Re: [Vim-latex-devel] German quotation marks and `

[Bernhard W. <ber...@gm...>]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 at 11:53 (-0500), Benji Fisher wrote:
> Bernhard Walle wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 20:35 (-0800), Srinath Avadhanula wrote:
> >>On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> >>
> >>>in german.sty the correct quotation marks are "` and "' (instead of ``
> >>>and ''). But if I type "`gut"' for example it's expanded to
> >>>"\gammaut. Is there any solution for this?
> >>>
> >>
> >>I've fixed this problem in the latest version. Also, in the present
> >>version, if \usepackage{german} is detected, then " expands to "` or '"
> >>depending on whether its opening or closing. As of now, editing both
> >>german and english files in the same vim session is not supported, but
> >>that will come soon...
> >
> >It does not work here with the latest version from the download page.
> >And, please recognize also \usepackage{ngerman} (it's the same as german
> >but with the new hypenation rules).
> >
> >Thanks.
> 
>      I fixed the fix (I hope).  It was inserting '" instead of "', 
> right?  

No, it was insertig ``''. And "`e still expands to "`epsilon. I updated
to the most recent version 
(http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/download/latexSuite.tar.gz) and I have
no user-configuration file.


> If you are willing to get the latest (minutes-old) version from 
> CVS, I would appreciate further testing.  Otherwise, wait unitl the next 
> release.  If there is still a problem, please give a little more detail 
> than in your last note.  This version also switches between ``English 
> quotes'' and "`German quotes"' if you switch between two files, one with 
> \usepackage{german} and one without.

The Sourceforge CVS server seems to be down so I cannot do this. Maybe
next days.

>      I hope someone else will add support for the ngerman package.  It 
> is probably easy, but I have not dealt with packages before.

There's no difference between ngerman and german. And you might also
consider \usepackage[ngerman]{babel} but that's less important.

> 
> >>Note that `g will still expand to \gamma (and similarly for other
> >>english alphabets) if its not preceded by ", ` or \.  This is for typing
> >>greek letters. You cannot completeley disable this feature with an
> >>option right now. In the future, I'll make this an option... If you
> >>really want to disable such expansions, you'll need to comment out lines
> >>96-131 of ftplugin/latex-suite/main.vim
> >
> >
> >The feature is great but it should work with "`..."'. I think it would
> >also be good to get a '"' by typing " twice as like in XEmacs if this is
> >possible but it's not very important.
> 
>      You can now get "`german"' easily.  We recently made it so that 
> typing "" will insert "`"'<++> with the cursor inside the quotation 
> marks.  This is for those who are afraid of getting unbalanced quotes; 
> the same thing works for () and so on.  You can then type <C-J> to go to 
> the <++> marker.  The general vim method for inserting a character 
> without any mappings is to precede it with <C-V>, so if you want a " 
> character, and it is not one of the situations (after \ or in math mode) 
> that we have already thought of, you can use <C-V>".

Thanks. I didn't know this.

Regards,
Bernhard