From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2006-04-25 21:17:19
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As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer. One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to autopartition. If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be appreciated. We have at least 2 scenarios to work from. 1 being take over HD and use whole thing 2 Use free space on HD We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we would make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their hands. Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to allocat= e for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of space available, minimum safe size for /, and so on Thanks, Uel Archuletta |
From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 05:36:18
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Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really not needed. I thought at first we could do something like this if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% to /home if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to /home But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort to code a solution? what do you all think? thanks, Uel On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote: > > As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer. > One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to > autopartition. > If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be > appreciated. > We have at least 2 scenarios to work from. > 1 being take over HD and use whole thing > 2 Use free space on HD > We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we would > make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their hands. > > Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to > allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of space > available, minimum safe size for /, and so on > > Thanks, > Uel Archuletta > > |
From: Oleg <ya...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 20:41:28
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> Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion > that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really > not needed. [snip] > what do you all think? I think that autopartitioning may not add separate /home, I am even not sure that fully automatic partitioning is necessary. I'd prefer to see an easy dialog for configuring /home: - checkbox for separate/common partition - slider for percent of /home with safe boundaries. The original values for checkbox and slider may be chosen automatically by some tricky algorithm, though. |
From: Vanger <fa...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 06:45:18
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I think, alghorythm must be more intelligent. Let's take the whole free space on hdd as A. Then, we have to take the size of maximum install (base + all included packages). Let it be X mbs. But X+1000 is better to use as "minimal" (uncompressed kernel, some additional programs and so on) The swap (Y) must be at first twice as RAM is, but no more then 550 Mbs. Why so? Many people have 512Mbs in their computers and they would like to play with suspend and so on. So we have to have default swap more, then average amount of memory is. The home partition (Z) is to take everything, that left. But not less then 500Mbs. So Z =3D A-X-Y-1000. If there is enough place - it's cool. But what is not? And now the exeptions start. I think, there should be three parameters - "User" (the priority is to get more space on /home), "Developer" (the priority is to /) and "Balanced" (both). The swap space is reduced to 256 and we look on a left free space. Then, if "User" selected, X =3D optimum install (base plus some pacakges+200), Y=3D256. Z =3D A-X-Y. If "Dev" selected, Y=3D256, X =3D (base plus all included packages) + (A-X-Y)/4*3. And Z =3D (A-X-Y)/4. If "Balanced" selected, Y=3D256, X =3D optimum install (base plus some pacakges+200)+ (A-X-Y)/2, Z=3D (A-X-Y)/2 |
From: Vanger <fa...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 11:56:43
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And, I've forgot, if there is lesser, then X+200 Mbs - then we'll just say - "Hey, we don't have enough space to dare autopartition. You'll have to do it yourself. Minimal for / is $MIN_BASE" |
From: Tony B. <tb...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 12:38:25
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The filesystem without home should require no more than about 5 gig and the rest should be given to home. If they choose autopartitioning then they do not need a separate /home partition. I would leave a separate /home partition for users that do their own partitioning and know what they are doing. Hell, I still use only 1 partition for all of / anyway. Never did like the idea of limiting either by having separate partitions. 512M swap and the rest to / - make it easy since they are also taking the easy way out. Regards, Tony On 4/27/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote: > > Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion > that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really > not needed. > > I thought at first we could do something like this > if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% to > /home > if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to > /home > > But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort to > code a solution? > > what do you all think? > > thanks, > > Uel > > > On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote: > > > > As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer. > > One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to > > autopartition. > > If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be > > appreciated. > > We have at least 2 scenarios to work from. > > 1 being take over HD and use whole thing > > 2 Use free space on HD > > We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we woul= d > > make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their hands. > > > > Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to > > allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of space > > available, minimum safe size for /, and so on > > > > Thanks, > > Uel Archuletta > > > > > |
From: Sriram D. <sri...@gm...> - 2006-04-27 22:10:44
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having a seperate home partition has helped me a lot in upgrading from previous versions of VL . If we want to encourage users to upgrade to the newest VL next year and later .. with least effort on their part.. We can make it easy and fairly automatic to upgrade by keeping their home partition independent. during a new install. Also i think it is much easier to backup a seperate partition as opposed to a part of a big one. not sure though As for the dev option, i really like the idea. so now when people install V= L if the see the "setup my machien for vectelopment" option , it might well encourage them to read up on vectelopment and may be becoem devs / testers = / packager etc... really good idea:) ; cheers ram On 4/27/06, Tony Brijeski < tb...@gm...> wrote: > > The filesystem without home should require no more than about 5 gig and > the rest should be given to home. If they choose autopartitioning then t= hey > do not need a separate /home partition. I would leave a separate /home > partition for users that do their own partitioning and know what they are > doing. > > Hell, I still use only 1 partition for all of / anyway. Never did like > the idea of limiting either by having separate partitions. > > 512M swap and the rest to / - make it easy since they are also taking the > easy way out. > > Regards, > Tony > > > > On 4/27/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm... > wrote: > > > > Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the > > opinion that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home= is > > really not needed. > > > > I thought at first we could do something like this > > if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% = to > > /home > > if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to > > /home > > > > But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort > > to code a solution? > > > > what do you all think? > > > > thanks, > > > > Uel > > > > > > On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm... > wrote: > > > > > > As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer. > > > One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to > > > autopartition. > > > If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be > > > appreciated. > > > We have at least 2 scenarios to work from. > > > 1 being take over HD and use whole thing > > > 2 Use free space on HD > > > We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we > > > would make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their h= ands. > > > > > > Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to > > > allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of spac= e > > > available, minimum safe size for /, and so on > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Uel Archuletta > > > > > > > > > |