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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Sorry, I'm sort of gone :(

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

UKB,

It is sad news whenever anyone has to leave us. I hope when your life slows
down you can find your way back.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

On 5/15/06, Jose J. Rodriguez <jo...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On 5/15/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> > I tried to send this earlier today but it seems it didn=B4t make it to =
the
> > list (at least I didn=B4t get the copy) and I can=B4t find the Club Vec
> section
> > in the forum anymore, so I am giving it a nother try.
> > Excuse me if you got it already.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message : ------------
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >  Today I visited the forum for the first time in around 6 weeks.
> >  I've been too busy with other not very happy things and hoping the
> > situation would improve at some point, but it is just getting worse, so
> I
> > guess it's time to face that I no longer have what it takes to be a
> active
> > contributor to VL.
> >
> >
> >  IF I can, I would like to render a couple of 3D texts so you have them
> for
> > the next releases (i.e. numerical characters from 0 to 9).
> >
> >  I don't know if I will be able to do any more progress with the joomla
> CMS,
> > if the project is still of interest for you.
> >
> >  Believe me, this is very sad for me. As I said many time before, VL wa=
s
> not
> > the first distro I tried, it was the first one that really worked for m=
e
> > (and still does) so giving something back was really a joy.
> >
> >  Little as it might be, I will pop up as much as I can.
> >  Thanks for your patience and keep up the excellent work, you're great.
> >
> >  Best regards.
> >  UKB.
> >
> >
>
> Yes UK, both your posts made it. I was very sorry to read the first
> earlier this afternoon, but didn't have time to answer till now. Your
> work will really be missed, but do drop in when you can.
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
>
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Sorry, I'm sort of gone :(

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 5/15/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> I tried to send this earlier today but it seems it didn=B4t make it to th=
e
> list (at least I didn=B4t get the copy) and I can=B4t find the Club Vec s=
ection
> in the forum anymore, so I am giving it a nother try.
> Excuse me if you got it already.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message : ------------
>
>
> Hi guys,
>  Today I visited the forum for the first time in around 6 weeks.
>  I've been too busy with other not very happy things and hoping the
> situation would improve at some point, but it is just getting worse, so I
> guess it's time to face that I no longer have what it takes to be a activ=
e
> contributor to VL.
>
>
>  IF I can, I would like to render a couple of 3D texts so you have them f=
or
> the next releases (i.e. numerical characters from 0 to 9).
>
>  I don't know if I will be able to do any more progress with the joomla C=
MS,
> if the project is still of interest for you.
>
>  Believe me, this is very sad for me. As I said many time before, VL was =
not
> the first distro I tried, it was the first one that really worked for me
> (and still does) so giving something back was really a joy.
>
>  Little as it might be, I will pop up as much as I can.
>  Thanks for your patience and keep up the excellent work, you're great.
>
>  Best regards.
>  UKB.
>
>

Yes UK, both your posts made it. I was very sorry to read the first
earlier this afternoon, but didn't have time to answer till now. Your
work will really be missed, but do drop in when you can.

Regards,
Joe1962

[Vectorlinux-devel] Sorry, I'm sort of gone :(

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

I tried to send this earlier today but it seems it didn=B4t make it to the
list (at least I didn=B4t get the copy) and I can=B4t find the Club Vec sec=
tion
in the forum anymore, so I am giving it a nother try.
Excuse me if you got it already.

---------- Forwarded message : ------------

Hi guys,
Today I visited the forum for the first time in around 6 weeks.
I've been too busy with other not very happy things and hoping the situatio=
n
would improve at some point, but it is just getting worse, so I guess it's
time to face that I no longer have what it takes to be a active contributor
to VL.

IF I can, I would like to render a couple of 3D texts so you have them for
the next releases (i.e. numerical characters from 0 to 9).

I don't know if I will be able to do any more progress with the joomla CMS,
if the project is still of interest for you.

