vimcdoc-translate

[Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

Hello all,

I am trying to release 0.8.0. Because I added a syntax file
extension, I'd like to do some testing before a formal release. So
I'd need some/all of you to volunteer. I'll put files on sourceforge
to be downloaded by the testers. But first I'd like to know that there 
is ppl who wants to do this: there is no point for me to
prepare and upload these pre-releases when nobody will use them. So
put your hand up and cry for work :-)

What I would like to test is:
1. The installation program. On as many platform as possible. Please
try to test as root and as normal user.
2. See if syntax hilighting works for 注意, 备注, 译者 and the title.
3. Try random jumps to see that the hyper link works.
4. Anything else you can think of.

Thanks in advance.


lang2

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[James He <ic...@us...>]

No problem. 

Volunteer #1 registered. :)

on Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:07:04 +0000 
Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am trying to release 0.8.0. Because I added a syntax file
> extension, I'd like to do some testing before a formal release. So
> I'd need some/all of you to volunteer. I'll put files on sourceforge
> to be downloaded by the testers. But first I'd like to know that there 
> is ppl who wants to do this: there is no point for me to
> prepare and upload these pre-releases when nobody will use them. So
> put your hand up and cry for work :-)

Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

James He wrote:
> No problem. 
> 
> Volunteer #1 registered. :)

Thanks. I presume I'll get some more tester. I think we have BSD user
(wandys?), Windows (dasn?), etc. Will try to upload packages to gro.
I am already having some problem with the help_cn.vim file myself.

Stay tuned.


lang2


> 
> on Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:07:04 +0000 
> Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am trying to release 0.8.0. Because I added a syntax file
>>extension, I'd like to do some testing before a formal release. So
>>I'd need some/all of you to volunteer. I'll put files on sourceforge
>>to be downloaded by the testers. But first I'd like to know that there 
>>is ppl who wants to do this: there is no point for me to
>>prepare and upload these pre-releases when nobody will use them. So
>>put your hand up and cry for work :-)
> 
> 
> Best regards,

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

All,

I've uploaded two files to vcd.gro. A tarball for Unix and a exe
file for windows. Feel free to try them out and send in reports.
The URLs are:

http://vcd.gro.clinux.org/vimcdoc-0.7.9.tar.gz
http://vcd.gro.clinux.org/vimcdoc-0.7.9-setup.exe


Wenzhi Liang wrote:
> James He wrote:
> 
>>No problem. 
>>
>>Volunteer #1 registered. :)
> 
> 
> Thanks. I presume I'll get some more tester. I think we have BSD user
> (wandys?), Windows (dasn?), etc. Will try to upload packages to gro.
> I am already having some problem with the help_cn.vim file myself.
> 
> Stay tuned.
> 
> 
> lang2
> 
> 
> 
>>on Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:07:04 +0000 
>>Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>I am trying to release 0.8.0. Because I added a syntax file
>>>extension, I'd like to do some testing before a formal release. So
>>>I'd need some/all of you to volunteer. I'll put files on sourceforge
>>>to be downloaded by the testers. But first I'd like to know that there 
>>>is ppl who wants to do this: there is no point for me to
>>>prepare and upload these pre-releases when nobody will use them. So
>>>put your hand up and cry for work :-)
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[James He <ic...@us...>]

on Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:01:34 +0000 
Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:

> I've uploaded two files to vcd.gro. A tarball for Unix and a exe
> file for windows. Feel free to try them out and send in reports.

Tested on Windows & Debian Linux:

1. There is some problem with the text wrapping in the copyright info of
the Windows installer. Here it is:

<pre>
This software is provided 'as-is', without any expressed or
implied
warranty. In no event will the author be held liable for any
damages
arising from the use of this software.
</pre>

seems that it needs to reformat the LICENSE to a smaller textwidth.

2. Problem with seeing Chinese docs in Windows. I found that the installed
files went into "\Program Files\vim\vimfiles\doc" rather than "\Program
Files\vim\vim63b\doc", and they are all .cnx files. How am I supposed to
invoke them instead of old .txt help files from a :h command in Vim?

3. When install under Debian as a normal user, help_cn.vim can not be
installed.

$ sh vimcdoc.sh  -i
/home/icrazy/tmp/vimcdoc-0.7.9/doc
install -m 644 debugger.cnx /home/icrazy/.vim/doc/debugger.cnx
<snip>
install: stat‘help_cn.vim’失败: 没有那个文件或目录
Done.

"vimcdoc.sh" fixed and checked in.


Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[James He <ic...@us...>]

on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:32:10 +0800 
James He <ic...@us...> wrote:

> 2. Problem with seeing Chinese docs in Windows. I found that the installed
> files went into "\Program Files\vim\vimfiles\doc" rather than "\Program
> Files\vim\vim63b\doc", and they are all .cnx files. How am I supposed to
> invoke them instead of old .txt help files from a :h command in Vim?

I'm sorry. I didn't read the INSTALL file carefully. But after I 

	:set helplang=cn 

there is still some problems.

When I use :h, Vim prompts "抱歉，找不到帮助文件 D:\Program Files\vim\
vim63b\doc\help.txt"

I have to copy the directory 'doc' from D:\Program Files\vim\vimfiles to
D:\Program Files\vim\vim63b and make a copy of "help.cnx" and rename it
to "help.txt". Then the Vim help system works all right.

Would it be better that we install the 'doc' directory directly to
"\path\to\vim\" rather than "\path\to\vimfiles\" ?

Maybe there is some trick I do not know here. //shy


Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

James He wrote:
> on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:32:10 +0800 
> James He <ic...@us...> wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry. I didn't read the INSTALL file carefully. But after I 
> 
> 	:set helplang=cn 
> 
> there is still some problems.
> 
> When I use :h, Vim prompts "抱歉，找不到帮助文件 D:\Program Files\vim\
> vim63b\doc\help.txt"
> 
> I have to copy the directory 'doc' from D:\Program Files\vim\vimfiles to
> D:\Program Files\vim\vim63b and make a copy of "help.cnx" and rename it
> to "help.txt". Then the Vim help system works all right.
> 
> Would it be better that we install the 'doc' directory directly to
> "\path\to\vim\" rather than "\path\to\vimfiles\" ?

The reason to install .cnx into vimfiles is in case the user upgrade
his/her Vim version. Since vimfiles is in 'rtp' and it won't be
(by default) wiped out on uninstallation, having .cnx files there
will allow the user to use vimcdoc in the new version of vim without
doing anything. ':help vimfiles' show that it *is* in the 'rtp'
enviroment when Vim is running on windows. So can you check your
'rtp' and let me know?


lang2

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

Thanks James,

To all,
I hope more of you can join James and test out the pre-release. There
is no rush for getting it out of the door. But I'd like to make it
trouble free for the user. The more testing the better.

To James, please see below.

James He wrote:
> on Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:01:34 +0000 
> Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I've uploaded two files to vcd.gro. A tarball for Unix and a exe
>>file for windows. Feel free to try them out and send in reports.
> 
> 
> Tested on Windows & Debian Linux:
> 
> 1. There is some problem with the text wrapping in the copyright info of
> the Windows installer. Here it is:
> 
> <pre>
> This software is provided 'as-is', without any expressed or
> implied
> warranty. In no event will the author be held liable for any
> damages
> arising from the use of this software.
> </pre>
hmm. I have to do some testing on my machine to see it. But it
should be an easy fix. Btw, was you running on a very low
resolution?

> 
> seems that it needs to reformat the LICENSE to a smaller textwidth.
> 
> 2. Problem with seeing Chinese docs in Windows. I found that the installed
> files went into "\Program Files\vim\vimfiles\doc" rather than "\Program
> Files\vim\vim63b\doc", and they are all .cnx files. How am I supposed to
> invoke them instead of old .txt help files from a :h command in Vim?
You have to run vim 6.3+ to use the .cnx files. Are you running
vim6.2?

> 
> 3. When install under Debian as a normal user, help_cn.vim can not be
> installed.
> 
> $ sh vimcdoc.sh  -i
> /home/icrazy/tmp/vimcdoc-0.7.9/doc
> install -m 644 debugger.cnx /home/icrazy/.vim/doc/debugger.cnx
> <snip>
> install: stat‘help_cn.vim’失败: 没有那个文件或目录
> Done.
> 
> "vimcdoc.sh" fixed and checked in.
Thanks. And can you see 注意， 备注， 译者，etc hilighted after fixing
that problem?



lang2

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[James He <ic...@us...>]

on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:27:24 +0100 
Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:

> hmm. I have to do some testing on my machine to see it. But it
> should be an easy fix. Btw, was you running on a very low
> resolution?

No, I am running on a resolution of 1024 x 768.

> > seems that it needs to reformat the LICENSE to a smaller textwidth.

Just found that the same problem existed in the the installer of Vim 6.3. :)

> You have to run vim 6.3+ to use the .cnx files. Are you running
> vim6.2?

I *am* running Vim 6.3. Just find out what is wrong.

