current Javascript-based logic to automatically
activate INSERT when the user clicks on a form element (hence the
commented lines which will finally disappear completely). Thanks to
porti!

Hannes

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:10:36PM +0100, Hannes Schüller wrote:
> This replaces the current Javascript-based logic to automatically
> activate INSERT when the user clicks on a form element (hence the
> commented lines which will finally disappear completely). Thanks to
> porti!
> 
> Hannes

This works pretty fine. I like to decide when to switch to insert mode. Until
today, I spent some time on pages that have some search form that caused the
switch to insert mode automatically, so that my prefered movement commands
like CTRL-D didn't work until I switched back to normal mode via ESC.

At the moment I have disables scripts and wonder why the input-focus did not
work. The hinting is also done via javascript and work also if scripts=false.
If I use google to search, vimprobable keeps in insert mode after performing
the search, so I have to hit ESC before hinting some of the result links. With
enabled javascript is was no problem without the patch.

Is there a way to combine both features, activate insert mode only on request
(click, hint) and to leave insertmode if form field leaves the focus, also if
javascript is disabled?

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> Is there a way to combine both features, activate insert mode only on
> request (click, hint) and to leave insertmode if form field leaves
> the focus, also if javascript is disabled?

Isn't this the behaviour after applying the patch?

Hannes

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

Hi Hannes!
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:54:30AM +0100, Hannes Schüller wrote:
> Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> > Is there a way to combine both features, activate insert mode only on
> > request (click, hint) and to leave insertmode if form field leaves
> > the focus, also if javascript is disabled?
> 
> Isn't this the behaviour after applying the patch?

At the moment vimprobable keeps in insert mode also if a form was
submitted.

To reproduce:
- open google.com
- klick into search input ant type 'vimprobable'
- press enter to perform the search (with kilch oh search button it
  works)
- when the searchresult appear, vimprobable is still in insert mode and
  movement keystrokes doesn't work

I think we can switch vimprobable hard to normal mode after page loaded
or track if the input field looses the focus.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:46:59AM +0100, Daniel Carl wrote:
> I think we can switch vimprobable hard to normal mode after page loaded
> or track if the input field looses the focus.
> 
> Daniel

Attached patch switches vimprobable back to normal mode after page loaded. For
me it seem's not to break existing functionality, but I haven't tested it a
lot. Patch is applied on previous one from Hannes.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:46:59AM +0100, Daniel Carl wrote:
> > I think we can switch vimprobable hard to normal mode after page
> > loaded or track if the input field looses the focus.
> 
> Attached patch switches vimprobable back to normal mode after page
> loaded. For me it seem's not to break existing functionality, but I
> haven't tested it a lot. Patch is applied on previous one from Hannes.

I thought about this, too, but it does in fact change current
functionality. My suggestion is this:

- INSERT mode should be switched to normal mode
- PASSTHROUGH mode should stay active

That should cover it.

Hannes

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:46:59AM +0100, Daniel Carl wrote:
> > I think we can switch vimprobable hard to normal mode after page
> > loaded or track if the input field looses the focus.
> > 
> > Daniel
> 
> Attached patch switches vimprobable back to normal mode after page
> loaded. For me it seem's not to break existing functionality, but I
> haven't tested it a lot. Patch is applied on previous one from Hannes.

Sorry for the very short e-mail yesterday. This is what I'm proposing.

Hannes

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Applied

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 07:46:39PM +0100, Hannes Schüller wrote:
> Sorry for the very short e-mail yesterday. This is what I'm proposing.
> 
> Hannes
It's OK, I knew what you mean, but I'm undecided if it's the right
behaviour to leave only insert mode after page load.

The patch works for me, because I had always troubles with insert mode
that wasn't left after form post. But I'm not sure if it's good to keep
in mode passthrough after loading a page. Maybe the other users can post
their opinions.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> Maybe the other users can post their opinions.

It *would* be nice, but it hardly ever happens.

My rationale: PASSTHROUGH is always set manually, i.e. the user has
specifically requested it. Dumping him back to normal mode would seem
to go against the expectations ("I set PASSTHROUGH"). INSERT is usually
handled automatically, so this should work in both directions
(activation and deactivation). 

Hannes

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 12:25:37PM +0100, Hannes Schüller wrote:
> My rationale: PASSTHROUGH is always set manually, i.e. the user has
> specifically requested it. Dumping him back to normal mode would seem
> to go against the expectations ("I set PASSTHROUGH"). INSERT is usually
> handled automatically, so this should work in both directions
> (activation and deactivation). 
> 
> Hannes

This makes sense! I think we can do it in that way.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Automatic INSERT through mouse clicks without Javascript

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Applied