Believe me, this is very sad for me. As I said many time before, VL was not
the first distro I tried, it was the first one that really worked for me
(and still does) so giving something back was really a joy.

Little as it might be, I will pop up as much as I can.
Thanks for your patience and keep up the excellent work, you're great.

Best regards.
UKB.

[Vectorlinux-devel] Sorry, I'm sort of gone :(

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

Hi guys,
Today I visited the forum for the first time in around 6 weeks.
I've been too busy with other not very happy things and hoping the situatio=
n
would improve at some point, but I guess it's time to face that I no longer
have what it takes to be a active contributor to VL.

IF I can, I would like to render a couple of 3D texts so you have them for
the next releases (i.e. numerical characters from 0 to 9).

I don't know if I will be able to do any more progress with the joomla CMS,
if the project is still of interest for you.

Believe me, this is very sad for me. As I said many time before, VL was not
the first distro I tried, it was the first one that really worked for me
(and still does) so giving something back was really a joy.

Little as it might be, I will pop up as much as I can.
Thanks for your patience and keep up the excellent work, you're great.

Best regards.
UKB.

[Vectorlinux-devel] Some More Praise for VL

[John B <joh...@gm...>]

I received a PM from voyager13b, who apparently has installed VL on
his company's network and had issues with printing to an HP printer on
his network. The issue was solved with the (then) latest hplip
package. At any rate, I want to share voyager's message with all of
you to encourage us to keep on.

Best,
John

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

JohnB,

Sorry for the delay, but I was sent to a new company site that is
currently under construction, and did not have any internet access
during my stay. Back to your question, I am a genuine, and very
enthusiastic Vector Linux fan. Simply stated, Vector worked for me,
and even though I tried many distros in our Business center over time,
Vector got the job done with the hardware on hand, and suited the very
large user base that makes use of the facility without complaint.

Vector simply works. As we say here in New Jersey, "you guys do a
great job". When I lived in the Atlanta metro area, it would be stated
"all y'all are great". No kidding, when you posted the updated hplip
package, I installed it with a couple of mouse clicks, and printing
became a non issue. Now, I can check the various workstations every
day or two, but there is little to do other than delete Win apps that
kids tried to download and install contrary to the user rules of the
center. Even then, Win apps are not really a problem, as they simply
don't work on a Liunix box.

Printing used to be the major daily issue, but now it is just a casual
thing that requires little attention. Once in a while a workstation
will still need Root to clear a logjam of print jobs that shut down
printing on a particular workstation, but that seems to be a CUPS
issue, and not a Vector thing.

Thanks to you and the rest of the Vector team, there is an industrial
strength distro that looks great, and also happens to be easy to use.
That value cannot be overstated. I'm a distro hog in the sense that I
enjoy testing every distro that looks interesting, and I appreciate
more than a few. Then again, Vector has become my "go to" distro over
the past year or so, as it always seems to look, feel, and work "just
right", no matter what hardware I load it on.


Carry on, and keep Vector at the edge. As of tonight, it ranks 13 on
the Distrowatch site. It deserves better, and seems to be on it's way
to the top over the past several Months. If I were a Mark
Shuttleworth, Vector would get my investment, and I'd keep my hands
out of the soup. The product is fine, and I anticipate every new
release. I would like to see broader WIFI support (USB adapters), but
that is a Linux community issue, and not a swipe at Vector.

Anyway, my enthusiasm for the Vector product is as solid as sunrise,
and if you think it will help the project, you are welcome to use my
posts and notes as you see fit.

Voyager

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

> what would you like to keep from /etc ?
> I am just trying to understand better so we can see if it is possible.

I mean it in the way of not needing to reconfigure different settings,
that are located on / partition, in /etc to be more exact. And
reinstall programs after upgrading is so windows-like..

