vectorlinux-devel

[Vectorlinux-devel] The graphical installer: getting started

[<ea...@gm...>]

Well, I've trying to get myself familiar with the installer's foundations,
layed down by Joe1962.
So far I've only done a few trivial things like change button names to
something meaningful and added Terabyte support in the AutoUnits function -
had to look up the exact number of bytes on wikipedia ;).

So, where to go from here?

The first thing I though about was the number of installation modes: do we
need 3?
How should Semi-auto differ from the Advanced option? Both already lead to
the exact same partitioning screen, with all the exact same options.
Maybe just Automatic and Advanced would suffice?

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] The graphical installer: getting started

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 8/4/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> Well, I've trying to get myself familiar with the installer's foundations=
,
> layed down by Joe1962.
> So far I've only done a few trivial things like change button names to
> something meaningful and added Terabyte support in the AutoUnits function=
 -
> had to look up the exact number of bytes on wikipedia ;).
>

Cool!

>
> So, where to go from here?
>
> The first thing I though about was the number of installation modes: do w=
e
> need 3?
> How should Semi-auto differ from the Advanced option? Both already lead t=
o
> the exact same partitioning screen, with all the exact same options.
> Maybe just Automatic and Advanced would suffice?

Initially, Semi-auto was a way to do part of the process by hand and
part automatically. As I laid out the work flow however, it became
sort of redundant, since in Advanced mode, you can basically do as
much as you need by hand, and as much as you want in assisted mode. I
believe I had already posted here at some point about loosing the
extra mode. These early work flow graphs might help you, if you
haven't seen them yet:

http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Full-automatic.png
http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Advanced.png

Regards,
Joe1962

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] The graphical installer: getting started

[<ea...@gm...>]

On 04/08/07, Jose J. Rodriguez <jo...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On 8/4/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > So, where to go from here?
> >
> > The first thing I though about was the number of installation modes: do
> we
> > need 3?
> > How should Semi-auto differ from the Advanced option? Both already lead
> to
> > the exact same partitioning screen, with all the exact same options.
> > Maybe just Automatic and Advanced would suffice?
>
> Initially, Semi-auto was a way to do part of the process by hand and
> part automatically. As I laid out the work flow however, it became
> sort of redundant, since in Advanced mode, you can basically do as
> much as you need by hand, and as much as you want in assisted mode. I
> believe I had already posted here at some point about loosing the
> extra mode. These early work flow graphs might help you, if you
> haven't seen them yet:
>
> http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Full-automatic.png
> http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Advanced.png
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962



Great! I remember having seen those diagrams before, just couldn't remember
where they were hosted.

-About the project hosting:
Should we be working with branches by now in order to have trunk as a
"safe/official" source and separate branch(s) that we can use as sandbox(s)
and create as much havoc as wish there? ;)
I'd really like to try to go ahead and work on the auto-installation option=
,
but don't want to interfere (or be interfered with ;)) anything someone els=
e
may be doing at the same time.

-About the installer layout:
How much do we have to keep to the original design? (in the IRC room,
Moe-lnx had suggested "Back" and "Next" buttons instead of the buttons at
the top).

Cheers,

Eug=E9ne

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] The graphical installer: getting started

[M0E L. <m0...@gm...>]

I might also add that the the buttons work or course, and I hope I
dont sound like like I want to make this look like some brown distro's
installer, I just think it'd be a better to keep it as
straight-forward as possible.

But again, this is a dilemma in my head, because while that makes it
easy to understand, it may make it harder to offer many choices, and
we all know VL is all about choice.

