From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-19 14:02:40
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I just did some web search for making our pdf version of the User Manual, only to find this: http://www.uplinux.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=10090&sid=W2hJq537 You wont believe this but somebody just had already done the translation of the User Manual before (or while?) we were doing all this stuff. It's just.. totally..amazingly incredible... The timestamp showed in that pdf is 2003/04/16. I checked the News section on our vimcdoc site and found that we finished the User part at 2003/05/29. Not sure whether s/he ever incorporated (some of) our works or s/he just did all the stuff all by her/himself. Took a glance at it. The translation, imho, seems more polished and feels smoother...than ours. But it's just less known than our works and i dunno when the author released his/her doc to public. Should have been much greater if we had known this earlier and worked together with him/her. So.. too late now? No? Invite him/her to join us? Any idea? Regards, -- Alecs K. |
From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-20 02:21:25
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on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:02:15 +0800 "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> wrote: > I just did some web search for making our pdf version of the User > Manual, only to find this: > > http://www.uplinux.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=10090&sid=W2hJq537 Seems like a stupid forum that requires registering an ID to download this. > > You wont believe this but somebody just had already done the translation > of the User Manual before (or while?) we were doing all this stuff. It's > just.. totally..amazingly incredible... Duplicate work. :-( > So.. too late now? No? Invite him/her to join us? Maybe it is a good idea, if we can find him/her. :-) Best regards, -- James He |
From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-23 06:49:43
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:22:37 +0800 James He <ic...@us...> wrote: > > http://www.uplinux.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=10090&sid=W2hJq537 > Seems like a stupid forum that requires registering an ID to download > this. Uploaded to VCD site now: http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/usrmanual.pdf |
From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-24 16:57:55
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:02:15 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > I just did some web search for making our pdf version of the User > Manual, only to find this: > > http://www.uplinux.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=10090&sid=W2hJq537 > > You wont believe this but somebody just had already done the translation > of the User Manual before (or while?) we were doing all this stuff. It's > just.. totally..amazingly incredible... Amazing indeed. And admirable. We accumulated 10 odd people and spent over 12 month for just about the same thing and maybe in some area, worse. However, given the number of people in China, this is not totally suprising. I wouldn't be suprised if there are more of this kinda effor somewhere. But going this far takes a lot of effort and is truely respectable. We would have been much better if we knew this earlier (much ealier). There is one thing that I think we did right: openess. Let people know we are doing it and let people join us (hopefully). I'd say it is too late now for the two thing to be incorporated. This isn't the same as we did in the beginning of the project when we merged with ken_lee (thanks again to wandys). Actually, I more or less think this is normal and they scratch different itch. Our stuff can be used as online help and we have more coverage (much more actually). I think we did a greate job to do that. Of course we can make pdf version of the user manual as well but it would still be feeding a different need. One greate thing about Linux and open source is choice. Then let there be choice for Vim document translation as well. Anyway, I'd say we continue whatever we are doing and do it well. Let there be debate if needed. ps. If most of us agree with me, there is no need to host this file (no offense, it is a very good file) on our site. lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Sent 0.000002 seconds ago |
From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-25 03:20:20
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:52:22 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > Amazing indeed. And admirable. We accumulated 10 odd people and spent > over > 12 month for just about the same thing and maybe in some area, worse. Well, some guy joined and has since kept silient. Active members are about 5 ppl. > There > is one thing that I think we did right: openess. Let people know we > are doing it and let people join us (hopefully). Yes. We've been so open rite from the start. > Our stuff can be > used as online help and we have more coverage (much more actually). I > think we did a greate job to do that. So keep going. =) > ps. If most of us agree with me, there is no need to host this file > (no offense, it is a very good file) on our site. okay. -- Alecs K. |