As I see it - on VL installation CD are placed lists of packages,
bundled into different versions of VL - from 1.8, I think. That would
be about 100K of text, not more.
Then, if the "Upgrade" button is pressed, the installer checks, what
version of VL is installed, finds corresponding to this version
package-list and removepkg everything in that list. Then, without
reformatting the partition, new packages, that form new VL version,
are installpkged.
So, all user-installed programs and configurations for them are left
intact. I've tired to rewrite my rc.local script and to reinstall
Opera.
Of course, user should be warned, that some incompatibles may occur,
and if something works unclear, it would be better to reinstall, not
upgrade.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

uel,
 i agree with vagner in a general sense. ideally with one CD we should be
able to do the following.
1. Install to the disk
2. upgrade / update  an existing install
3. use it as a live cd
4. rescue a borked install

out of these currently we are discussing the installer. so 1,2 and 4 apply;
and i think vagner's point refers to number 2 above.

cheers
ram

On 5/5/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Vanger,
> what would you like to keep from /etc ?
> I am just trying to understand better so we can see if it is possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Uel
>
>
> On 5/5/06, Vanger <fa...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/3/06, uel archuletta < ue...@gm...> wrote:
> > >
> > > well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the
> > installer
> > > tools
> > > something you might need before or after install?
> > > or even to rescue a system?
> > >
> >
> > As for me, I would really like an "Upgrade" button, that will preserve
> > /etc as much as it's possible.
> >
> >
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

Vanger,
what would you like to keep from /etc ?
I am just trying to understand better so we can see if it is possible.

Thanks,
Uel

On 5/5/06, Vanger <fa...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On 5/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the installer
> > tools
> > something you might need before or after install?
> > or even to rescue a system?
> >
>
> As for me, I would really like an "Upgrade" button, that will preserve
> /etc as much as it's possible.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
> easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim=
o
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

Ram,
right now we are working on a gui installer that uses pages.
I would be interested in the information about a tabbed dialog as I have no=
t
been able to find any, and I would like to duplicate the gui installer in
case of problems with autoconfiguring X

Thanks,
Uel

On 5/4/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Hi uel,
>  for a while i was going thru the source code of dialog, to see how to ge=
t
> a tabbed dialog.
> so that all of the installer can be put in one dialog, and it is easy to
> move between pages.
> unfortunately though it can be done, i dont have the time for it.
> Instead of showing one page at a time,  we could display all of the info
> gathering part in one place, and then move on to a progress indicator .
> right now the info gathering part is spread across several screens.
> It gives a much simpler mental model to work with.
> also gives the impression that the installer is small where as in reality
> the number of screens can be the same.
> cheers
> ram
>
>
>
> On 5/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the installer
> > tools
> > something you might need before or after install?
> > or even to rescue a system?
> >
> >
>

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

 On 5/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the installer
> tools
> something you might need before or after install?
> or even to rescue a system?
>

As for me, I would really like an "Upgrade" button, that will preserve
/etc as much as it's possible.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

Hi uel,
 for a while i was going thru the source code of dialog, to see how to get =
a
tabbed dialog.
so that all of the installer can be put in one dialog, and it is easy to
move between pages.
unfortunately though it can be done, i dont have the time for it.
Instead of showing one page at a time,  we could display all of the info
gathering part in one place, and then move on to a progress indicator .
right now the info gathering part is spread across several screens.
It gives a much simpler mental model to work with.
also gives the impression that the installer is small where as in reality
the number of screens can be the same.
cheers
ram


On 5/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the installer
> tools
> something you might need before or after install?
> or even to rescue a system?
>
>

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

well anyone else have any ideas they would like to see in the installer
tools
something you might need before or after install?
or even to rescue a system?

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[<nig...@ju...>]

The forum has been down for at least the last half hour.
Error message: Bandwidth quota exceeded. Please try again later or reduc=
e the number of connections.

What would be the best way of reporting trouble?

Roy




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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

I was trying to come up with ideas for things I would like to see in the
expert mode and all I could think of was a way to backup my home directory.
so if its possible maybe we can work that in.
If you can think of anything you would like to see let us know.

