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From: Simon Q. <sim...@gm...> - 2011-02-22 15:27:53
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Hello Gerd,
I think, your ideas are very good, and since I use/would like to use F9
much more often, I welcome improvement!
Just to make sure to understand from the users view: instead of typing
"\eqref{eq<F9>" and then looking through the list to find the right label
(e.g. "eq:maxwell"), you type the number "(2.4)<F9>" (which has label
"eq:maxwell" before compilation into the aux-file) and it is expanded
automatically into "\eqref{eq:maxwell}".
As far as I see, if you want to ref an equation this way, you have to do
the compilation first, and the numbers probably will change after each
compilation. In case of a replacement, this means you need to have:
1) the up-to-date pdf/dvi file open all the time and
2) knowledge of the numbers, even if they are far away in the document.
For this reasons I would _strongly_ prefer to be able to choose which way
to use at all times.
Your method is very convenient, nonetheless and I would very much like to
use it!
All the best,
Simon
Gerd Wachsmuth wrote:
>> I can see how someone editing a single
>> document would often want to complete both ways.
> In which situation you need to stick to the old tex-based completion? I
> used my aux-based completion since one or two months and I never missed
> the tex-based completion.
>
> The only advantage of the tex-based completion is, that you see some
> neighbourhood (one line before or after) of the \label, but mostly this
> contained no information for me.
>
>
>>> Typing (3.4)<F9> results in \eqref{eq:a_beautiful_equation}
>>
>> [ Note: The need for \eqref can be mitigated with varioref's
>> \labelformat and/or hyperref's \autoref. There is absolutely no reason
>> that equations need to be handled differently within the main LaTeX
>> content than any other reference. ]
>>
>>> Moreover, I also works for theorems etc. Typing theorem.4.5 results in
>>> \autoref{thm:a_nice_theorem}
>>
>> I'm a little confused (I haven't looked at the script) about how the
>> completer picks the \*ref you want. Some people are going to use the
>> \*refs provided by the cleveref package. Others (like me) are going to
>> use \autoref nearly everywhere but other variants (\Autoref) in some
>> places and \ref in some other cases (after "and", for example), and I
>> would never ever use \eqref. How could I configure?
> Currently, this can't be customized, but it is surely possible.
>
>> I also am confused about using "theorem.4.5" some places and "(3.4)"
>> other places.
> For referencing equations you type (equation.number). This does work also
> with (A.1) or (12.23c).
>
> For referencing something which is not an equation you type
> latex-counter-name.number, e.g. section.2 or subsection.2.12,...
>
>> For one, how is the average user going to know for sure
>> exactly which AUX name to use (thm.4.5 vs theorem.4.5)?
> You have to use the name of the latex counter.
>
>> And why the different handling of equations?
> Because I can type (2.2) faster than equation.2.2.
>
>> Furthermore, I think I would much rather type...
>>
>> \autoref{theorem.4.5<F9>}
>>
>> and have that replaced with
>>
>> \autoref{thm:a_nice_theorem}
> This does work.
>
>
> Gerd
>
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