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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-22 10:54:47
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Hi thecon, Thanks for the interest. I've added you to the developer list on sourceforge. Next thing you might want to do is to subscribe to our mailing list and you are all set to work :-). The other PM wandys has recently set up a WiKi page on http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn, which I don't really know how to use yet. The following are more question from my self to wandys: 1. Is there a way to synchronize the CVS and WiKi pages automatically? From both sides? 2. On the Wiki page, is there a way to identify who made what changes? Bear with me if they sound silly. Last, please join me to welcome the new member! lang2 On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:35:31 +0800, co...@bj... said: > hello, > > i'm try to join the vim docs translate, and i'v registed a sourceforge > id as > thecon. > -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-23 06:32:41
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:44:01 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > Hi thecon, > > Thanks for the interest. I've added you to the developer list > on sourceforge. Next thing you might want to do is to subscribe > to our mailing list and you are all set to work :-). Welcome aboard. =) > 1. Is there a way to synchronize the CVS and WiKi pages automatically? > From both sides? No. > 2. On the Wiki page, is there a way to identify who made what changes? There are 'PageInfo' and 'PageHistory' links on every wiki page. Besides, another two useful links: http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentChanges http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentEdits As for 'who', you can 'sign in' before you start to edit. Well, wiki is a thing meant to be open. And i make our wiki as open as possible. Anonymous edit allowed everywhere. CVS remains as the authortive committing method. 'Static' html versions also remain as the authortive translating results and can be synced automatically from cvs as usual: http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/doc/help.html http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/doc/usr_toc.html Wiki is for casual/anonymous contribution, to attract more ppl to get interested and hopefully join in. So that it's supposed to get updated more often than cvs. With all that said, i dont think it neccessary to sync b/w cvs and wiki. We can incorporate changes from wiki, after reviewing and polishing them, to our cvs repository [every week/month, or when we are about to make a release (beta?) ]. FYI, our wiki has since been working pretty fine. Some guy has translated 'if_perl.txt' and another guy has started to work on 'visual.txt'. Not 'small changes', huh? So we can invite them to join in as core translators (with cvs committing permisson). Regards, |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-24 16:59:31
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:32:28 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > > > 1. Is there a way to synchronize the CVS and WiKi pages automatically? > > From both sides? > > No. :-( > As for 'who', you can 'sign in' before you start to edit. Is anybody doing this? Do translators have to register again? > > Well, wiki is a thing meant to be open. And i make our wiki as open as > possible. Anonymous edit allowed everywhere. Sounds like you are planning to use wiki as a scratch pad or something. So there is actually no need to keep the wiki pages synchronized with CVS. The official documents would be whatever in the CVS and the generated html version. Am I getting the wrong idea? > > FYI, our wiki has since been working pretty fine. Some guy has > translated 'if_perl.txt' and another guy has started to work > on 'visual.txt'. Not 'small changes', huh? So we can invite them to join > in as core translators (with cvs committing permisson). Fantasitic! Do we know who they are? (Maybe they are one of us?) One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? Rgds, lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-25 03:14:16
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:57:52 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > As for 'who', you can 'sign in' before you start to edit. > > Is anybody doing this? Do translators have to register again? No, you dont have to. > > > > > Well, wiki is a thing meant to be open. And i make our wiki as open > > as possible. Anonymous edit allowed everywhere. > Sounds like you are planning to use wiki as a scratch pad or > something. So there is actually no need to keep the wiki pages > synchronized with CVS. The official documents would be whatever in the > CVS and the generated > html version. Exactly. > > > > > FYI, our wiki has since been working pretty fine. Some guy has > > translated 'if_perl.txt' and another guy has started to work > > on 'visual.txt'. Not 'small changes', huh? So we can invite them to > > join in as core translators (with cvs committing permisson). > Fantasitic! Do we know who they are? (Maybe they are one of us?) They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think they are one of us _yet_. :-) > One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about > changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? > Unfortunately, no. http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/PageChangeNotification -- Alecs K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 10:12:12
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> > They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think they > are one of us _yet_. :-) Shall we ask them to join us or is it too early? You see without automatic notification, it is hard to judge how active they are. I didn't even know they exist if not for you to tell me. This is unfortunate really. I think having to go to the webpage to check everthing out is kinda pain and less effective. ps. RSS is greate. Maybe we will wait until they finish those documents. I think WiKi is still handy thoug right because it is 'open'. We can do review and polishing right there. lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-26 01:01:23
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:08:55 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > > > They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think > > they are one of us _yet_. :-) > > Shall we ask them to join us or is it too early? Um.. Wait and see if they are as active. Anyway, they can actively join us if they want to devote more. >You see without > automatic > notification, it is hard to judge how active they are. I didn't even > know they exist if not for you to tell me. This is unfortunate really. > I think having to go to the webpage to check everthing out is kinda > pain and less effective. A little bit. But dont have to check much often. > ps. RSS is greate. Maybe we will wait until > they finish those documents. I think WiKi is still handy thoug right > because it is 'open'. We can do review and polishing right there. > Yes. That's what it's meant to be. -- Alecs K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 10:21:44
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> > > One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about > > changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? > > > > Unfortunately, no. > http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/PageChangeNotification hmmmm I just found out that this page http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentChanges has a 'RSS' link. Is there a way we can make use of this? How does that link get setup wandys? lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-26 01:01:24
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:21:43 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > hmmmm I just found out that this page > http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentChanges > has a 'RSS' link. Is there a way we can make use of this? ' Not that i know of. >How does that link get setup wandys? It's all set up automatically by the wiki itself.. -- Alecs K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-26 09:07:21
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:01:06 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > > >How does that link get setup wandys? > > It's all set up automatically by the wiki itself.. hmmmm. All I got from that link is garbage, which should be a XML file. :( lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-22 20:36:42
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on Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:44:01 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > Last, please join me to welcome the new member! Welcome co...@bj... ! ^__^ Best regards, -- James He |
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