Thanks
Uel

On 4/27/06, joh...@gm... <joh...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Last night (US time) in the #vectorlinux-admin chat room, Joe1962 offered
> a
> link to a screenshot of a mockup for a new GUI-based installer to be part
> of
> VL 6. One of the features proposed in that mockup was an "expert mode," i=
n
> which the user could control just about every aspect of the installation.
>
> In starting this thread on ideas for the installer in VL 6, I'd like to
> propose the idea of adding blacklisting capability in expert mode only.
> This
> would be useful for situations where you do not want to use a specific
> adapter, regardless of what the installer finds.
>
> We welcome any and all ideas to improve our installer so that we can kick
> some
> serious arse on Distrowatch and so that we are the distro that people wil=
l
> turn to when they are ready to ditch Winderz. ;-)
>
> Best,
> John
>
>
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[Vectorlinux-devel] Ideas for New Installer

[<joh...@gm...>]

Last night (US time) in the #vectorlinux-admin chat room, Joe1962 offered a 
link to a screenshot of a mockup for a new GUI-based installer to be part of 
VL 6. One of the features proposed in that mockup was an "expert mode," in 
which the user could control just about every aspect of the installation.

In starting this thread on ideas for the installer in VL 6, I'd like to 
propose the idea of adding blacklisting capability in expert mode only. This 
would be useful for situations where you do not want to use a specific 
adapter, regardless of what the installer finds.

We welcome any and all ideas to improve our installer so that we can kick some 
serious arse on Distrowatch and so that we are the distro that people will 
turn to when they are ready to ditch Winderz. ;-)

Best,
John

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

having a seperate home partition has helped me a lot in upgrading from
previous versions of VL .   If we want to encourage users to upgrade to the
newest VL next year and later .. with least effort on their part..
We can make it easy and fairly automatic to upgrade by keeping their home
partition independent. during a new install. Also i think it is much easier
to backup a seperate partition as opposed to a part of a big one. not sure
though

As for the dev option, i really like the idea. so now when people install V=
L
if the see the "setup my machien for vectelopment"  option , it might well
encourage them to read up on vectelopment and may be becoem devs / testers =
/
packager etc...
really good idea:) ;
cheers
ram






On 4/27/06, Tony Brijeski < tb...@gm...> wrote:
>
> The filesystem without home should require no more than about 5 gig and
> the rest should be given to home.  If they choose autopartitioning then t=
hey
> do not need a separate /home partition.  I would leave a separate /home
> partition for users that do their own partitioning and know what they are
> doing.
>
> Hell, I still use only 1 partition for all of / anyway.  Never did like
> the idea of limiting either by having separate partitions.
>
> 512M swap and the rest to / - make it easy since they are also taking the
> easy way out.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 4/27/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm... > wrote:
> >
> > Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the
> > opinion that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home=
 is
> > really not needed.
> >
> > I thought at first we could do something like this
> > if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% =
to
> > /home
> > if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap  and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to
> > /home
> >
> > But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort
> > to code a solution?
> >
> > what do you all think?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Uel
> >
> >
> > On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm... > wrote:
> > >
> > > As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer.
> > > One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to
> > > autopartition.
> > > If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be
> > > appreciated.
> > > We have at least 2 scenarios to work from.
> > > 1 being take over HD and use whole thing
> > > 2 Use free space on HD
> > > We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we
> > > would make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their h=
ands.
> > >
> > > Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to
> > > allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of spac=
e
> > > available, minimum safe size for /, and so on
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Uel Archuletta
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[Oleg <ya...@gm...>]

> Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion
> that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really
> not needed.
[snip]
> what do you all think?
I think that autopartitioning may not add separate /home, I am even not sure 
that fully automatic partitioning is necessary. I'd prefer to see an easy 
dialog for configuring /home: 
- checkbox for separate/common partition
- slider for percent of /home with safe boundaries.
The original values for checkbox and slider may be chosen automatically by 
some tricky algorithm, though.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[Tony B. <tb...@gm...>]

The filesystem without home should require no more than about 5 gig and the
rest should be given to home.  If they choose autopartitioning then they do
not need a separate /home partition.  I would leave a separate /home
partition for users that do their own partitioning and know what they are
doing.

