Re: [Vim-latex-devel] German quotation marks and `

[Benji F. <be...@me...>]

Bernhard Walle wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 20:35 (-0800), Srinath Avadhanula wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Bernhard Walle wrote:
>>
>>
>>>in german.sty the correct quotation marks are "` and "' (instead of ``
>>>and ''). But if I type "`gut"' for example it's expanded to
>>>"\gammaut. Is there any solution for this?
>>>
>>
>>I've fixed this problem in the latest version. Also, in the present
>>version, if \usepackage{german} is detected, then " expands to "` or '"
>>depending on whether its opening or closing. As of now, editing both
>>german and english files in the same vim session is not supported, but
>>that will come soon...
> 
> It does not work here with the latest version from the download page.
> And, please recognize also \usepackage{ngerman} (it's the same as german
> but with the new hypenation rules).
> 
> Thanks.

      I fixed the fix (I hope).  It was inserting '" instead of "', 
right?  If you are willing to get the latest (minutes-old) version from 
CVS, I would appreciate further testing.  Otherwise, wait unitl the next 
release.  If there is still a problem, please give a little more detail 
than in your last note.  This version also switches between ``English 
quotes'' and "`German quotes"' if you switch between two files, one with 
\usepackage{german} and one without.

      I hope someone else will add support for the ngerman package.  It 
is probably easy, but I have not dealt with packages before.

>>Note that `g will still expand to \gamma (and similarly for other
>>english alphabets) if its not preceded by ", ` or \.  This is for typing
>>greek letters. You cannot completeley disable this feature with an
>>option right now. In the future, I'll make this an option... If you
>>really want to disable such expansions, you'll need to comment out lines
>>96-131 of ftplugin/latex-suite/main.vim
> 
> 
> The feature is great but it should work with "`..."'. I think it would
> also be good to get a '"' by typing " twice as like in XEmacs if this is
> possible but it's not very important.

      You can now get "`german"' easily.  We recently made it so that 
typing "" will insert "`"'<++> with the cursor inside the quotation 
marks.  This is for those who are afraid of getting unbalanced quotes; 
the same thing works for () and so on.  You can then type <C-J> to go to 
the <++> marker.  The general vim method for inserting a character 
without any mappings is to precede it with <C-V>, so if you want a " 
character, and it is not one of the situations (after \ or in math mode) 
that we have already thought of, you can use <C-V>".

HTH					--Benji Fisher