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[Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[niemand n. <nie...@gm...>]

Ayayay, apparently we use a different mailing list these days! Living in
cave has it's disadvantages, apparently...

-N

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From: niemand nobody <nie...@gm...>
Date: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:58 PM
Subject: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable
To: Vim...@vi...


Hi there,

Certain websites lag A LOT on Vimprobable. One example is
creativecommons.org. I've tested this with UZBL, Surf, and Chromium: the
first two share this problem, but the last does not.

I tried disabling java, javascript, and plugins as a hail mary, but it
didn't make a dent.

This is the only thing that keeps me going back to Chromium with Vimium...

Thanks!

niemand

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

Hi!
> Certain websites lag A LOT on Vimprobable. One example is
> creativecommons.org. I've tested this with UZBL, Surf, and Chromium: the
> first two share this problem, but the last does not.
> 
> I tried disabling java, javascript, and plugins as a hail mary, but it
> didn't make a dent.
> 
> This is the only thing that keeps me going back to Chromium with Vimium...

I have no chromium here, but surfing on named pages seem's to be as fast as
on other pages. What takes the time, loading th html or to view it in the
browser?
Maybe Chromium uses a better caching, precaching and for this page better
value for max piplining requests.

I don't think that the bad performance lay in the vimprobable itself, but in
the webkit engine, but I'm not sure.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[niemand n. <nie...@gm...>]

> I have no chromium here, but surfing on named pages seem's to be as fast as
> on other pages. What takes the time, loading th html or to view it in the
> browser?
> Daniel
>

The lag occurs after the page loads. For example, when I go to
www.creativecommons.org, the page will load just fine, but then
scrolling up and down will take AGES. Same with trying to do anything
else on it. I know that the problem is not creativecommons.org,
either, as I've seen it elsewhere.

I doubt that it is a Vimprobable problem, though, as I can replicate
it on the other minimalist webkit browsers Surf and UZBL, but not
Chromium nor also Firefox.

-N

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

Hi!
On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:25:01AM -0700, niemand nobody wrote:
> I doubt that it is a Vimprobable problem, though, as I can replicate
> it on the other minimalist webkit browsers Surf and UZBL, but not
> Chromium nor also Firefox.

I can't feel a significant slower scrolling with vimprobable compared to
firefox, and if there's a difference I would say vimprobable scrolls a little
faster and smoother than firefix does.

Is there anybody else with this problem? Maybe we can find a solution to make
such pages as fast as with other browsers - or faster.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[niemand n. <nie...@gm...>]

Is there anything I can do to help resolve this problem? I love using
Vimprobable, but it's a total bummer when I come across the occasional
super-laggy website.

Thanks,

-N

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi!
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:25:01AM -0700, niemand nobody wrote:
> > I doubt that it is a Vimprobable problem, though, as I can replicate
> > it on the other minimalist webkit browsers Surf and UZBL, but not
> > Chromium nor also Firefox.
>
> I can't feel a significant slower scrolling with vimprobable compared to
> firefox, and if there's a difference I would say vimprobable scrolls a
> little
> faster and smoother than firefix does.
>
> Is there anybody else with this problem? Maybe we can find a solution to
> make
> such pages as fast as with other browsers - or faster.
>
> Daniel
>
>
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Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[Hans-Peter D. <hpd...@gm...>]

Hi,

On 12:12 Sat 03 Sep     , niemand nobody wrote:
> Is there anything I can do to help resolve this problem? I love using
> Vimprobable, but it's a total bummer when I come across the occasional
> super-laggy website.

I had also experienced this lag on some sites with heavy CSS magic, but
the problems have been gone for a while now, so I suspected a WebKit
update.

I just tried http://creativecommons.org/ with two different WebKit
versions. The result:

	webkit-gtk-1.2.7 is slow
	webkit-gtk-1.4.2 is fast


Regards,
HP

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[Daniel C. <dan...@gm...>]

Hi!
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:48:07PM +0200, Hans-Peter Deifel wrote:
> I just tried http://creativecommons.org/ with two different WebKit
> versions. The result:
> 
> 	webkit-gtk-1.2.7 is slow
> 	webkit-gtk-1.4.2 is fast

I have version 1.3.13 in use and it's also already fast. The issue was fixed
in webkit 1.3.6 (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22102). 

Mabe you can use a user css script (.config/vimprobable/style.css) to overrule
the -webkit-box-shadow and -webkit-border-radius properties for a better
scroll performance. This should work for the first.

Daniel

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[niemand n. <nie...@gm...>]

I installed webkit gtk 1.4.0 and, voila!, www.creativecommons.org is
speedy as it should be! I very much appreciate everyone's help in
this!

Thanks,

-N

On 9/4/11, Daniel Carl <dan...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi!
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:48:07PM +0200, Hans-Peter Deifel wrote:
>> I just tried http://creativecommons.org/ with two different WebKit
>> versions. The result:
>>
>> 	webkit-gtk-1.2.7 is slow
>> 	webkit-gtk-1.4.2 is fast
>
> I have version 1.3.13 in use and it's also already fast. The issue was fixed
> in webkit 1.3.6 (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22102).
>
> Mabe you can use a user css script (.config/vimprobable/style.css) to
> overrule
> the -webkit-box-shadow and -webkit-border-radius properties for a better
> scroll performance. This should work for the first.
>
> Daniel
>

Re: [Vimprobable-users] Fwd: Some sites reeeeeally slow on Vimprobable

[Hannes S. <ha...@yl...>]

Hi!

niemand nobody <nie...@gm...> wrote:
> Certain websites lag A LOT on Vimprobable. One example is
> creativecommons.org. I've tested this with UZBL, Surf, and Chromium:
> the first two share this problem, but the last does not.

I, too, have experienced this on some sites. I fear, though, that it is
related to screen drawing, i.e. a problem somewhere between Webkit, GTK
and Cairo. I could not find any components controlled by Vimprobable
itself lagging.

Hannes