Hell, I still use only 1 partition for all of / anyway.  Never did like the
idea of limiting either by having separate partitions.

512M swap and the rest to / - make it easy since they are also taking the
easy way out.

Regards,
Tony



On 4/27/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion
> that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really
> not needed.
>
> I thought at first we could do something like this
> if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% to
> /home
> if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap  and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to
> /home
>
> But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort to
> code a solution?
>
> what do you all think?
>
> thanks,
>
> Uel
>
>
> On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer.
> > One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to
> > autopartition.
> > If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be
> > appreciated.
> > We have at least 2 scenarios to work from.
> > 1 being take over HD and use whole thing
> > 2 Use free space on HD
> > We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we woul=
d
> > make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their hands.
> >
> > Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to
> > allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of space
> > available, minimum safe size for /, and so on
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Uel Archuletta
> >
> >
>

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[<nig...@ju...>]

I agree that autopartition should not include a separate /home.
It keeps things simple. It avoids a scenario where users run out of spac=
e  on the home partition when there may be plenty of room elsewhere on t=
he disc.

Roy

>Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to =

>the opinion that if the user doesnt want to partition then a =

>seperate /home is really not needed.




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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

And, I've forgot, if there is lesser, then X+200 Mbs - then we'll just
say - "Hey, we don't have enough space to dare autopartition. You'll
have to do it yourself. Minimal for / is $MIN_BASE"

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

I think, alghorythm must be more intelligent.

Let's take the whole free space on hdd as A.
Then, we have to take the size of maximum install (base + all included
packages). Let it be X mbs. But X+1000 is better to use as "minimal"
(uncompressed kernel, some additional programs and so on)
The swap (Y) must be at first twice as RAM is, but no more then 550
Mbs. Why so? Many people have 512Mbs in their computers and they would
like to play with suspend and so on. So we have to have default swap
more, then average amount of memory is.
The home partition (Z) is to take everything, that left. But not less
then 500Mbs. So Z =3D A-X-Y-1000.
If there is enough place - it's cool. But what is not?

And now the exeptions start. I think, there should be three parameters
- "User" (the priority is to get more space on /home), "Developer"
(the priority is to /) and "Balanced" (both). The swap space is
reduced to 256 and we look on a left free space.
Then, if "User" selected, X =3D optimum install (base plus some
pacakges+200), Y=3D256. Z =3D A-X-Y.
If "Dev" selected, Y=3D256, X =3D (base plus all included packages) +
(A-X-Y)/4*3. And Z =3D (A-X-Y)/4.
If "Balanced" selected, Y=3D256, X =3D optimum install (base plus some
pacakges+200)+ (A-X-Y)/2, Z=3D (A-X-Y)/2

[Vectorlinux-devel] Re: AutoPartitioning

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

Well I have been thinking more about this, and I have come to the opinion
that if the user doesnt want to partition then a seperate /home is really
not needed.

I thought at first we could do something like this
if HD <=3D 5gigs then split 512mb swap 80% remaining to / and then 20% to
/home
if HD > 5gigs then 512mb swap  and ??% remaining to / and then ??% to /home

But then I thought Is it worth the problems it may cause or the effort to
code a solution?

what do you all think?

