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[Vimplugin-devel] Reviving vimplugin

[Sebastian M. <seb...@un...>]

Hi 

(for the third time in 5 Minutes)

As you probably noticed something is happening again with this project.

Let me explain why: In the last year I had not the time or the energy to
maintain this actively. The project was about to die. But over time some
emails reached me encouriging to go on, asking questions how to get to
use the plugin etc. I came to the conclusion that there is enough
potential for a small community. 

So the new effort is more focussed on bringing people together, in the
hope, that the project will sustain itself. Some things I did or will do
next days:

1) reannounce the project to attract new people.
2) setup a commits-mailing list
3) setting reply-to such that all main discussion will go on here.
4) opened the forums on sf.net
5) switch to subversion
6) update the website

Any more ideas?

And here some technical stuff.

1) Though we can use the beloved vim inside eclipse, the integration is
very weak. How cool would it be to have some of the cool eclipse
features for use with vim (e.g. incremental build, refactorings )

2) There is an option to use vim as an external editor of netbeans:
http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/
http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/netbeans.html

Do you think this would be an option for a tighter integration of the
vimplugin?

Regards, Sebastian.

Re: [Vimplugin-devel] Reviving vimplugin

[Scott T. <sub...@gm...>]

I have a great interest in this project, as it solves a problem I'm looking
to solve, and it does so without charging me anything. I'm also interested
in helping you if you need the assistance. I have a solid background in C,
C++, Java(including eclipse), Perl, and Unix/Linux.

I got vimplugin to work using the directions you gave me below. My problem
was file associations, because I was trying to open a Perl file to edit,
which isn't setup by default to work with Vim. The Window|Preferences menu
cleared that up.

As for your plans with the project

1) I think re-announcing this would get a lot of people interested. You may
consider starting an IRC channel. There's a decent sized community working
behind viplugin, but they're charging for the product so I'm not interested.
I'm sure there's a lot more people like myself who would rather not pay for
software if they don't have to.

2) A commit mailing list would be helpful.

3) Good idea.

4) Also a good idea.

5) SVN is excellent, much better than CVS.

6) At least to inform people that development has once again started.

I've noticed a few things missing from vim that I use quite a bit (eg. PGUP,
PGDOWN), and I can probably get double buffering to work as I've already
done so with a few projects back in my college days.

So yes, I'm behind this project and I would be happy to see a community
sprout around it.

- Scott

On 3/29/07, Sebastian Menge <seb...@un...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> (for the third time in 5 Minutes)
>
> As you probably noticed something is happening again with this project.
>
> Let me explain why: In the last year I had not the time or the energy to
> maintain this actively. The project was about to die. But over time some
> emails reached me encouriging to go on, asking questions how to get to
> use the plugin etc. I came to the conclusion that there is enough
> potential for a small community.
>
> So the new effort is more focussed on bringing people together, in the
> hope, that the project will sustain itself. Some things I did or will do
> next days:
>
> 1) reannounce the project to attract new people.
> 2) setup a commits-mailing list
> 3) setting reply-to such that all main discussion will go on here.
> 4) opened the forums on sf.net
> 5) switch to subversion
> 6) update the website
>
> Any more ideas?
>
> And here some technical stuff.
>
> 1) Though we can use the beloved vim inside eclipse, the integration is
> very weak. How cool would it be to have some of the cool eclipse
> features for use with vim (e.g. incremental build, refactorings )
>
> 2) There is an option to use vim as an external editor of netbeans:
> http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/
> http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/netbeans.html
>
> Do you think this would be an option for a tighter integration of the
> vimplugin?
>
> Regards, Sebastian.
>
>
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Re: [Vimplugin-devel] Reviving vimplugin

[Sebastian M. <seb...@un...>]

Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2007, 08:58 -0400 schrieb Scott Thompson:
> I have a great interest in this project, as it solves a problem I'm
> looking to solve, and it does so without charging me anything. I'm
> also interested in helping you if you need the assistance. I have a
> solid background in C, C++, Java(including eclipse), Perl, and
> Unix/Linux. 

That sounds great :-)


> 1) I think re-announcing this would get a lot of people interested.
> You may consider starting an IRC channel. There's a decent sized 

I dont have to much experience in IRC, especially using bots and the
like (i guess one needs that). If you want you can set a channel up on
freenode (#vimplugin). I will surely join the channel and publish it on
the website.


> community working behind viplugin, but they're charging for the 

Their plugin seems to be quite stable. Perhaps we can attract some of
their developers over the time and join forces.


> I've noticed a few things missing from vim that I use quite a bit (eg.
> PGUP, PGDOWN), and I can probably get double buffering to work as I've
> already done so with a few projects back in my college days.

That would be a good place to start :-)

We also have to take care of the bugs posted to the sf-bugtracker.

I have setup most of the things I mentioned in the last mail (forums,
SVN, commits-list, update of the website). 
See http://sf.net/projects/vimplugin   for details

Spread the word!

Sebastian.

PS As a side note: please use inline quoting rather than top-posting.
Thanks.

Re: [Vimplugin-devel] Reviving vimplugin

[Scott T. <sub...@gm...>]

On 3/29/07, Sebastian Menge <seb...@un...> wrote:
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2007, 08:58 -0400 schrieb Scott Thompson:
> > I have a great interest in this project, as it solves a problem I'm
> > looking to solve, and it does so without charging me anything. I'm
> > also interested in helping you if you need the assistance. I have a
> > solid background in C, C++, Java(including eclipse), Perl, and
> > Unix/Linux.
>
> That sounds great :-)
>
>
> > 1) I think re-announcing this would get a lot of people interested.
> > You may consider starting an IRC channel. There's a decent sized
>
> I dont have to much experience in IRC, especially using bots and the
> like (i guess one needs that). If you want you can set a channel up on
> freenode (#vimplugin). I will surely join the channel and publish it on
> the website.


I  don't have a lot of experience with IRC either, other than using it. But
it would be good way to collaborate.

> community working behind viplugin, but they're charging for the
>
> Their plugin seems to be quite stable. Perhaps we can attract some of
> their developers over the time and join forces.


This is a possibility

> I've noticed a few things missing from vim that I use quite a bit (eg.
> > PGUP, PGDOWN), and I can probably get double buffering to work as I've
> > already done so with a few projects back in my college days.
>
> That would be a good place to start :-)
>
> We also have to take care of the bugs posted to the sf-bugtracker.


I'm going to take a look at double buffering, since the flickering is
driving me a little crazy.

I have setup most of the things I mentioned in the last mail (forums,
> SVN, commits-list, update of the website).
> See http://sf.net/projects/vimplugin   for details
>
> Spread the word!
>
> Sebastian.
>
> PS As a side note: please use inline quoting rather than top-posting.
> Thanks.


Noted. Different mailing lists have different rules.

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