Mmust change the following in the _vimrc (which is copied from the
INSTALL file)

if version > 603
	set helplang=cn
endif  

to 

if version >= 603
	set helplang=cn
endif  

> > 3. When install under Debian as a normal user, help_cn.vim can not be
> > installed.
> Thanks. And can you see 注意， 备注， 译者，etc hilighted after fixing
> that problem?

Unfortunately, I don't see any difference before and after I auto
loading the help_cn.vim (I have made sure that this file is executed),
on both Windows and Debian.

Take a look at the screenshot in the attachment.

Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

> 
> Just found that the same problem existed in the the installer of Vim 6.3. :)

hmmm. Let me look into it.

> 
> if version > 603
> 	set helplang=cn
> endif  
> 
> to 
> 
> if version >= 603
> 	set helplang=cn
> endif  

Well spotted. fixed.

> 
> 
>>>3. When install under Debian as a normal user, help_cn.vim can not be
>>>installed.
>>
>>Thanks. And can you see 注意， 备注， 译者，etc hilighted after fixing
>>that problem?
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't see any difference before and after I auto
> loading the help_cn.vim (I have made sure that this file is executed),
> on both Windows and Debian.
It is the same thing I am seeing here and I think I know the cause of
it: our documents as well as help_cn.vim are in utf-8 encoding. When
we use vim in a Chinese enviroment, LANG is set to zh_CN or
something. Vim detects that and do encoding translation internally
to allow proper display of Chinese characters. But then it can't
match those patterns in help_cn.vim anymore. I changed encoding to
utf-8 and everything works fine. I don't know a fix for this yet.


lang2

[Vimcdoc-translate] unicode enviroment user?

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

Continue on the testing thread. Anybody using a Chinese unicode
enviroment? I.e. LANG=utf-xxx? I don't since Slackware doesn't
support that out of the box.


lang2

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] unicode enviroment user?

[James He <ic...@us...>]

on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:35:59 +0100 
Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:

> Continue on the testing thread. Anybody using a Chinese unicode
> enviroment? I.e. LANG=utf-xxx? I don't since Slackware doesn't
> support that out of the box.

I'm using zh_CN.GBK on my Debian box, never used utf-xxx :-(


Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] unicode enviroment user?

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

James He wrote:
> on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:35:59 +0100 
> Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Continue on the testing thread. Anybody using a Chinese unicode
>>enviroment? I.e. LANG=utf-xxx? I don't since Slackware doesn't
>>support that out of the box.
> 
> 
> I'm using zh_CN.GBK on my Debian box, never used utf-xxx :-(

That's OK. Althought Slackware disabled utf by default, I still
managed to set LANG to zh_CN.UTF-8 and it works OK.


lang2

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[James He <ic...@us...>]

on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:36:02 +0100 
Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:

> It is the same thing I am seeing here and I think I know the cause of
> it: our documents as well as help_cn.vim are in utf-8 encoding. When
> we use vim in a Chinese enviroment, LANG is set to zh_CN or
> something. Vim detects that and do encoding translation internally
> to allow proper display of Chinese characters. But then it can't
> match those patterns in help_cn.vim anymore. I changed encoding to
> utf-8 and everything works fine. I don't know a fix for this yet.

I can see that the help_cn.vim *is* utf8 encoded, but from my screenshot,
you can see the script doesn't work. I don't know why. :(

Can you send me a screenshot of the script's effect? Thx! :)

Best regards,
-- 
James He

Re: [Vimcdoc-translate] tester wanted

[Wenzhi L. <wen...@gm...>]

James He wrote:
> on Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:36:02 +0100 
> Wenzhi Liang <wen...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>It is the same thing I am seeing here and I think I know the cause of
>>it: our documents as well as help_cn.vim are in utf-8 encoding. When
>>we use vim in a Chinese enviroment, LANG is set to zh_CN or
>>something. Vim detects that and do encoding translation internally
>>to allow proper display of Chinese characters. But then it can't
>>match those patterns in help_cn.vim anymore. I changed encoding to
>>utf-8 and everything works fine. I don't know a fix for this yet.
> 
> 
> I can see that the help_cn.vim *is* utf8 encoded, but from my screenshot,
> you can see the script doesn't work. I don't know why. :(
> 
> Can you send me a screenshot of the script's effect? Thx! :)
I've checked in another version of help_cn.vim which supposedly would
fix the problem. Can you do an update and overwrite the old
help_cn.vim with the new one and then try again. You should see
译者，注意，备注 hilighted. Try usr_41.txt as it has quite a few 注意.
It doesn't seem to work all the time though.


lang2