thanks,
Uel

On 4/25/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> As most everyone by now knows We are working on a new installer.
> One of the new features we would like to add is the ability to
> autopartition.
> If anyone has any suggestions or can contribute code it would be
> appreciated.
> We have at least 2 scenarios to work from.
> 1 being take over HD and use whole thing
> 2 Use free space on HD
> We thought if user wants to use free space on windows partition we would
> make them do that themselves and put their data loss in their hands.
>
> Our objective as we see it so far is: how to calculate the space to
> allocate for / /home and swapspace taking into account amount of space
> available, minimum safe size for /, and so on
>
> Thanks,
> Uel Archuletta
>
>

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] "Unstable" repository

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 4/25/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> We do need a pasture directory. Since I'll be doing primary work on
> maintaining the repo, I want to have a place to move the old stuff so
> that it doesn't show up in slapt-get/gslapt, espcially when we've
> updated core packages due to security fixes, etc. We have to avoid
> duplicate versions and/or duplicate packages.
>
> I can also argue for an unsupported directory, in that it's a place
> where we put software that is no longer being supported by its author,
> etc.
>

Yes, now I can see your point.

> While we're talking about packaging standards, we absolutely need to
> use dependencies that are part of the core unless there is a
> compelling reason to use a different version. I speak mainly of gtk,
> though this would also apply to qt, wxwidgets, etc. I don't want to
> see us have multiple versions of gtk2 or qt in the main package tree.
>

I agree with this, though I've been one of the culprits, specially at
the beginning of my packaging days. See my first Gimp (2.2.10) to see
what I mean. However, wxwidgets is a tough case, as many apps "choose"
to work with a certain specific version.

> One additional comment on the "current" directory - we should take the
> same position that Patrick V takes with the slackware-current tree.
> Besides Joe's comment about updated versions of apps and libs being in
> there (i.e., feature enhancements), it should also be seen as the
> place where development work on future versions of VL takes place.
> Therefore, while the stuff in there should work, we should make a
> strong disclaimer that anything in veclinux-current may break your
> box. I envision "current" as a directory that would eventually become
> frozen to a specific release.
>

I can understand this wish, but this means packages for the next
release get built based on the same versions of the base libs, etc. So
if I understand right, this is for point releases only, not for a full
version change (ie. from 6.x to 7.0) which would be based on newer
technology? Or how does Slackware handle such cases?

Regards,
Joe1962

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Some More Positive Feedback about VL

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 4/25/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> Fellow devs,
>
> I received a PM from Voyager13, who is using VL in a work environment,
> that I would like to share because of the positive feedback.
>


JohnB, that's a really cool personal VL experience from Voyager13.
Thanks for sharing.

Regards,
Joe1962

[Vectorlinux-devel] Some More Positive Feedback about VL

[John B <joh...@gm...>]

Fellow devs,

I received a PM from Voyager13, who is using VL in a work environment,
that I would like to share because of the positive feedback.

Best,
John

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
JohnB,

I installed the new hplip package via gslapt on the Vector machines
this morning (busy weekend). I added the wireless network printer to
each station with the system/printer manager menu selection by typing
in the proper IP address, and clicking the mouse a few times. It all
worked like a charm. Now the entire center prints to the HP9860 linked
to the local net via WIFI, and the old local Deskjets are in the
dumpster where they belong....

Total time spent on each workstation from starting Gslapt to printing
a test page on the network printer was five minutes.

Thanks again for building and adding the package. It's a winner! I'm
introducing a Linux newbie to Vector SOHO this evening. He has six
PC's on his local network (all Win2k or XP), and is into music and
digital art in a big way. After playing with the Gimp, Blender,
Rosegarden, K3b, and other toys on my PC's, he decided that he has to
have a Linux box of his own. So, this evening, Bill Gates is being
evicted from yet another PC, and a new Vector fan in is the making.
The nice part is that the new SOHO install will be on a rather high
end AMD box, and not an old beater.

Vector sells itself to Win users. Many people who use the business
center here have told me that they didn't even know what Linux was
before they were "forced" to use it here. They like it, and several
have asked me to help them partition their own PC's or laptops so they
can have it at home.

Keep up the outstanding work.