Just a thought

M0E

On 8/6/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> On 04/08/07, Jose J. Rodriguez <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> > On 8/4/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> > >
> > > So, where to go from here?
> > >
> > > The first thing I though about was the number of installation modes: =
do
> we
> > > need 3?
> > > How should Semi-auto differ from the Advanced option? Both already le=
ad
> to
> > > the exact same partitioning screen, with all the exact same options.
> > > Maybe just Automatic and Advanced would suffice?
> >
> > Initially, Semi-auto was a way to do part of the process by hand and
> > part automatically. As I laid out the work flow however, it became
> > sort of redundant, since in Advanced mode, you can basically do as
> > much as you need by hand, and as much as you want in assisted mode. I
> > believe I had already posted here at some point about loosing the
> > extra mode. These early work flow graphs might help you, if you
> > haven't seen them yet:
> >
> >
> http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Full-automatic.png
> >
> http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Advanced.png
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joe1962
>
>
> Great! I remember having seen those diagrams before, just couldn't rememb=
er
> where they were hosted.
>
> -About the project hosting:
> Should we be working with branches by now in order to have trunk as a
> "safe/official" source and separate branch(s) that we can use as sandbox(=
s)
> and create as much havoc as wish there? ;)
> I'd really like to try to go ahead and work on the auto-installation opti=
on,
> but don't want to interfere (or be interfered with ;)) anything someone e=
lse
> may be doing at the same time.
>
> -About the installer layout:
> How much do we have to keep to the original design? (in the IRC room,
> Moe-lnx had suggested "Back" and "Next" buttons instead of the buttons at
> the top).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eug=E9ne
>
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] The graphical installer: getting started

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 8/6/07, M0E Lnx <m0...@gm...> wrote:
> I might also add that the the buttons work or course, and I hope I
> dont sound like like I want to make this look like some brown distro's
> installer, I just think it'd be a better to keep it as
> straight-forward as possible.
>

IMO, and FWIW, the current concept makes it both distinctive and more
funtional. You should be able to go back to whichever step you
need/want (as far as possible, of course, we need to grey out the
buttons that can't be returned to) and review your choices, without
having to click several times on "Back".

>
> But again, this is a dilemma in my head, because while that makes it
> easy to understand, it may make it harder to offer many choices, and
> we all know VL is all about choice.
>
> Just a thought
>
> M0E
>
> On 8/6/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> > On 04/08/07, Jose J. Rodriguez <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> > > On 8/4/07, Eug=E9ne Suter <ea...@gm...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, where to go from here?
> > > >
> > > > The first thing I though about was the number of installation modes=
: do
> > we
> > > > need 3?
> > > > How should Semi-auto differ from the Advanced option? Both already =
lead
> > to
> > > > the exact same partitioning screen, with all the exact same options=
.
> > > > Maybe just Automatic and Advanced would suffice?
> > >
> > > Initially, Semi-auto was a way to do part of the process by hand and
> > > part automatically. As I laid out the work flow however, it became
> > > sort of redundant, since in Advanced mode, you can basically do as
> > > much as you need by hand, and as much as you want in assisted mode. I
> > > believe I had already posted here at some point about loosing the
> > > extra mode. These early work flow graphs might help you, if you
> > > haven't seen them yet:
> > >
> > >
> > http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Full-automatic.p=
ng
> > >
> > http://jjrweb.byethost.com/vl/dev/new-installer/images/Advanced.png
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Joe1962
> >
> >
> > Great! I remember having seen those diagrams before, just couldn't reme=
mber
> > where they were hosted.
> >
> > -About the project hosting:
> > Should we be working with branches by now in order to have trunk as a
> > "safe/official" source and separate branch(s) that we can use as sandbo=
x(s)
> > and create as much havoc as wish there? ;)
> >

Sounds like a plan to me... :)

> >
> > I'd really like to try to go ahead and work on the auto-installation op=
tion,
> > but don't want to interfere (or be interfered with ;)) anything someone=
 else
> > may be doing at the same time.
> >
> > -About the installer layout:
> > How much do we have to keep to the original design? (in the IRC room,
> > Moe-lnx had suggested "Back" and "Next" buttons instead of the buttons =
at
> > the top).
> >

Regards,
Joe1962